What is a good monthly number of views on Sedo?

[NickB]

Hi

I have a few names listed on Sedo and would like to know what you consider a good monthly view number?

I do not mean parking statistics, but when someone clicks on the Buy now or Make offer tab......

Any feedback would be appreciated.....

 

[Name Trader]

20 is a good number.

 

[NickB]

20 is a good number.

Thanks for the reply, appreciate it

 

[Name Trader]

It really depends on whether there is any interest in you domain. 1 would be a great number if there is no interest in your domain. Without the domain names. We are just stabbing in the dark.

 

[NickB]

It really depends on whether there is any interest in you domain. 1 would be a great number if there is no interest in your domain. Without the domain names. We are just stabbing in the dark.

Good point - 60% - 70% (maybe higher!) of the names I have bought are crap, as I have not been doing it that long and will not be renewing them.

One of my first expensive mistakes was contact.creditcard and has had no views - EVER
A recent example got Robot Expert .org from Expired and it has had 11 views in the 4 days listed

IMO the general quality of my names is improving so I am looking ahead to renewal time (which starts in January 2019) and do not want to base it on me just liking a name and becoming attached to it. I am looking at different ways to gauge interest & quality, one of which is views.

At this stage it is really looking for a general rule of thumb not a be all and end all number.....

 

[biggie]

you can get a lot of "views" on a domain, month after month, then year after year, and those same "views" may never turn into a sale.

and.... those same views, may give you the notion to keep renewing that name, hoping that one of those views will be a buyer.

( the mind tells you that somebody must be interested and they are just waiting for me to drop it.)

on the other hand, if you are getting some clicks and earnings enough ppc to "renew" that name each year, then , the name starts to pay for itself, while you're waiting or handling other bizness

imo...

 

[NickB]

you can get a lot of "views" on a domain, month after month, then year after year, and those same "views" may never turn into a sale.

and.... those same views, may give you the notion to keep renewing that name, hoping that one of those views will be a buyer.

( the mind tells you that somebody must be interested and they are just waiting for me to drop it.)

on the other hand, if you are getting some clicks and earnings enough ppc to "renew" that name each year, then , the name starts to pay for itself, while you're waiting or handling other bizness

imo...

Very good points!

Might be missing a trick there, have seen repeated references on here to trying names on a ppc basis - did dabble at the beginning of the year with quite a few names, but have not continued this. Will go and read some of the threads again.

Thanks

 

[Name Trader]

The best days for PPC are all behind us. PPC Revenues overall have dropped significantly over many years now. I wouldn't call this a viable business model any longer. The returns are a pittance of what they once were. Of course there will always be exceptions. But anybody taking objection to this post, should explain what and how they get enough revenues to pay for their entire portfolio of domains. I am an old dog, but I'm all ears about learning new tricks

 

[DeliDomains]

Number of views don't determine the value of the domain, Offers do.

 

[biggie]

The best days for PPC are all behind us. PPC Revenues overall have dropped significantly over many years now. I wouldn't call this a viable business model any longer. The returns are a pittance of what they once were. Of course there will always be exceptions. But anybody taking objection to this post, should explain what and how they get enough revenues to pay for their entire portfolio of domains. I am an old dog, but I'm all ears about learning new tricks

I agree that the best days of PPC are behind us

but for those who keep creating new ppc platforms or buying up the old ppc sites.... then it must seem like a viable business model for them.

still, the question wasn't about, nor was my advice about earning ppc to cover one's portfolio, but more about a single domain that gets views, but isn't enabled for ppc.

it is though, still possible for a single name to earn it's weight in ppc revenue

now whether one can acquire domains that will sustain the portfolio via ppc clicks alone, is a different question, then too, that can depend on how many names one is holding.

just saying....


imo….

 

[NickB]

Number of views don't determine the value of the domain, Offers do.

With that logic we then don't renew any domains we haven't had an offer on after the 12 month period?

 

[NickB]

I agree that the best days of PPC are behind us

but for those who keep creating new ppc platforms or buying up the old ppc sites.... then it must seem like a viable business model for them.

still, the question wasn't about, nor was my advice about earning ppc to cover one's portfolio, but more about a single domain that gets views, but isn't enabled for ppc.

it is though, still possible for a single name to earn it's weight in ppc revenue

now whether one can acquire domains that will sustain the portfolio via ppc clicks alone, is a different question, then too, that can depend on how many names one is holding.

just saying....


imo….

It is worth checking all names in portfolio to see if any have that "Gold value" - this is something I will be looking at, will not be parking all domains but if any show revenue value then it is worth doing, as you said in previous post it then pays for itself - thanks for the input

 

[DeliDomains]

With that logic we then don't renew any domains we haven't had an offer on after the 12 month period?

Would you renew a domain after 12 months which has a lot of views and not a single offer?

 

[NickB]

Depends......if you read one of my previous posts I said was looking at various ways to gauge interest and quality - one of which is views.

I personally would not delete all my names every 12 months just because they had not received an offer, likewise I would not just keep a name because it had loads of views though I would be more inclined to keep it for another 12 months

A lot of names have been held by their respective owners for longer periods of time than 12 months and have seen very nice sales figures.

 

[NickB]

Out of curiosity, how did this thread end up in a domain marketplace review?

 

[DeliDomains]

Depends......if you read one of my previous posts I said was looking at various ways to gauge interest and quality - one of which is views.

I personally would not delete all my names every 12 months just because they had not received an offer, likewise I would not just keep a name because it had loads of views though I would be more inclined to keep it for another 12 months

A lot of names have been held by their respective owners for longer periods of time than 12 months and have seen very nice sales figures.

Correct, sometimes people just tend to view the offer page out of curiosity to gauge the age, traffic, price of similar domains, so considering this traffic views to determine the values of the domain might be misleading.

Where as if the domain has a true value, even with less viewership offers would roll in.

Now its entirely up to you which parameters you choose to determine keep or drop the domain.

 

[NickB]

Correct, sometimes people just tend to view the offer page out of curiosity to gauge the age, traffic, price of similar domains, so considering this traffic views to determine the values of the domain might be misleading.

Where as if the domain has a true value, even with less viewership offers would roll in.

Now its entirely up to you which parameters you choose to determine keep or drop the domain.

That was summed up very concisely - Thanks

 

[Name Trader]

I agree that the best days of PPC are behind us

but for those who keep creating new ppc platforms or buying up the old ppc sites.... then it must seem like a viable business model for them.

still, the question wasn't about, nor was my advice about earning ppc to cover one's portfolio, but more about a single domain that gets views, but isn't enabled for ppc.

it is though, still possible for a single name to earn it's weight in ppc revenue

now whether one can acquire domains that will sustain the portfolio via ppc clicks alone, is a different question, then too, that can depend on how many names one is holding.

I'm happy that you agree with my basic tenant that the best days of PPC are behind us.

People who are creating new PPC Platforms or buying up old PPC sites, doesn't necessarily imply that they have a viable business model. They might be throwing a lot of good money at a bad strategy. Which they will discover over time.

You clarification is appreciated about you comments being about single domains rather than to support a portfolio, is welcomed.. Because it appeared to be ambiguous from your original post. I of course agree, that as an individual domain strategy, where you can "test the waters" for a year. Why would you not apply such a strategy for single domains? But I have been doing this for well over a decade. And in my personal experience, a domains parking revenue, halves every year (on average).So you very quickly get into a negative cash flow position. Lets say. A domain gets $20 revenue in the last 12 months. For $10 domain, this is welcome profit. But next year, You spend a second $10 and receive $0 profit in the 2nd year. After that. It's a losing enterprise. So. there is a question as to when and why you purchased this particular domain. You need a reason, other than for the reason for it's parking revenue. Usually this is for it's resale potential. In fact, if I could predict the future parking revenue, for the next year, I would say I have already bought into a losing enterprise. OK. If you can can let it go at B/E point. This would be great. But B/E point is already a losing proposition because it won't cover your losses on your other domains. which also apply this strategy but don't make the returns. And you will need a ruthless, cut-throat attitude to ditch domains which you bought for resale purposes because they are not supporting themselves.

So although I agree with your statement that it is possible for a single domain to earn it's weight in PPC Revenue. It is mostly unlikely if looked at as a multiple year strategy, but is generally unsustainable, as a rule of thumb

I agree sustaining a portfolio from PPC Revenue alone (after all this was my point you were responding to) is an extremely difficult result to achieve. I'm sure there are some people who might be able to claim this. But they are probably a very small minority. And I wish them well. They could very well by churning over their entire portfolio every 2-3 years. Not for the faint of heart. I was simply warning that this is not a strategy that should taken on by most domainers. However this, along with, domain sales strategy, might be a better compromise

For me. I look at all those expiring domains which are sustaining themselves and renew them first, before I even go onto looking at my expiring domain portfolio, each month. and making a decision to keep or drop, individually.

 

[biggie]

I'm happy that you agree with my basic tenant that the best days of PPC are behind us.

People who are creating new PPC Platforms or buying up old PPC sites, doesn't necessarily imply that they have a viable business model. They might be throwing a lot of good money at a bad strategy. Which they will discover over time.

yes @stub the best days are long gone

but.... they are not forgotten, nor were/are those earnings wasted.

bodis has been ppc provider for over a decade,
@Donny (parked/voodoo) has been running ppc platforms for same period
parkingcrew took over namedrive and later fabulous, and both were solid platforms for several years

it's not just the revenue that these services can gain, but also vital traffic information on thousands of domain names.
that info in itself, can be just as valuable than the earnings or valuable enough to support the model with the earnings.


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For me. I look at all those expiring domains which are sustaining themselves and renew them first, before I even go onto looking at my expiring domain portfolio, each month. and making a decision to keep or drop, individually.

the fact that you have domains which sustain themselves, only gives credence to my point.

I've been riding the ppc train for more than 10 years, using similar strategy as you when making same decisions.
perhaps if I had your sustainables, then i'd be closer to 100% sustainability than I am now.



imo….