What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[Lox]

The NamePros traffic records are being set on a daily basis:

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@Rob Monster Wait, hold on! You're responsible for the NamePros traffic # ? (btw. You're crystal clear on what you want to accomplish ... social justice, unity ... Just remember; Journey is everything but the reward. Good luck!

 

[Rob Monster]

@Rob Monster Wait, hold on! You're responsible for the NamePros traffic # ? (btw. You're crystal clear on what you want to accomplish ... social justice, unity ... Just remember; Journey is everything but the reward. Good luck!

Lox -- No not at all. I am just saying that any statement to the effect that people are leaving NP because of inadequate moderation would be not supported by the observable data. I am guessing that over the last year, both unique visits are up sharply but also new page creation and average user dwell time.

 

[JB Lions]

This is the topic asshat!

What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

So he can talk about whatever the heck he wants!

MapleDots asked, he's been answering since March!

You come back after your hiatus like you just earned your moderator in training badge!

Get a life JB, you're boring us!

You tell them Rob! It all boils down to one very basic human emotion from some of your "haters". It's just good old fashioned jealousy.

We believe in free speech.

I disagree with you on this subject

.......name calling.

Thanks to you guys for having Rob's back. You've earned this web graphic. I think we could do better tho. GoDaddy grew in part to the use of $1 and $2 coupons for new customer acquisition. Let's do this.

 

[JB Lions]

Lox -- No not at all. I am just saying that any statement to the effect that people are leaving NP because of inadequate moderation would be not supported by the observable data. I am guessing that over the last year, both unique visits are up sharply but also new page creation and average user dwell time.

Observable data? First, it did come across that way, when it looks like a typical graph. I imagine if we saw a longer graph, year to year, you would see that.

Observable data, like RougeWriter literally saying he was leaving NP because of this thread? Or Kate having issues with this thread and not posting anymore? That kind of stuff? You have those 2 guys I quoted above getting upset because...........I linked to more relevant threads? Seriously.

Here's what Rouge said about it:

So I ask why the what’s wrong with Epik thread is allowed to talk about everything Except an actual review of the Epik site, and instead of moderating a thread that is clearly off the rails, the moderators lecture me about not being critical of namepros and delete my post in the thread.

I’m done with this place, moderators jump all over me, but ignore my question, and Rob and pals can post religious diatribes to their hearts content in a section clearly designated for ‘reviews’.

Double standard if they like you I guess.

Goodbye.

Apparently somebody had his post deleted, I'm guessing somebody that likes to talk about free speech, but then gets posts deleted when they disagree with them.

***And again, it's why I want NP to finally add that add-on where people can block threads/forums.

 

[Rob Monster]

Observable data? First, it did come across that way, when it looks like a typical graph. I imagine if we saw a longer graph, year to year, you would see that.

Observable data, like RougeWriter literally saying he was leaving NP because of this thread? Or Kate having issues with this thread and not posting anymore?

***And again, it's why I want NP to finally add that add-on where people can block threads/forums.

Looks to me like they were inactive already before that:

You probably know their real identities.

I do agree: NP needs a Mute button.

 

[JB Lions]

Looks to me like they were inactive already before that:

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You probably know their real identities.

I do agree: NP needs a Mute button.

This thread started March 19, her last post April 23. April is after March, and this isn't the only thread. And she posted she had issues with this stuff in the other thread.

My question is, why can't you simply post in the correct threads? I know you like conspiracy topics, so do many other people. So why not have it in the Conspiracy thread, what's the harm? You probably would get more discussion about it because it's easy to find.

 

[Mister Funsky]

Thanks to you guys for having Rob's back. You've earned this web graphic. I think we could do better tho. GoDaddy grew in part to the use of $1 and $2 coupons for new customer acquisition.

I love the graphic and already thinking of making it into t-shirts (with a little modification and approval).

As far as having Rob's back, he impressed me a few years ago when I got him on the phone when calling Epik to answer a few questions I had. Unless I am wrong, he does not know who I am...at least he has never asked and I have never thought to tell him.

Yep, daddy grew thanks to their codes...I acquired hundreds of domain names and fully intended on leaving them there until I experienced domain name theft...now they are at Epik. As long as Rob is at the helm and regs and renewal pricing stays at the same levels as they have been (not talking about the deals found here) I and the majority of my names will remain there.

 

[JB Lions]

Yep, daddy grew thanks to their codes...I acquired hundreds of domain names and fully intended on leaving them there until I experienced domain name theft...now they are at Epik. As long as Rob is at the helm and regs and renewal pricing stays at the same levels as they have been (not talking about the deals found here) I and the majority of my names will remain there.

That was something that is actually interesting to me, the post about transfers. It's interesting because my background is in marketing and I'm curious how it will turn out. Something about only come here if you're serious, something like that and not play the transfer game. My belief is people are loyal to their pocketbook, themselves/family before a company. When it comes to renewal time, if there are transfer deals out there that are much better than renewals, some will take them. We literally have people in this forum living in countries where you can live on $200 a month, so every dollar counts. I've never played that game, my renewals are fine for me. At the end of the day, if you're happy with where you have your domains, that's all that matters.

 

[Rob Monster]

This thread started March 19, her last post April 23. April is after March, and this isn't the only thread. And she posted she had issues with this stuff in the other thread.

My question is, why can't you simply post in the correct threads?

A Mod can move this thread out of "Reviews" to some other category, e.g. Break Room. It makes no difference to me. I assume people who do follow it will follow it.

Based on the first 16 pages of the thread, I think that the intention of this thread is evident. That said, Maple and I are good now.

 

[Mister Funsky]

We literally have people in this forum living in countries where you can live on $200 a month, so every dollar counts.

Now you have enlightened me. I never understood some of the posters getting so exited about a single name deal (.99 for example) at some random registrar...now it makes a little more sense.

 

[Rob Monster]

Now you have enlightened me. I never understood some of the posters getting so exited about a single name deal (.99 for example) at some random registrar...now it makes a little more sense.

It is totally true. We pay out a $25 bug bounty and it is a big deal in some places.

 

[oldtimer]

I mean:
"Discuss, ask questions, and share opinions relevant to specific companies, products, services, etc."

Now where does all that off topic stuff being posted fit in there?

You would have been perfectly right if the title of this thread was "What's going on with Epik" without adding "and Rob Monster" at the end.

But OP also included Rob's name in the title, and as such that gives Rob the right to respond to this question as he sees fit.

Take "and Rob Monster" out of the title and then what you are pushing for here as far as keeping the focus of this thread only on Epik will make more sense.


IMO

 

[JB Lions]

Now you have enlightened me. I never understood some of the posters getting so exited about a single name deal (.99 for example) at some random registrar...now it makes a little more sense.

This is the thread that went into it some:

Cdomains said:
Where in the civilized world can you survive on $200 / month ??

Responses:

"There are many countries in the world where things are cheap. I am in Pakistan. $200 is enough. Person who makes $1000 per month is considered rich here."

"In Asia, particularly some South-Asian countries, $200 is like the average monthly wage for a regular job."

"You can survive comfortably in Nigeria"

"For $200 you can also survive in Ukraine... but without comfort... just to survive..."

"In INDIA,
Labor and Factory worker get $100 to $150 per month.
Fresh Office staff only get $100 to $120"

https://www.namepros.com/threads/where-in-the-world-can-you-live-for-xxx.1043550/#post-6374623

So 1 good sale, you could be set for the year. I keep it in mind when I see some of the auction results from India in the Sales thread here. They don't really look impressive but then it doesn't take much.

 

[frank-germany]

You would have been perfectly right if the title of this thread was "What's going on with Epik" without adding "and Rob Monster" at the end.

But OP also included Rob's name in the title, and as such that gives Rob the right to respond to this question as he sees fit.

Take "and Rob Monster" out of the title and then what you are pushing for here as far as keeping the focus of this thread only on Epik will make more sense.


IMO

the "and Rob Monster" part was -as far as I understood it at the time-
a reaction to the unbelievable posts Rob did after the new Zealand massacre
calling it a "hoax" and all the other incredible ideas he connected himself with

and not about "Rob what did you have for breakfast" type of stuff

 

[TCK]

Why haven't you done it already, you could have saved a few lives with a domain like that.

Apparently somebody had his post deleted, I'm guessing somebody that likes to talk about free speech, but then gets posts deleted when they disagree with them.

Okay, so I have started a thread on developing MassShootings.org here (which was prompted by the post by @oldtimer quoted above):

https://www.namepros.com/threads/massshootings-org-development-advice.1152359/#post-7380498

I encourage anyone with an opinion or links to facts, please participate.

We have some promising and productive discussions going on there.

What I found incredible is that certain clandestine individual(s) tried to shut down the thread. They didn't succeed but where able to have the thread moved to the adult section. Which effectively would have killed it anyways. We talked to management who reviewed the content and agreed that it should not be in the adult section.

This certainly stinks of a campaign trying to control some narrative or agenda.

As per @JB Lions quote, I have also had my post removed as well which was directly confirmed by @Rob Monster that it was at his direction.

I don't want to accuse him of trying to shut down the new thread since I have no evidence of such.

My hope is that anyone that reported the thread to the moderators will come out into the open and say why they would do such a thing.

Otherwise, any talk of "free speech" here is just BS.

 

[Rob Monster]

Okay, so I have started a thread on developing MassShootings.org here (which was prompted by the post by @oldtimer quoted above):

https://www.namepros.com/threads/massshootings-org-development-advice.1152359/#post-7380498

I encourage anyone with an opinion or links to facts, please participate.

We have some promising and productive discussions going on there.

What I found incredible is that certain clandestine individual(s) tried to shut down the thread. They didn't succeed but where able to have the thread moved to the adult section. Which effectively would have killed it anyways. We talked to management who reviewed the content and agreed that it should not be in the adult section.

This certainly stinks of a campaign trying to control some narrative or agenda.

As per @JB Lions quote, I have also had my post removed as well which was directly confirmed by @Rob Monster that it was at his direction.

I don't want to accuse him of trying to shut down the new thread since I have no evidence of such.

My hope is that anyone that reported the thread to the moderators will come out into the open and say why they would do such a thing.

Otherwise, any talk of "free speech" here is just BS.

I did not touch your thread. If you want to write dramatic scripts, keep it off Namepros.

Good luck with your mission. Make sure to include a section on False flags.

 

[TCK]

If you want to write dramatic scripts, keep it off Namepros.

What dramatic scripts? What are you talking about?

 

[oldtimer]

All the mass shooters are not mentally sick. That is just an excuse.

Some are psychopaths and criminals who lack empathy for others, but many are what might be considered to be average people who are overtaken by rage and anger as a small conflict that they are involved in gets out of hand and escalates into becoming a catastrophic event, sudden rage and uncontrollable anger are also a kind of sickness which unfortunately can affect many who might otherwise be considered to be good people. In the case of the recent Texas mass shooting the gunman had called 911 earlier that day after encountering some conflict at work which had resulted in him losing his job and so his first reaction was to reach out for some kind of help or intervention. Perhaps we need to have a better system in place that can address people’s grievances and complaints before they escalate to become some kind of disaster. So aside from the psychopaths who are more difficult to deal with, the majority of the gun violence is being done by the average every day people who kill out of rage, revenge, suicide or just by accident and these are the people who have most likely already passed a background check, but then later had encountered a situation that made them lose control of what you might call their good side. We need to expand and improve the help lines so people can be calmed down before they lose control. IMO

 

[Rob Monster]

Some are psychopaths and criminals who lack empathy for others, but many are what might be considered to be average people who are overtaken by rage and anger as a small conflict that they are involved in gets out of hand and escalates into becoming a catastrophic event, sudden rage and uncontrollable anger are also a kind of sickness which unfortunately can affect many who might otherwise be considered to be good people. In the case of the recent Texas mass shooting the gunman had called 911 earlier that day after encountering some conflict at work which had resulted in him losing his job and so his first reaction was to reach out for some kind of help or intervention. Perhaps we need to have a better system in place that can address people’s grievances and complaints before they escalate to become some kind of disaster. So aside from the psychopaths who are more difficult to deal with, the majority of the gun violence is being done by the average every day people who kill out of rage, revenge, suicide or just by accident and these are the people who have most likely already passed a background check, but then later had encountered a situation that made them lose control of what you might call their good side. We need to expand and improve the help lines so people can be calmed down before they lose control. IMO

Agreed here.

I remain certain that we want this content out in public for review to allow law enforcement the opportunity to identity and engage folks who are genuine misanthropes before they retreat to the darker corners of the web with full anonymity.

I also have had a change of heart on the topic of "hate speech". I used to parrot the party line of "free speech is speech that you hate". I have actually changed my position on that topic slightly.

There is actual hate speech. It is speech that is actually empowered and rooted in actual hate. I have seen it first-hand from all sides. There are ANTIFA people who do it regularly and there are also poop-posting idiots who do it.

This morning I made the rare action of banning 2 sites from Epik from a customer whose content was so outrageously inflammatory that their obvious intent was not to educate, edify or engage but entirely to inflame, provoke and annoy certain minorities.

The free speech hardliners might read this and say that I was being a "cuck", however, I think I am beginning to get a more refined sense for where and how to draw the line, and also when to allow a line-crosser to once again use Epik services.

 

[oldtimer]

There is actual hate speech. It is speech that is actually empowered and rooted in actual hate. I have seen it first-hand from all sides.

When all sides hate you that means you are saying or doing something right

I also have had a change of heart on the topic of "hate speech". I used to parrot the party line of "free speech is speech that you hate". I have actually changed my position on that topic slightly.

Although people should be free to express themselves, but when they want to intentionally inflict harm or promote violence the society has the right to not give them a loudspeaker or a platform. IMO

 

[Rob Monster]

G. Edward Griffin is still alive and well at age 87. He was fearlessly connecting dots long before I was born. Here is a gem:

40 seconds long -- and a must watch.

 

[frank-germany]

G. Edward Griffin is still alive and well at age 87. He was fearlessly connecting dots long before I was born. Here is a gem:

40 seconds long -- and a must watch.

same is true for any label whatever

the fact that you quote that
in order to make your right-wing neighborhood appear harmless

well
that won't succeed

 

[frank-germany]

When all sides hate you that means you are saying or doing something right

what a nonsense

 

[Rob Monster]

same is true for any label whatever

the fact that you quote that
in order to make your right-wing neighborhood appear harmless

well
that won't succeed

First of all, I am not "right wing".

At best you could possibly call me a Libertarian Christian Conservative truth-seeker who loves everyone and judges nobody.

The point the video makes is legitimate -- there was a plan to marginalize and ostracize anyone who did not go along with a neo-Marxist game plan.

It is ironic that this content is still on YouTube. Fortunately I made a backup:

https://video.watchmask.com/NIylzZCv_ww/

 

[oldtimer]

what a nonsense

This was with the assumption that you are not doing anything wrong, but people just hate you because your point of view is against their interest and agenda. I thought this was already understood here.

@frank-germany , can you tell us what is your World View. What is considered to be the right World according to Frank.


Here is my World View:

I believe that all our existing ideologies, doctrines, and philosophies have failed us both as far as humanity and the environment. As we see all social and environmental norms start to collapse around us our only chance to survive is for humanity as a whole to ascended to a higher level of existence that is guided by logic and compassion and certain Universal rights and values. If we continue to let hate, greed, lust, jealousy, promiscuity, delinquency, animosity and the many of the other negative characteristics that have been controlling our lives to prevail and continue then we will miss this last window of opportunity to save ourselves. IMO