.com drop order

[B Klug]

This site says "This unique feature takes your list of COM/NET domains and arranges them into their exact drop order. DesktopCatcher will take your domains and check them to see which one will drop first, second..etc. Once in order, this thread will put all of its focus on just one domain at a time. So, rather than cycling through your entire list of domains, it only tries to register the first domain which is suppose to drop. Once that domain has dropped and been registered (by you or someone else), it will then move onto the second domain, and so on"

How does one know the order a .com drops? (I'm not talking about the day, I'm talking about the time).

I know .coms drop between 11am and noon or so (pacific time) each day, but the above linked site claims their software knows what order domains drop in.

That would be helpful to not waste API calls and focus on the proper domain in question.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

At least at 10-12 UTC Dyna API is not down... it works...
But some delays are possible...

 

[B Klug]

I am trying to figure the use of these timing. Are you trying to catch domain drops manually?

I'm trying to use API calls as efficiently as possible. Different registrars have different rules about API usage. I know of at least one, for example, that has a daily limit. So you'd want to focus usage of them, as an analogy: if you only had a certain number of bullets, you'd probably want to wait to shoot until you can actually see the enemy.

There is also no point in hammering an API if you know it will be twenty minutes before the domain you want can be registered. The poor registrars get overloaded with requests during the drop and it would be nice to not make that unnecessarily worse.

The main discovery here, though, was the order of the drop. Before I knew what order they dropped, I was rotating through each domain, A, B, C, A, B, C, .... But now I can keep trying A, A, A, A ..., then once A is registered (by me or someone else) move on to B, B, B, B, ..., etc.

I've actually been having a lot of success making use of this information. Obviously, I still don't have a great chance to get LLLL.com and other high value names (as Dropcatch owns over a thousand registrars) but I am catching medium value names with surprising success.

I am new to domaining, but have been programming Internet apps for over 20 years. I am considering creating a service based on my experience here, and possibly offering it free as a beta test to those on this forum. I have an idea for a very unique proposition.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

LLLL.com is impossible to catch via API since 2010 or so...
Forget...

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Via API you can get only LLL.biz and, probably, LLL.info

Regarding LLL.net/.org - also forget...

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I am catching medium value names with surprising success.

This is your own appraisal?

I bet, you will drop most of them again... after 1 year.

 

[davidc1]

This is your own appraisal?

I bet, you will drop most of them again... after 1 year.

I sell everyday domains that I catch by API

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Yes, if the domain has SEO parameters - it can be sold quickly...
I'm not surprised... One of my friends did such activity over decade...

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

And if SEO parameters are really high - API doesn't help...
Such domains almost always are backordered.

 

[davidc1]

Yes, if the domain has SEO parameters - it can be sold quickly...
I'm not surprised... One of my friends did such activity over decade...

I dont speak about seo domains.
I sold thousands in the past, but for years now i stopped.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

Thousands to endusers?
For what average price?

 

[davidc1]

Thousands to endusers?
For what average price?

yes endusers only, a few years ago I sold up to 500 seo domains per month, i dont know the average price, min/max were about 50/1000usd

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

I'm not sure if Undeveloped sells 500 domains monthly...
OK, thanks for the additional info.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

The only one question remains - why you stopped?

 

[davidc1]

The only one question remains - why you stopped?

I stopped because i sold less and less domains.
less margin, seo criterias changed, more unsold domains, more competitors for selling, more competitors for catching, many services opened to help finding easily domains...

 

[NameAgency]

How does one know the order a .com drops? (I'm not talking about the day, I'm talking about the time).

Dropping.com offers downloadable ordered drop lists in .csv. and also a tool called "Drop estimator" to check out single domains (Affiliate link to Dropping.com in my signature).

According to them: "Please keep in mind that the estimated drop time may vary daily by +/- 30 seconds and we cannot guarantee accuracy"

 

[frank-germany]

Dropping.com offers downloadable ordered drop lists in .csv. and also a tool called "Drop estimator" to check out single domains (Affiliate link to Dropping.com in my signature).

According to them: "Please keep in mind that the estimated drop time may vary daily by +/- 30 seconds and we cannot guarantee accuracy"

those lists are complete BS

 

[NameAgency]

those lists are complete BS

I haven't tested the accuracy. It would be great to know the level of inaccuracy. Anyone tested it?

 

[frank-germany]

I haven't tested the accuracy. It would be great to know the level of inaccuracy. Anyone tested it?

level of inaccuracy?

its bogus