Failed Dreams - 14M+ Deleted Domains

[Anjani]

Source Domcop

Total expiring domain names: 5,053,973
Total expired domain names: 3,911,200
Total available dropped domains: 10,419,007

Source Expired Domains

272,228,634 Deleted Domains, 2,506,414 Expired Domains

If you discount the SEO Jingbang what it tells you is that inspite of the best laid plans many domainers gave up after a point..Why buy this junk at a premium?

End user would not care if it's hand regged or bought in auction as long as it matches his need,

Why not buy available domains as hand regs? i see many have a domain history of upto 17 years.- it surely has changed many hands and was valuable at one point.

The odds of a sale are the same so why buy expired or deleted domains?

 

[Anjani]

Looks like there are no simple answers to this...

 

[Kate]

The odds of a sale are the same so why buy expired or deleted domains?

Easy. Good names usually are aged domains. The odds of a sale are not the same, some domains are better than others.
And it's better to register a name when at least one person has had the same idea, than a domain that has never been registered by anyone in 30 years... the odds of a sale will be higher if somebody is going to think of the same name.
Of course tens of thousands of domains drop every day. But don't assume they were all speculative regs by domainers. They are not all 'dreams', simply names that outlived their usefulness.
Actually, anything that is remotely good will be snapped anyway.
Personally I find the droplists are a source of inspiration. It's often easier to spot a viable candidates in the lists than try to make up something that is available.
But if you want to acquire valuable domains, you need to contact domain owners directly, not wait for the domains to drop.

 

[Federer]

Taking into consideration the increased competition at drop-auctions, for those with an eagle-eye there are actually far more opportunities (cost/quality) with dropped/available domains than there are with expiring domains. It's a numbers game, even with mostly average brandcentric domains (hugedomains/Mike Mann/BuyDomains use this very model - knowing they will turn over 0.8%-1.5% per year...). But you need to own thousands upon thousands of average brands for this model to work on (almost) autopilot.

 

[1Darko]

Source Domcop

Total expiring domain names: 5,053,973
Total expired domain names: 3,911,200
Total available dropped domains: 10,419,007

Source Expired Domains

272,228,634 Deleted Domains, 2,506,414 Expired Domains

If you discount the SEO Jingbang what it tells you is that inspite of the best laid plans many domainers gave up after a point..Why buy this junk at a premium?

End user would not care if it's hand regged or bought in auction as long as it matches his need,

Why not buy available domains as hand regs? i see many have a domain history of upto 17 years.- it surely has changed many hands and was valuable at one point.

The odds of a sale are the same so why buy expired or deleted domains?

You can try this test. Put all fingers of both hands on your keyboard, close your eyes and start randomly typing up to maybe 15 letters. At the end put .com and check if it is available for registration. Do this 10 or if you wish 100 times. Then come back to this thread and report how many combinations you found were available for registration. After that the discussion here will be very interesting.

 

[biggie]

some of my names are probably in both of those groups

and they'll probably be added back to the "this domain name is for sale" pile, later.

why, cuz some names haven't caught up with their time yet, and some names.... their time has passed.

it's a cycle, and we just ride the wave



imo......

 

[Anjani]

Taking into consideration the increased competition at drop-auctions, for those with an eagle-eye there are actually far more opportunities (cost/quality) with dropped/available domains than there are with expiring domains. It's a numbers game, even with mostly average brandcentric domains (hugedomains/Mike Mann/BuyDomains use this very model - knowing they will turn over 0.8%-1.5% per year...). But you need to own thousands upon thousands of average brands for this model to work on (almost) autopilot.

Interesting! I did go through the portfolio of Buy Domains - portfolio size is 1 Million Plus and most of Mike Mann's domains listed on his website( Don't have exact number count) and yes BuyDomains sells anywhere between 5-10 domains everyday in the range of $1200 - $4000. Mike mann's reported sales are high value though the number count appears low.

 

[Anjani]

You can try this test. Put all fingers of both hands on your keyboard, close your eyes and start randomly typing up to maybe 15 letters. At the end put .com and check if it is available for registration. Do this 10 or if you wish 100 times. Then come back to this thread and report how many combinations you found were available for registration. After that the discussion here will be very interesting.

I tried your test and Voila pubdial.com,roomdial.com,skidial.com are available, only problem is there is no known history of anyone owning this ever but obviously am not stating thousands of available names which are potential winners.

 

[Anjani]

Easy. Good names usually are aged domains. The odds of a sale are not the same, some domains are better than others.
And it's better to register a name when at least one person has had the same idea, than a domain that has never been registered by anyone in 30 years... the odds of a sale will be higher if somebody is going to think of the same name.
Of course tens of thousands of domains drop every day. But don't assume they were all speculative regs by domainers. They are not all 'dreams', simply names that outlived their usefulness.
Actually, anything that is remotely good will be snapped anyway.
Personally I find the droplists are a source of inspiration. It's often easier to spot a viable candidates in the lists than try to make up something that is available.
But if you want to acquire valuable domains, you need to contact domain owners directly, not wait for the domains to drop.

Yes in Agreement. Good names are aged domains but unfortunately are pricey haven't yet got the acumen to buy the second tier sensible one's from aftermarket.