What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[TCK]

There is no earthly authority on the matter. However, there are truthseekers. Here is one by Mark Sargent that you might find helpful:

Backed up here.

What non-earthly authority? You can’t mean the Bible, because it doesn’t support that the earth is flat. Actually the very opposite.

 

[Rob Monster]

You do mean the Bible is though, right? Because you kinda said that before so double checking.

Well, when it comes to the Bible, I used to be a "King James Only" guy. However, I have concluded that the KJV is just a good translation but that there are many other useful sources.

For example, to understand the history of mankind and the formation of the earth, the non-Canonical books of Enoch and Jasher fill some important blanks.

To understand the context of the events around Jesus' death, the Bible is light on some detail. However, secular historians like Josephus are a popular go-to along with Polycarp, Tertullian, etc.

So, truth be told, I do have confidence that God preserved his Word, as evidenced by the Dead Sea Scrolls discovery at Qumran in 1946. However, I also believe that secret societies have hid much for millennia.

The funny thing about secret societies is that their members die off, and their next of kin often don't know what to with the libraries of the deceased.

So while just about any Bible translation is sufficient to understand the Gospel, to understand the history of the world, it is often not sufficient even though the Bible has never been proven wrong on anything.

For example, Job is the oldest book of the Bible. It gives us some gems, e.g. Pleiades, Mazzaroth (a.k.a. the Zodiac), Orion's belt, Ursa Major and Minor. See "The Witness of the Stars" by Bullinger.

 

[NameLlama]

the Bible has never been proven wrong on anything.

Noah's Ark story

 

[TCK]

Well, when it comes to the Bible, I used to be a "King James Only" guy. However, I have concluded that the KJV is just a good translation but that there are many other useful sources.

For example, to understand the history of mankind and the formation of the earth, the non-Canonical books of Enoch and Jasher fill some important blanks.

To understand the context of the events around Jesus' death, the Bible is light on some detail. However, secular historians like Josephus are a popular go-to along with Polycarp, Tertullian, etc.

So, truth be told, I do have confidence that God preserved his Word, as evidenced by the Dead Sea Scrolls discovery at Qumran in 1946. However, I also believe that secret societies have hid much for millennia.

The funny thing about secret societies is that their members die off, and their next of kin often don't know what to with the libraries of the deceased.

So while just about any Bible translation is sufficient to understand the Gospel, to understand the history of the world, it is often not sufficient even though the Bible has never been proven wrong on anything.

For example, Job is the oldest book of the Bible. It gives us some gems, e.g. Pleiades, Mazzaroth (a.k.a. the Zodiac), Orion's belt, Ursa Major and Minor. See "The Witness of the Stars" by Bullinger.

You use a lot of words just like the videos you post use a lot of words. But you have not shown any evidence anywhere to back up your claims.

But the videos make good use of music, I’ll give you that.

Job speaks of the earth being suspended upon nothing and Isaiah says the earth is a circle, a sphere, a globe.

 

[Jv1999]

Well, when it comes to the Bible, I used to be a "King James Only" guy. However, I have concluded that the KJV is just a good translation but that there are many other useful sources.

For example, to understand the history of mankind and the formation of the earth, the non-Canonical books of Enoch and Jasher fill some important blanks.

To understand the context of the events around Jesus' death, the Bible is light on some detail. However, secular historians like Josephus are a popular go-to along with Polycarp, Tertullian, etc.

So, truth be told, I do have confidence that God preserved his Word, as evidenced by the Dead Sea Scrolls discovery at Qumran in 1946. However, I also believe that secret societies have hid much for millennia.

The funny thing about secret societies is that their members die off, and their next of kin often don't know what to with the libraries of the deceased.

So while just about any Bible translation is sufficient to understand the Gospel, to understand the history of the world, it is often not sufficient even though the Bible has never been proven wrong on anything.

For example, Job is the oldest book of the Bible. It gives us some gems, e.g. Pleiades, Mazzaroth (a.k.a. the Zodiac), Orion's belt, Ursa Major and Minor. See "The Witness of the Stars" by Bullinger.

Rob u surprise me. I thought u were a strict, bible belt person. Then now u say you read banned bible books, like the gospel of Magdalene.

And then you go new age and mention how somehow the Pleiades are biblical

 

[Tia Wood]

Rob, what are your thoughts on transgender people? And do you believe there are more than two genders?

 

[frank-germany]

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[frank-germany]

Well, when it comes to the Bible, I used to be a "King James Only" guy. However, I have concluded that the KJV is just a good translation but that there are many other useful sources.

For example, to understand the history of mankind and the formation of the earth, the non-Canonical books of Enoch and Jasher fill some important blanks.

To understand the context of the events around Jesus' death, the Bible is light on some detail. However, secular historians like Josephus are a popular go-to along with Polycarp, Tertullian, etc.

So, truth be told, I do have confidence that God preserved his Word, as evidenced by the Dead Sea Scrolls discovery at Qumran in 1946. However, I also believe that secret societies have hid much for millennia.

The funny thing about secret societies is that their members die off, and their next of kin often don't know what to with the libraries of the deceased.

So while just about any Bible translation is sufficient to understand the Gospel, to understand the history of the world, it is often not sufficient even though the Bible has never been proven wrong on anything.

For example, Job is the oldest book of the Bible. It gives us some gems, e.g. Pleiades, Mazzaroth (a.k.a. the Zodiac), Orion's belt, Ursa Major and Minor. See "The Witness of the Stars" by Bullinger.

as far as I know the bible was not started to be writing
before about 30 years after jesus death

hopefully, these people at that time had a better memory
then people use to have at modern times

 

[frank-germany]

As for whether the earth was flat, if you determined that in fact it was, and that the Bible said it was flat and non-moving, and the center of creation, would it change your world view?
let God be true, but every man a liar - Romans 3:4

of course, would that change my world view
as I could no longer view a globe
now my view would be a flat earth

that's what I call a change


it certainly would change my world view too,
if I suddenly understand that the sun shines green

and it would change my moon view
if I suddenly understand
it's real size is the size of an apple

but I guess that won't happen very soon

 

[frank-germany]

Yes, that's the point. Fake news. Free speech exposes fake news. If people did not fall for fake news they would be less likely to send their sons into battle to participate in human sacrifices powered by fake news.

as far as I understand history,
and as far as I remember,
at that time when the "weapons of mass destruction"
were claimed as a fact
and used for cause of war

there was a lot of "free speech" existing
as the internet was much less censored than today

so how did that "free speech" help to avoid those
false claims????
and the war?

 

[frank-germany]

There is no earthly authority on the matter. However, there are truthseekers. Here is one by Mark Sargent that you might find helpful:

Backed up here.

so if that is true
- world is flat -
- science is lying to us -

that would need a lot of energy and many people supporting that
and a lot of fake news and
media streaming lies.
(there was no media when that idea was formed)

now "search for the money"
what would be the benefit of all these "lies"

why is it important to tell the people of the world that the earth is a globe?
who benefits?
and is that guy/institution mighty enough to produce such a story?

and wouldn't some let's say Chinese
rocket scientist
or Indian scientist
eventually, discover that too
and wouldn't they eventually not feel any obligation
to protect that "miss-information" ????
and not feel the need to follow a "powerfull authority of missinformation" ?

why do chinese intent to land on the moon?

why are indian having a space program?


are they really part of that huge miss information?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I don't wish to engage anyone here in religious debate other than to say, I'm a risk vs. reward type of guy. Thus, I subscribe to the philosophy "Fake it till you make it". I use to think that was a silly trite expression, but I've since learned, it works

Life is Good, and my belief is that can even be better forever

 

[Rob Monster]

Rob u surprise me. I thought u were a strict, bible belt person. Then now u say you read banned bible books, like the gospel of Magdalene.

And then you go new age and mention how somehow the Pleiades are biblical

I have never read the Gospel of Magdalene. It is almost certainly another PsyOp from Rome designed to bring people back to Rome:

https://www.gotquestions.org/gospel-of-Mary-Magdalene.html

Long story short, if it bows to the Pope, I would advise to run the other way.

The Pleiades is a constellation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades . Perhaps you are thinking of Pleiadians. Well, there is no such thing. Aliens are demons. There are no "aliens". Demons are real but "aliens" are not despite what SciFi has been pounding into your head. If you run into an "alien", tell him to depart in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. It also works for people with Sleep Paralysis:

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[Rob Monster]

as far as I know the bible was not started to be writing
before about 30 years after jesus death

I think you are referring to the New Testament which were written starting around 66 AD before the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD and continuing after until John wraps it up on Patmos around 90 AD while in exile.

On the other hand, the Torah or Pentateuch was written by Moses during the time in desert, e.g. between 1440 and 1400 BC.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Genesis.html

Job was likely started before that, likely by Job himself. There is debate as to who finished it. Some say it was Moses.

FYI, you can buy these 23-30 foot wall charts that map out the timeline since Adam and Eve about 6000 years ago. Example:

If you were wondering about why there is all this so-and-so begat so-and-so in the Old Testament, now you know.

FYI, here is my preferred online Bible: https://www.blueletterbible.org/ . It lets you look at the original paleo-Hebrew and Greek text so that you can see if you agree with the translation.

 

[frank-germany]

I think you are referring to the New Testament which were written starting around 66 AD before the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD and continuing after until John wraps it up on Patmos around 90 AD while in exile.

On the other hand, the Torah or Pentateuch was written by Moses during the time in desert, e.g. between 1440 and 1400 BC.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Genesis.html

Job was likely started before that, likely by Job himself. There is debate as to who finished it. Some say it was Moses.

FYI, you can buy these 23-30 foot wall charts that map out the timeline since Adam and Eve about 6000 years ago. Example:

If you were wondering about why there is all this so-and-so begat so-and-so in the Old Testament, now you know.

FYI, here is my preferred online Bible: https://www.blueletterbible.org/ . It lets you look at the original paleo-Hebrew and Greek text so that you can see if you agree with the translation.

Adams Chart
it looks very beautifully


but as we all know Adam and Eve didn't happen 6000 years ago but 9000

 

[Rob Monster]

You use a lot of words just like the videos you post use a lot of words. But you have not shown any evidence anywhere to back up your claims.

But the videos make good use of music, I’ll give you that.

Job speaks of the earth being suspended upon nothing and Isaiah says the earth is a circle, a sphere, a globe.

The Bible does not actually describe a globe. You can do a verse study on the topic here.

As for music, you might enjoy this one:

 

[TCK]

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[TCK]

There is no earthly authority on the matter. However, there are truthseekers. Here is one by Mark Sargent that you might find helpful:

Backed up here.

This has been debunked here, with actual logic and facts:

The Bible does not actually describe a globe. You can do a verse study on the topic here.

As for music, you might enjoy this one:

http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=27&ch=40&l=22-#x

Most translations translate the original Hebrew word Chug as "circle", which does not refer to any flat object.

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2329.htm

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/circle

Nowhere does the bible describe the earth as a flat circle. But a three dimensional circle, where it is a circle from every direction you look at it from above.

 

[Rob Monster]

Noah's Ark story

No, the Biblical flood happened. Even network television, ABC, covered the archaeological discovery:

It is my thesis that glaciers are in fact giant frozen remnants from the flood. These glaciers produced a steady flow of potable water for thousands of years as they melt off in summers, shrinking by design.

Also, the real Mount Sinai is Jebel el Lawz in Saudi Arabia. There are many online references but here is a recreation of the approximate path taken to get there:

The archaeological record is clear. That area is now guarded by the army of the KSA.

 

[frank-germany]

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[NameLlama]

No, the Biblical flood happened. Even network television, ABC, covered the archaeological discovery:

It is my thesis that glaciers are in fact giant frozen remnants from the flood. These glaciers produced a steady flow of potable water for thousands of years as they melt off in summers, shrinking by design.

Also, the real Mount Sinai is Jebel el Lawz in Saudi Arabia. There are many online references but here is a recreation of the approximate path taken to get there:

The archaeological record is clear. That area is now guarded by the army of the KSA.

There are too many obvious problems with it It's really stupid

When another notoriously large ship (that was purportedly only a fraction of the Ark's size), the Great Michael, was built in 1511, it was said to have taken "all the woods of Fife" (a county in Scotland famous for its shipbuilding), as well as having to import wood from France, other areas in the Baltic sea, and cargo ships scrapped for use in its construction. The Wyoming, the largest wooden ship ever built, used 3100 tons wood and 300 tons metal. A ship of Noah's size would have required tens of thousands of trees to be cut for its construction.

The Wyoming: The longest wooden ship ever built, the six-masted New England gaff schooner Wyoming, had a "total length" of 137 metres (449 ft)

Noah's Ark.. 300 cubits long.. Maybe 450 feet..

 

[frank-germany]

@Rob Monster

ok

I have to admit
you got me.

this whole thread now is talking about pure BS


you and your friend @Slanted have performed extremely well
in deceiving and misguiding people
in posting utter nonsense

and I didn't understand it earlier.
you got me.

nobody by now remembers the stuff that initiated the original interest in your persona

in every post you add a sig that promotes your e **k.com company
you add backlink after backlink that way

you are by far not as stupid as I thought

congrats.

I don't want to support you no more
I' m off

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I think you are referring to the New Testament which were written starting around 66 AD before the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD and continuing after until John wraps it up on Patmos around 90 AD while in exile.

On the other hand, the Torah or Pentateuch was written by Moses during the time in desert, e.g. between 1440 and 1400 BC.


Job was likely started before that, likely by Job himself. There is debate as to who finished it. Some say it was Moses.

FYI, you can buy these 23-30 foot wall charts that map out the timeline since Adam and Eve about 6000 years ago. Example:



If you were wondering about why there is all this so-and-so begat so-and-so in the Old Testament, now you know.

FYI, here is my preferred online Bible: It lets you look at the original paleo-Hebrew and Greek text so that you can see if you agree with the translation.

Don't you need an online MonsterFamily.Bible that will last forever? I may have one to sell you

 

[Rob Monster]

The Wyoming: The longest wooden ship ever built, the six-masted New England gaff schooner Wyoming, had a "total length" of 137 metres (449 ft)

Noah's Ark.. 300 cubits long.. Maybe 450 feet..

In case you missed it, there are many modern to-scale replicas, including this one that floats:

So, yes, it can be done, and has been done.

On the other hand, modern masons struggle to imagine how to build the Egyptian pyramids with construction tolerances that seem unachievable in modern times with stones weighing as much as 80 tons each.

There is a fascinating theory about that topic -- hydraulics:

It is entirely possible that humanity has gotten more stupid. Indeed, I think it is likely.

 

[NameLlama]

Right.. A small number of people got allll that wood and built that giant thing themselves

And they got alllll the species on board together and the animals and plants today are descended from them

How dumb do you have to be to accept that