warning I lose $42,000 on an escrow.com transaction as pdd.com, help please.

[American]

Hi,
I bought pdd.com via escrow.com and the seller took the domain back on networksolutions.com after he received the money $42,000 US dollar.

for detailed information, please view http://www.drjw.com/

Any suggestions about what I can do is welcome, thank you!

If you know a lawyer who is an expert in online domain name disputes, please tell me his/her contact information, thank you very much!

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

GOOD LUCK !

Weird Story

I bet Networlsolution don't would like to get a bad Reputation !!

I know a good Lawyer but he is from Germany ( he work with Sedo ! )

 

[Michael Ehrhardt]

Thanks for the tag, @creataweb Already in touch with the buyer

NICE !

 

[Furquan]

Drag the Network Solutions & seller in the court & give them pain in there ass. You should also fill the complaint with icann & Escrow.com about the breach of the agreement.

 

[Irfan Shafi]

How can a seller take back his domain after transferring. This is the first time i heard a seller take back his name. How can give your name to him.

However you need to call escrow as soon as possible. You don't need lawyer this time. Escrow can help but be quick

 

[Irfan Shafi]

Why did you release money on escrow when you didn't get the domain name?

He is saying he got the domain name.

Check his story:

0.25 2017 I bought 3620.com from [email protected] on sedo.com (Sedo.com 3620.com Transaction Scheenshot), 3620.com was pushed to my networksolutions account
12.04 2017 I bought pdd.com from [email protected] on escrow.com (Escrow.com PDD.Com Transaction Screenshot) , pdd.com was pushed to my networksolutions account
12.05 2017 - 12.10 2017 I was on vacation
12.11 2017 I found my account on networksolutions is locked and pdd.com was not in my account any more. (I didn't receive any email or notification from networksolutions)
12.12 2017 I contacted the seller and he promised to return my money (till now Jan.3 2018 I havn't reveived the money and the seller disappeared from Dec. 25 2017) (seller emails screenshots)

 

[Silentptnr]

This sounds like a criminal matter. You might need FBI and law enforcement.

 

[campout]

What is the Escrow.com policy on this? I assume the domain was stolen and will be returned to its rightful owner, but if the scammer escapes with the money, who eats the loss?

 

[Haroon Basha]

The whole story is very sad and it is surprising how such a daylight robbery like incident happened with top names like Network Solution and Escrow.com involved in it. The reputation of these two firms itself is at stake if the buyer did not get his domain name to his account. The domain name PDD.com must be returned to the new buyer. That is the universal decision. Hope better sense prevails.

 

[campout]

The domain name PDD.com must be returned to the new buyer. That is the universal decision.

Well if it was stolen, then it will have to be returned to the entity it was stolen from.

 

[Lox]

This sounds like a criminal matter.

You are right. The person/name doesn't exist in a record of Dallas, TX db. The address entered in Sedo is incomplete. Bunch of banks share the same address; Preston rd 14999 also Western Union point and Coinstar exchange.

 

[Haroon Basha]

Well if it was stolen, then it will have to be returned to the entity it was stolen from.

This domain PDD.com was last seen in Buyer's account officially (after proper payment through escrow.com). So the natural beneficiary should be buyer only.

 

[elevator]

He is saying he got the domain name.

Check his story:

0.25 2017 I bought 3620.com from [email protected] on sedo.com (Sedo.com 3620.com Transaction Scheenshot), 3620.com was pushed to my networksolutions account
12.04 2017 I bought pdd.com from [email protected] on escrow.com (Escrow.com PDD.Com Transaction Screenshot) , pdd.com was pushed to my networksolutions account
12.05 2017 - 12.10 2017 I was on vacation
12.11 2017 I found my account on networksolutions is locked and pdd.com was not in my account any more. (I didn't receive any email or notification from networksolutions)
12.12 2017 I contacted the seller and he promised to return my money (till now Jan.3 2018 I havn't reveived the money and the seller disappeared from Dec. 25 2017) (seller emails screenshots)

What i 'm seen here is an act of connivance between networksolutions and the seller. If the domain was pushed to the buyer's account at networksolutions and the account was locked. This is a very glaring act of fraud and should be handled with all seriousness as quickly as possible.

I have heard many bad news of this networksolutions many times. What a hell is the company.

 

[1Darko]

@American
If you need a lawyer in the US you could contact @jberryhill
He is also on this forum. Hope you can sort this out.

 

[howudoin8]

Keep us updated mate since such cases have huge repercussions on this industry.

We would really like to see this sorted asap.......

 

[Mifuru]

#34 rule: dont push .com to netsol
i recommended transfer domains to enom or your chinise registrar.

 

[campout]

The funds were dispersed on December 4. I don't think is going to get sorted. Either Escrow.com or the OP is going to take a $42,000 hit if that money can't be recovered, which seems likely.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

@American - Did you do any due diligence to ensure PDD.com was not stolen before purchasing it? If you wouldn't mind posting a screenshot, I am interested to see how the sale of PDD.com was negotiated.

Have you had any contact with the previous owner [Professional Data Dimensions]? To include before the sale, and/or after the sale?

FWIW: RBG.com also had a recent WHOIS with the same email. and WHOIS info as whomever sold @American PDD.com. And similar to PDD.com, the WHOIS info changed back to the previous owner.

#34 rule: dont push .com to netsol

Rule #1. Do your due diligence to insure you are not buying a stolen domain.

 

[campout]

#34 rule: dont push .com to netsol
i recommended transfer domains to enom or your chinise registrar.

If the domain was stolen, I don't think it matters if it were pushed or transferred -- the registrars will work together to claw back the domain for the person who had it stolen. At least, that's how I think it tends to work.

 

[Mifuru]

@American, contact with Escrow support and refund your money to credit card (or how you pay).
With facts, send screenshots - money refund, seller blocked, pdd.com & 3620.com with you.

 

[Addison]

If you know a lawyer who is an expert in online domain name disputes, please tell me his/her contact information, thank you very much!

@jberryhill @stevanlieberman @Jason @ ESQwire Cc @Sedo

 

[Mifuru]

If the domain was stolen, I don't think it matters if it were pushed or transferred -- the registrars will work together to claw back the domain for the person who had it stolen. At least, that's how I think it tends to work.

Justice must triumph

 

[Mifuru]

GOOD LUCK !

Weird Story

I bet Networlsolution don't would like to get a bad Reputation !!

I know a good Lawyer but he is from Germany ( he work with Sedo ! )

invite lawyer

 

[ramkumaritrvs]

Seller should refund the money if the domain is stolen, because buyer don't have rights to claim his ownership even if he paid to wrong party. You (Buyer) might be paid to thief / broker.

ICANN can't help on this matter because you have to dig about seller before the sale.

I suggest you to file FBI case because this is under criminal activity. You got seller's address, send him a legal notice. If it's undelivered or wrong address then you can easily sue him under multiple sections.

P.S: I am not a lawyer. JMO.

Wish you to recover your funds.

 

[elevator]

@jberryhill @stevanlieberman @Jason @ ESQwire Cc @Sedo

All of these members are great lawyers please I hope they will all come up with best solutions to this matter.

I ' m not comfortable with this rubish

 

[hn]

How can a seller take back his domain after transferring. This is the first time i heard a seller take back his name. How can give your name to him.

It happens. Has happened to me. Had purchased a domain from a leading domain auction company. Close to 45 days after it was transferred to me suddenly the domain disappeared and was given back the money I paid for the auction!!! But did not get the domain