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Hi, I'm a designer / web developer new to the domain buying scene. I like the fact that when I buy a cool domain name, there's potential I can develop a website on it myself.

But recently I spent a lot of money on domaining... so I would appreciate if you have some advice or direction for me; or maybe I should just quit domaining because of how bad the regs are?

Also what should I do with keyword domains as Brandbucket doesn't seem to like these.

4xAA.com (keyword)
AceGT.com (brandable)
AgenciesList.com (keyword, will develop this)
AiBoots.com (keyword - nonexistant yet)
Aihance.com (brandable, I like this a lot because of Behance (big site) )
Aitasy.com (brandable)
Brandacular.com (brandable)
BuyHealing.com (keyword)
ClubState.com (brandable)
ColorBackground.com (keyword)
ColorsMeaning.com (keyword)
DanceJumps.com (keyword)
Digery.com (brandable)
Digitalry.com (brandable)
DopamineFunction.com (keyword)
Droneri.com (brandable)
Dronier.com (brandable)
Expertoid.com (brandable)
FeetInches.com (keyword)
FreeAds.io (keyword, will develop this)
Fundega.com (brandable)
GirlOffers.com (keyword)
GuruSonic.com (brandable)
HipsterWallpaper.com (keyword)
HoloShack.com (brandable)
InvestBliss.com (brandable)
KittyStudios.com (brandable)
KpopArtists.com (keyword, developed website)
Limo.kr (keyword)
NorseGoddess.com (keyword + brandable)
MusicPuns.com (keyword)
MusicToSleep.com (keyword, developed website)
Profithance.com (brandable)
ProfitSonic.com (brandable)
RealtorSalary.com (keyword, illegal copyright?)
RoyalOpen.com (brandable, Listed on BrandBucket! http://brandbucket.com/royalopen )
SexWithBoss.com (keyword)
SkillJolt.com (brandable)
SnapXr.com (brandable)
Staresque.com (brandable)
ThePerfectArt.com (brandable)
Upezy.com (brandable)
VeganAlfredo.com (keyword)
VeganFlan.com (keyword)
VeganMeatballs.com (keyword)
VeganSwan.com (brandable)
VegetarianCurry.com (keyword)
YouCosplay.com (brandable)
YouCrystal.com (brandable)
Zenasy.com (brandable)
ZenJolt.com (brandable)
 
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Any domain you set a BIN for at Afternic is placed into their premium promotion network.

Every one of them? I had submitted a few others with a BIN but it only liked SoftwareDevelop.net

Do you also know if transferring to Godaddy is worth it just for that, or is it some kind of scam
 
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1. Forget estibot
2. don't rely on search volume at all. People search for all kinds of things, which does not mean that would make a sense as business name. See example of "feet/inches". I searched on days for "cm to feet inches" to convert my son's height and got google's own calculator, did quick conversion and was done for it. On the other hand many creative short brandables are almost never searched for.

Most sold names are for naming company and/or product. Not to describe what kind of business the company is in.
 
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Do you also know if transferring to Godaddy is worth it just for that, or is it some kind of scam
The whole "fast transfer" thing has improved in just the past few weeks. Even Tucows/Opensrs finally got their heads out of their butts and the opt-in is working for the first time. Other registrars are doing the same.

If you list with Afternic AND your domain is accepted into "fast transfer", it will likely show up even in Godaddy domain lookups.

Example: I own SpecialtyMRI.com reg'd at Tucows/Opensrs. Until this week I could not get it into "FT" no matter how much I tried. So after hearing T/O fixed their opt-in, I re-submitted it to Afternic. An hour later I got an Opt-In from Tucows/Opensrs, I did the opt-in so now if you go to Godaddy and type in SpecialtyMRI.com in the search you get:

SpecialtyMRI.com is available
Buy Now Price $625.00*
Estimated Value$1,352

It showed that with the option to "Get It" now. Which means Godaddy is referencing the Afternic pricing for a domain offered at the registrar Tucows/Opensrs.

So, I did not have to transfer to Godaddy to get that kind of response to a look up.
 
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Update:

  • Dronier.com accepted to BrandBucket.

But they only gave me a recommended price of $1995 so my max price I could list for was $2395. I thought this is actually very solid and could go for a lot more...??

My description I wrote: "This should totally be a word, and maybe it will be! A person who handles or produces drones, bombardier; brigadier; financier; grenadier".

-eer variant : denoting persons who produce, handle, or are otherwise significantly associated with the referent of the base word.

1. Forget estibot
2. don't rely on search volume at all. People search for all kinds of things, which does not mean that would make a sense as business name. See example of "feet/inches". I searched on days for "cm to feet inches" to convert my son's height and got google's own calculator, did quick conversion and was done for it. On the other hand many creative short brandables are almost never searched for.

Most sold names are for naming company and/or product. Not to describe what kind of business the company is in.

I see, so it's much easier to sell naming instead of good SEO keywords I guess.

The whole "fast transfer" thing has improved in just the past few weeks. Even Tucows/Opensrs finally got their heads out of their butts and the opt-in is working for the first time. Other registrars are doing the same.

If you list with Afternic AND your domain is accepted into "fast transfer", it will likely show up even in Godaddy domain lookups.

Example: I own SpecialtyMRI.com reg'd at Tucows/Opensrs. Until this week I could not get it into "FT" no matter how much I tried. So after hearing T/O fixed their opt-in, I re-submitted it to Afternic. An hour later I got an Opt-In from Tucows/Opensrs, I did the opt-in so now if you go to Godaddy and type in SpecialtyMRI.com in the search you get:

SpecialtyMRI.com is available
Buy Now Price $625.00*
Estimated Value$1,352

It showed that with the option to "Get It" now. Which means Godaddy is referencing the Afternic pricing for a domain offered at the registrar Tucows/Opensrs.

So, I did not have to transfer to Godaddy to get that kind of response to a look up.

Thanks for sharing your experience. For me, GoDaddy domain search lookup is behaving really weirdly... maybe I'll call them up to ask them about it.

For example, my domain SoftwareDevelop.net is listed at $3999 at Afternic ( i know, joke price), but in GoDaddy it shows $2,726.03 , with a "GET IT" button. Fast transfer: not eligible because it has to be with Godaddy.

ExclaimDesign.com shows $4,089.73 with a "GET IT" button but I listed for $2999 at Afternic. Fast transfer: no

SnapXR.com shows $1,633.71 with a "BUY IT NOW" button... when I listed with no BIN at all in Afternic.. Fast Transfer: no.

Lol what's going on.
 
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Called Afternic Support and he was very good at explaining!
  • GoDaddy shows it at AUD prices whereas Afternic is USD.
  • I increased the price of SoftwareDevelop so it can take a day to update on GoDaddy
  • For SnapXR GoDaddy premium marketplace takes precedence over Afternic prices.
  • Being eligible for Premium domain listing as per the screenshot for SoftwareDevelop.net doesn't mean they appraised it, it just means there was a BIN and a registrar partner for afternic like Godaddy, Namesilo.
 
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I would love VeganFlan AS A BRAND :P probably I'm just crazy about rhymes
 
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I would love VeganFlan AS A BRAND :P probably I'm just crazy about rhymes

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Well BrandBucket declined Expertoid.com so I just submitted it to Namerific this morning and they approved it.

Made up a slogan like "Become an Expertoid today!" lol. I don't know if I want to sell it anymore though, maybe it's good enough to make a freelancer directory website on?
 
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My advice.. don’t hand reg anymore domains.

RoyalOpen.com is nice though

Try to avoid registering or buying a domain unless you can find and write down the contact info for 10 possible buyers.
 
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You know --- I've been here for ten years, doing well, and haven't messed with any of this.

Its not that I am not creative ... I am way too creative, and therefore I have difficulty thinking common. That's a problem that cannot really be learned out of. There is an answer - short domains. Much of short domains is math: letter quality is objective. S>A>C>M>T>B etc. CVCV is also creative, I don't have any.

LLLL.com is a bit depressed at the moment, long term they will do well as long as domains are popular. And there is a bonus - every LLL.com or LLLL.com has a minimum price that is certain. Two word domains have much more uncertainty in price at wholesale.
 
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You wasted $500. You could have found a good name at auction for $300, flipped it for $900 to $1400 in a few weeks.
bit off(maybe pm?),,,say I have just $350. Will you advice I a) get a name for $300 and quickly flip for higher or b) spend on good hand regs and closeouts.

if (a), what names will you suggest?
 
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OP you're doing great(y)

Sometimes you have to go with your gut feeling. See a name, like it, check estibot, love it, buy it. Rinse and repeat and you'll sell one of the names for $5k to cover for the others.

Don't forget to leave auto renew on(y)
 
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OP you're doing great(y)

Sometimes you have to go with your gut feeling. See a name, like it, check estibot, love it, buy it. Rinse and repeat and you'll sell one of the names for $5k to cover for the others.

Don't forget to leave auto renew on(y)

Not sure if sarcastic or not LOL
 
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Brandbucket accepted ProfitSonic.com and recommended the highest price yet - $2,495

Bet no one saw that coming :O

they declined a bunch of my other shit though, including InvestBliss.com, HoloShack, KittyStudios
 
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Don't be so demotivated. Most of the domainers go through that phase where they learn which domains are valuable and which are no. That judgement is crucial in this field. Only thing is you have learnt it hard way by investing 500$ at once.

To recover your investment, follow these suggestions

1. Start liquidating domains as quick as possible.
2. First sell the domains which are going to expire soon.
3. List the domains for minimum value (like $9 etc) not more so that they could sell faster.
4. Don't expect all the domains to be sold. But you might recover/ compensate with domains which got better price.
5. Do not renew bad domains.
6. Do not purchase domains based on valuations alone or instinctively.
7. List the domains on as many auction platforms as possible so that you can recover quickly.

You could recover at least part of your investment. Then sit and decide if you really want to be in domain business. If you want to research before you send at least a cent.

Good Luck!!
 
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even if I tell you your domain are not good, I really doubt you will listen my suggestion :xf.grin:
and worse! I Have feeling that you'll do more handreg!:xf.wink:

Correct me if I am wrong :xf.grin:
 
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even if I tell you your domain are not good, I really doubt you will listen my suggestion :xf.grin:
and worse! I Have feeling that you'll do more handreg!:xf.wink:

Correct me if I am wrong :xf.grin:

Just hand-regged CreditBench.com after Brandbucket approved it.

But that was something I tried to approve earlier. I'm kind of done with making up names for now, need to see if they will actually sell or not.

Don't be so demotivated. Most of the domainers go through that phase where they learn which domains are valuable and which are no. That judgement is crucial in this field. Only thing is you have learnt it hard way by investing 500$ at once.

To recover your investment, follow these suggestions

1. Start liquidating domains as quick as possible.
2. First sell the domains which are going to expire soon.
3. List the domains for minimum value (like $9 etc) not more so that they could sell faster.
4. Don't expect all the domains to be sold. But you might recover/ compensate with domains which got better price.
5. Do not renew bad domains.
6. Do not purchase domains based on valuations alone or instinctively.
7. List the domains on as many auction platforms as possible so that you can recover quickly.

You could recover at least part of your investment. Then sit and decide if you really want to be in domain business. If you want to research before you send at least a cent.

Good Luck!!

Thanks but yeah I'm not going to until the last few months. There are a few that suck totally though like ionLove.com and HubModel.com that I have which I need to get rid of for low prices like that. If they have the same registrar is the transfer free?
 
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I like
ClubState.com
SkillJolt.com

and some of the vegan names, other than that I'd drop most of em. Not worth the renewal price
 
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If they have the same registrar is the transfer free?

Yeah, for 99% of registrars a push is free. 1&1 is the only one I know of who can't do an internal push and you're charged for a transfer (i.e. recipient pays a renewal fee).
 
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REALLY PLEASED what they did with Dronier!

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https://www.brandbucket.com/dronier

In comparison, the namerific logos I got are so shit and CLIP ART, certainly not a "$100 design fee"!

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Just hand-regged CreditBench.com after Brandbucket approved it.

But that was something I tried to approve earlier. I'm kind of done with making up names for now, need to see if they will actually sell or not.



Thanks but yeah I'm not going to until the last few months. There are a few that suck totally though like ionLove.com and HubModel.com that I have which I need to get rid of for low prices like that. If they have the same registrar is the transfer free?

I was in your shoe! so I know what you'll do next! and its not sarcastic comment, its just most newbies like u and me usually have same pattern:xf.grin: and don't take it personally its just my 2 cents :xf.smile:

just suggestion, since you already spent $500, I think you should read more Namepros pages! especially the basic stuff! and last is, actually domain biz are not that hard, its just most of us already late, so almost impossible to get decent domain with undervalue! and most expert know that! that's why no matter what you buy, especially for handreg, your domain will be SUck! but again, who decide Good domain or Bad domain, is not NP member, but End user! if end user Buy, No matter How Bad your domain is, as long it sold, then your domain good! :xf.grin:
 
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What does this mean ?

I meant that since he's new, the worst thing he can currently do is browse a list of thousands of 20 year old expired domains with nice keywords in random extensions that are easy to buy.
God knows how much he's spent since he created this thread about $500 lol
 
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I meant that since he's new, the worst thing he can currently do is browse a list of thousands of 20 year old expired domains with nice keywords in random extensions that are easy to buy.
God knows how much he's spent since he created this thread about $500 lol

Ive stopped doing that since FeetInches.com, mostly now if i wanna buy a name I submit it to BrandBucket first. If they approve at least I know there's some value there lol
 
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Ive stopped doing that since FeetInches.com, mostly now if i wanna buy a name I submit it to BrandBucket first. If they approve at least I know there's some value there lol

Sadly, BB is not the best guide for good names ) They rejected noble/metal, which is a dictionary word and I subsequently sold it for $12.5K. Some other names that are sold via afternic and other marketplaces that were BB rejects watch/match, globular/ity, w/ultra, finance/fi, chef/ix, mart/smart and many more. While they might approve some names that will probably never sell. That is why you can find BB listed names here on NP for $10-$20 often because the investors realize that they might be stuck paying renewal fees for something with little chance to sell.

I have had 181 names with BB, 9 sold. But out of those 181, about 70 are organically added by me and the rest bought here on NP as already listed. Now from my sales 7 comes from my own 70 while just 2 comes from 121 purchased from others. Average holding time for all would be around 2 years. So mine sell at 5% a year, the purchased ones at 1%. And yet, BB was approving my added names at around 12%, while average for the marketplace is around 30%.

This is not to bash BB, but just to point out that every marketplace represents the taste of its management/ownership and is no different than me approving your names or you approving mine.
 
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I should also add, relying on the judgement of a third party (BB) is a bad idea, even when that third party is experienced. You have to learn for yourself what makes a good domain name. BB have nothing to lose, they even charge you to list a name that most likely will never sell anyway.
The marketplaces cannot deliver miracles and sell names that nobody wants.
 
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