strategy Hand Reg Stratagies

[ThatNameGuy]

I've been hand registering domains for about a year now, and like anything else in life, practice makes for improvement. Recently I've been accumulating domains for the pot industry to include names that represent marijuana, cannabis, hemp, weed, etc. While most of the real good names are gone, one of my strategies is to add high value word to a domain you might like to own. For example, the names Cannabiz.com and HempOil.com were sold, but I was able to add the high value word "express" to each of these names in order to purchase them. So I'm the new prowd owner of CannabizExpress.com and HempOilExpress.com.

This is an example of just one of my strategies, and I'm willing to share more if there's interest. Anyone else have a strategy?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Thanks John....you DaDude. I've been addicted for less than a year, but I took to domaining like a fish takes to water. The problem with my critics who target my every move is they want to limit me to a small fish bowl, and I refuse to be trapped

 

[convertcontent]

I've been hand registering domains for about a year now, and like anything else in life, practice makes for improvement. Recently I've been accumulating domains for the pot industry to include names that represent marijuana, cannabis, hemp, weed, etc. While most of the real good names are gone, one of my strategies is to add high value word to a domain you might like to own. For example, the names Cannabiz.com and HempOil.com were sold, but I was able to add the high value word "express" to each of these names in order to purchase them. So I'm the new prowd owner of CannabizExpress.com and HempOilExpress.com.

This is an example of just one of my strategies, and I'm willing to share more if there's interest. Anyone else have a strategy?

I didn't read through the 8 pages of replies, and I'm sure someone has said the same thing but the reality is that registering domains isn't the hard part. Registering domains that people actually buy from you is the only thing that matters.

Have you made more than you've spent or maybe a better thing to ask is if the domains sell regularly? Don't take it personally, and I could be wrong, but I can't picture anyone paying money for the types of examples you've provided. I also buy cannabis related domains and got started because I used to own a few brick and mortar retail medical dispensaries so I'm an end user but also someone like yourself that buys cannabis domains to list on marketplaces like Sedo etc.

I'm curious to know if you've experienced success with those types of domains because on one hand, I think those names aren't very good but on the other hand, I don't think you would be posting a "strategy" post on this forum unless you were successful with the approach. I guess I should read all the pages of replies to find out...

 

[convertcontent]

No one Brad? You might want to ask my wife and equity partners🏌
Btw, ever seen the symbol "Rx" Brad? Do you know what it stands for? While I already owned about a dozen healthcare domains using the symbol Rx, when I realized the growing medical use for marijuana/cannabis/hemp etc., I was able to hand Reg several short domains using Rx for this fast budding industry. As an FYI, each of the domains I was able to hand Reg for $8 appraises for $1,100 to $1,700. I have other strategies that have proven to discover/uncover good domains, but they're not in your wheelhouse.

I don't think appraisals really mean too much for domains at this type of quality. Anyone can go on GoDaddy auctions, sort by appraisal, then just register all the domains at the top that are appraised really high..usually in the 2-5k appraisal range...all unwanted domains being dropped and not sold or even bid on.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I didn't read through the 8 pages of replies, and I'm sure someone has said the same thing but the reality is that registering domains isn't the hard part. Registering domains that people actually buy from you is the only thing that matters.

Have you made more than you've spent or maybe a better thing to ask is if the domains sell regularly? Don't take it personally, and I could be wrong, but I can't picture anyone paying money for the types of examples you've provided. I also buy cannabis related domains and got started because I used to own a few brick and mortar retail medical dispensaries so I'm an end user but also someone like yourself that buys cannabis domains to list on marketplaces like Sedo etc.

I'm curious to know if you've experienced success with those types of domains because on one hand, I think those names aren't very good but on the other hand, I don't think you would be posting a "strategy" post on this forum unless you were successful with the approach. I guess I should read all the pages of replies to find out...[/QUOT

I'm not here to answer questions about my success domaining, but I did start this thread to share strategies about how I hand register domains, and how others hand register their domains. If that's what you'e here to learn and discuss, I'd recommend you look back through this thread and read what members like Metbob, NameProAddict aka .X, me and a few others have said about hand reg strategies. If that's not what you're interested in learning about, you'll soon learn that your posts will be considered "off topic" by management.
You have a great day now, and I wish you all the best in your domain endeavors

 

[convertcontent]

I'm not here to answer questions about my success domaining, but I did start this thread to share strategies about how I hand register domains, and how others hand register their domains. If that's what you'e here to learn and discuss, I'd recommend you look back through this thread and read what members like Metbob, NameProAddict aka .X, me and a few others have said about hand reg strategies. If that's not what you're interested in learning about, you'll soon learn that your posts will be considered "off topic" by management.
You have a great day now, and I wish you all the best in your domain endeavors

Thanks for the advice.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Covering Bases and a Niche within a Niche

When registering a domain you like and believe has potential for resale or development, I think it's important to register similar names or extensions that may be close in order to protect your initial investment. An example of this (supported by an old time domainer from down under) is registering a nTLD like Perfect.Domains, and then registering PerfectDomains(.)com. Recently I hand registered CBDMelon(.)com that spawned domains like MelonHIgh, CannaMelon, MelonSpirits etc. An interesting side note here is when I tried CannaSpirits it was taken and for sale at GD for 10K...while I'm keenly aware that CannaSpirits is a better domain than MelonSpirits, it confirms to me that I'm more likely than not on the right track My initial purchase of CBDMellon has spawned the purchase seven more "melon" domains, and it's also led me to start a new mini portfolio of "Sushi" domains like 420Sushi, a decent name for Sushi Restaruant/Bar

All together I have less than $100 invested in my mini niche portfolio of melon domains, but it provides both protection and choice when it comes to selling/marketing domains to a potential "end user". It also provides the seller the option to offer an end user a choice like; "Mr. End User, would you like fries with your burger or are are you happy with your burger the way it is?" In my 50 years of selling everything from "soup to nuts" providing an either/or choice is one of the best closing techniques ever created.

Thanks for sharing everyone....have a great weekend

 

[Joe N]

Covering Bases and a Niche within a Niche

When registering a domain you like and believe has potential for resale or development, I think it's important to register similar names or extensions that may be close in order to protect your initial investment. An example of this (supported by an old time domainer from down under) is registering a nTLD like Perfect.Domains, and then registering PerfectDomains(.)com. Recently I hand registered CBDMelon(.)com that spawned domains like MelonHIgh, CannaMelon, MelonSpirits etc. An interesting side note here is when I tried CannaSpirits it was taken and for sale at GD for 10K...while I'm keenly aware that CannaSpirits is a better domain than MelonSpirits, it confirms to me that I'm more likely than not on the right track My initial purchase of CBDMellon has spawned the purchase seven more "melon" domains, and it's also led me to start a new mini portfolio of "Sushi" domains like 420Sushi, a decent name for Sushi Restaruant/Bar

All together I have less than $100 invested in my mini niche portfolio of melon domains, but it provides both protection and choice when it comes to selling/marketing domains to a potential "end user". It also provides the seller the option to offer an end user a choice like; "Mr. End User, would you like fries with your burger or are are you happy with your burger the way it is?" In my 50 years of selling everything from "soup to nuts" providing an either/or choice is one of the best closing techniques ever created.

Thanks for sharing everyone....have a great weekend

Interesting, Rich. Thanks

Could you tell us a bit more about the names/niche? When I search the terms, the only info that comes up seems to be about a specific strain of cannabis called melon gum.

A couple follow-up questions:

Who are some specific buyers you intend to market the names to?

What motivation will they have for wanting one or more of the names?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Interesting, Rich. Thanks

Could you tell us a bit more about the names/niche? When I search the terms, the only info that comes up seems to be about a specific strain of cannabis called melon gum.

A couple follow-up questions:

Who are some specific buyers you intend to market the names to?

What motivation will they have for wanting one or more of the names?

First I view the Marijuana/Cannabis/CBD/Hemp/Weed/Leaf etc. a domain "niche" itself, similar to "financial services", "healthcare", "sports and entertainment". So carving out melon domains, and regging domains like CBDMelons, 420Melons, CannaMelon etc. makes them a Niche within a Niche......at least that's what I call it. My "Incredible" portfolio is also a niche in that it only consists of domains whose first word is "Incredible" like IncredibleFlorida and IncredibleMilk....darn, just left our conversation for a second to see if IncredibleSushi was available to reg, but it's gone and is for sale at GD for $2,400. I'd have bought it to go with the 420Sushi domain I mentioned earlier because of the popularity of Sushi, if it were available

Here's an example of someone I might approach to work with me in some capacity with my melon niche domains; http://highproofspirit.com/infuse/ This is just one example, but there are literally hundreds of potential buyers I could approach considering all the alcohol and even non alcohol beverage distributors in the world. You ask what the motivation might be for buying one or more of the names? Joe...this isn't a case where one size fits all, but it does require some experience and expertise to master what I consider to be a complex sale. Over the years I've had to make complex and strategic sales in order to compete successfully. Just learning who and how decisions are made at any organization is a start. Then learning about an organizations goals, wishes, desires and even budget may be the next step. Then asking for and closing the deal is the last step.

Joe...if no one were selling domains and making deals every day, I'd say my strategy probably wouldn't work. However they are, and I have enough confidence in my background, my experience and my past success in business to sell domains my way. Finally, this isn't to say I won't be listing my domains with the likes of Sedo and Go Daddy, but most of the people I'll be approaching have never even heard of Sedo. I hope this helps.

Oct172018com........Oh Canada!

 

[Elad n]

First I view the Marijuana/Cannabis/CBD/Hemp/Weed/Leaf etc. a domain "niche" itself, similar to "financial services", "healthcare", "sports and entertainment". So carving out melon domains, and regging domains like CBDMelons, 420Melons, CannaMelon etc. makes them a Niche within a Niche......at least that's what I call it. My "Incredible" portfolio is also a niche in that it only consists of domains whose first word is "Incredible" like IncredibleFlorida and IncredibleMilk....darn, just left our conversation for a second to see if IncredibleSushi was available to reg, but it's gone and is for sale at GD for $2,400. I'd have bought it to go with the 420Sushi domain I mentioned earlier because of the popularity of Sushi, if it were available

Here's an example of someone I might approach to work with me in some capacity with my melon niche domains; http://highproofspirit.com/infuse/ This is just one example, but there are literally hundreds of potential buyers I could approach considering all the alcohol and even non alcohol beverage distributors in the world. You ask what the motivation might be for buying one or more of the names? Joe...this isn't a case where one size fits all, but it does require some experience and expertise to master what I consider to be a complex sale. Over the years I've had to make complex and strategic sales in order to compete successfully. Just learning who and how decisions are made at any organization is a start. Then learning about an organizations goals, wishes, desires and even budget may be the next step. Then asking for and closing the deal is the last step.

Joe...if no one were selling domains and making deals every day, I'd say my strategy probably wouldn't work. However they are, and I have enough confidence in my background, my experience and my past success in business to sell domains my way. Finally, this isn't to say I won't be listing my domains with the likes of Sedo and Go Daddy, but most of the people I'll be approaching have never even heard of Sedo. I hope this helps.

Oct172018com........Oh Canada!

@Avtar629 might be something you want to tell the guy ?

 

[convertcontent]

First I view the Marijuana/Cannabis/CBD/Hemp/Weed/Leaf etc. a domain "niche" itself, similar to "financial services", "healthcare", "sports and entertainment". So carving out melon domains, and regging domains like CBDMelons, 420Melons, CannaMelon etc. makes them a Niche within a Niche......at least that's what I call it. My "Incredible" portfolio is also a niche in that it only consists of domains whose first word is "Incredible" like IncredibleFlorida and IncredibleMilk....darn, just left our conversation for a second to see if IncredibleSushi was available to reg, but it's gone and is for sale at GD for $2,400. I'd have bought it to go with the 420Sushi domain I mentioned earlier because of the popularity of Sushi, if it were available

Here's an example of someone I might approach to work with me in some capacity with my melon niche domains; http://highproofspirit.com/infuse/ This is just one example, but there are literally hundreds of potential buyers I could approach considering all the alcohol and even non alcohol beverage distributors in the world. You ask what the motivation might be for buying one or more of the names? Joe...this isn't a case where one size fits all, but it does require some experience and expertise to master what I consider to be a complex sale. Over the years I've had to make complex and strategic sales in order to compete successfully. Just learning who and how decisions are made at any organization is a start. Then learning about an organizations goals, wishes, desires and even budget may be the next step. Then asking for and closing the deal is the last step.

Joe...if no one were selling domains and making deals every day, I'd say my strategy probably wouldn't work. However they are, and I have enough confidence in my background, my experience and my past success in business to sell domains my way. Finally, this isn't to say I won't be listing my domains with the likes of Sedo and Go Daddy, but most of the people I'll be approaching have never even heard of Sedo. I hope this helps.

Oct172018com........Oh Canada!

Interesting. Can you explain the melon strategy in a another way? I'm trying to understand how I can apply the strategy to other hand registerable domains. I've read it multiple times but it's still not clear to me how cannabis made the connection to the word melon.

What is the strategy here? How is the word melon connected to the word cannabis? Is this strategy driven by the growth in number of edibles companies or something? That makes sense to me.
But why did you select the word melon?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Interesting. Can you explain the melon strategy in a another way? I'm trying to understand how I can apply the strategy to other hand registerable domains. I've read it multiple times but it's still not clear to me how cannabis made the connection to the word melon.

What is the strategy here? How is the word melon connected to the word cannabis? Is this strategy driven by the growth in number of edibles companies or something? That makes sense to me.
But why did you select the word melon?

While there are dozens of different kinds of melons, virtually everyone in the world eats melon. For a domain, it's short, it's easy to remember and melons can be infused with just about anything. Here are a few of hundreds of sites about infusing melons, some even with cannabis/CBD.

https://iloveincredibles.com/
https://www.ahealthiermichigan.org/2017/08/03/melon-and-fruit-water-infusions/
http://dixieelixirs.com/product/watermelon-dew-drops/
https://boulderlocavore.com/watermelon-infused-tequila-watermelon-margaritas/

 

[JB Lions]

Niche of a niche. Sometimes you can niche yourself out.

Think classic car forum. Then Oldsmobile Classic Car Forum. Then Oldsmobile 1969 Cutlass forum, the last is too niche. Let's use an example Bulloney just used:

https://boulderlocavore.com/watermelon-infused-tequila-watermelon-margaritas/

"Margaritas are a summer cocktail favorite but none quench the thirst or the palate as much as Watermelon Margaritas."

Watermelon Margaritas - https://www.godaddy.com/dpp/find?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=watermelonmargaritas

Yes! Your domain is available. Buy it before someone else does.
watermelonmargaritas.com
$14.99*$11.99*

You just niched yourself out/wasted money if you go too niche.

Melon + some cannabis/cbd etc. term is an example.

I've made sites before where I've done that. Not enough searches, then even if you were on page 1, not enough traffic to be worth developing. So not a domain worth buying.

 

[Elad n]

Niche of a niche. Sometimes you can niche yourself out.

Think classic car forum. Then Oldsmobile Classic Car Forum. Then Oldsmobile 1969 Cutlass forum, the last is too niche. Let's use an example Bulloney just used:

https://boulderlocavore.com/watermelon-infused-tequila-watermelon-margaritas/

"Margaritas are a summer cocktail favorite but none quench the thirst or the palate as much as Watermelon Margaritas."

Watermelon Margaritas - https://www.godaddy.com/dpp/find?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=watermelonmargaritas

Yes! Your domain is available. Buy it before someone else does.
watermelonmargaritas.com
$14.99*$11.99*

You just niched yourself out/wasted money if you go too niche.

Melon + some cannabis/cbd etc. term is an example.

I've made sites before where I've done that. Not enough searches, then even if you were on page 1, not enough traffic to be worth developing. So not a domain worth buying.

2 minutes and you will get yourself an answer

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Niche of a niche. Sometimes you can niche yourself out.

Think classic car forum. Then Oldsmobile Classic Car Forum. Then Oldsmobile 1969 Cutlass forum, the last is too niche. Let's use an example Bulloney just used:

https://boulderlocavore.com/watermelon-infused-tequila-watermelon-margaritas/

"Margaritas are a summer cocktail favorite but none quench the thirst or the palate as much as Watermelon Margaritas."

Watermelon Margaritas - https://www.godaddy.com/dpp/find?checkAvail=1&tmskey=&domainToCheck=watermelonmargaritas

Yes! Your domain is available. Buy it before someone else does.
watermelonmargaritas.com
$14.99*$11.99*

You just niched yourself out/wasted money if you go too niche.

Melon + some cannabis/cbd etc. term is an example.

I've made sites before where I've done that. Not enough searches, then even if you were on page 1, not enough traffic to be worth developing. So not a domain worth buying.

No debate there JB...if you say it, it must be right I'm just a newbie you know. Like Corporal Klink use to say, "I know Nothing"

 

[JB Lions]

No debate there JB...if you say it, it must be right I'm just a newbie you know. Like Corporal Klink use to say, "I know Nothing"

It's based on experience and common sense. Today, I'm sure you can go and hand register all sorts of flavor + keywords. I'm surprised you stopped at melon, you weren't thorough enough. I expect some new ones from you today. The reality is, you can go too niche. See examples above.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

It's based on experience and common sense. Today, I'm sure you can go and hand register all sorts of flavor + keywords. I'm surprised you stopped at melon, you weren't thorough enough. I expect some new ones from you today. The reality is, you can go too niche. See examples above.

Oh I'm so sorry...I have neither experience or common sense

 

[Joe N]

No debate there JB...if you say it, it must be right I'm just a newbie you know. Like Corporal Klink use to say, "I know Nothing"

@JB Lions makes some good and valuable points, Rich. I'm not sure why the need for a sarcastic response.

In your experience with the Cannabis industry (or from research you've done so far), have you found a strong willingness to build sites and businesses around these micro-niche terms?

My own concern would be that something like cannabis-infused melon would be just one of dozens of products that a site would offer, so there wouldn't be much willingness to spend money on such a focused domain name.

I own (or have owned) a few names like this myself:

CastAluminumFurniture
ClogBoots
BreastPumpBra
HerbalLozenges
OrganicLipBalm

Some I hang on to because I think the focus of these products is large enough for some companies that the domains could still carry value. Others I let go because they belong to a range of offerings that's simply too vast for those specific terms to be worth much (if anything). It took me quite a while to learn that.

Do you think your melon domains could be at risk of falling in this category?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

@JB Lions makes some good and valuable points, Rich. I'm not sure why the need for a sarcastic response.

In your experience with the Cannabis industry (or from research you've done so far), have you found a strong willingness to build sites and businesses around these micro-niche terms?

My own concern would be that something like cannabis-infused melon would be just one of dozens of products that a site would offer, so there wouldn't be much willingness to spend money on such a focused domain name.

I own (or have owned) a few names like this myself:

CastAluminumFurniture
ClogBoots
BreastPumpBra
HerbalLozenges
OrganicLipBalm

Some I hang on to because I think the focus of these products is large enough for some companies that the domains could still carry value. Others I let go because they belong to a range of offerings that's simply too vast for those specific terms to be worth much (if anything). It took me quite a while to learn that.

Do you think your melon domains could be at risk of falling in this category?

Joe...I've explained to you a dozen times now my registering and marketing strategy. Do you have a clue how broad and expansive "melons" are around the world? How about "oranges"? "Banana's"? "Milk"? I'm very sorry if you don't understand

 

[Joe N]

Joe...I've explained to you a dozen times now my registering and marketing strategy. Do you have a clue how broad and expansive "melons" are around the world? How about "oranges"? "Banana's"? "Milk"? I'm very sorry if you don't understand

I absolutely agree that melons are a popular food/fruit, Rich. But we're talking about Cannabis Melons, which is very different.

 

[JB Lions]

Joe...I've explained to you a dozen times now my registering and marketing strategy. Do you have a clue how broad and expansive "melons" are around the world? How about "oranges"? "Banana's"? "Milk"? I'm very sorry if you don't understand

I don't see even 1 melon sale related to a specific product - https://namebio.com/?s==AjM1UDO4gTM

Think candy alone. Melon suckers, those exist, but............

melonsuckers.com is available
$11.99 $14.99
for the first year

Candy - Suckers - Melon/Other Flavor Suckers (too niche)

How about:

melonlollipops.com is available
$11.99 $14.99

Why do you think those are available? Real products but too niche. Who would develop a site just on melon/watermelon suckers/lollipops?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I absolutely agree that melons are a popular food/fruit, Rich. But we're talking about Cannabis Melons, which is very different.

No, we're talking about a number of derivatives spawned by CBDMellons like; MellonHigh, HempMelon, MelonFusion etc. You don't understand why the additional domains do you? It's called "covering your your bases" like cheap insurance. Lets leave it at this Joe...you do domaining your way, and I'll do it my way. I'm headed to Happy Hour with my wife and some friends. Enjoy!

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

@Avtar629 might be something you want to tell the guy ?

lol thanks for the mention here. As someone who got into domaining years ago and then just got back couple years ago and signed up to NP.

listen to experts on here who are "actually" making sales.

it will help you NOT LOSE MONEY as I have.

never be so cocky that you are so confident in your plans.

no matter what the "plan" it often goes to poop.

stick to what sells. you'll save yourself alot of headaches.

I've regged HMD domains and some .fun domains and dumped them all. even if they sold at auction after dumping them I don't care since when I had them there was no interest even with my outbounds.

I "Thought" I had a "great" idea by regging them but now the only thing suffering from my great idea is my wallet.

luckily I made crypto investments to cover my loses on domaining 5 times over. just waiting for 2019 so I'll completely get out of domaining and retire. lol

Good luck with your "Melons" buddy. lol

 

[Coinking]

lol thanks for the mention here. As someone who got into domaining years ago and then just got back couple years ago and signed up to NP.

listen to experts on here who are "actually" making sales.

it will help you NOT LOSE MONEY as I have.

never be so cocky that you are so confident in your plans.

no matter what the "plan" it often goes to poop.

stick to what sells. you'll save yourself alot of headaches.

I've regged HMD domains and some .fun domains and dumped them all. even if they sold at auction after dumping them I don't care since when I had them there was no interest even with my outbounds.

I "Thought" I had a "great" idea by regging them but now the only thing suffering from my great idea is my wallet.

luckily I made crypto investments to cover my loses on domaining 5 times over. just waiting for 2019 so I'll completely get out of domaining and retire. lol

Good luck with your "Melons" buddy. lol

Why you waiting 2019 and why you leaving domaining?

 

[WhoaDomain.com]

Why you waiting 2019 and why you leaving domaining?

one word. Ripple.

 

[convertcontent]

While there are dozens of different kinds of melons, virtually everyone in the world eats melon. For a domain, it's short, it's easy to remember and melons can be infused with just about anything. Here are a few of hundreds of sites about infusing melons, some even with cannabis/CBD.

https://iloveincredibles.com/
https://www.ahealthiermichigan.org/2017/08/03/melon-and-fruit-water-infusions/
http://dixieelixirs.com/product/watermelon-dew-drops/
https://boulderlocavore.com/watermelon-infused-tequila-watermelon-margaritas/

you should try delayed gratification