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I just won ChefMR In the com. I bid on it because I can MR/Holo aiding in cooking in the future.

Wearing the HoloLens, or similar device and having your own personal chef instructor.

That was my thought process when bidding!
 
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VR Bike takes you anywhere in the world via Google street view.
Therapy, Rehab & Exercise and just Fun ?
http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/It...akes-you-anywhere-in-the-world-456986723.html

I was wondering when this stuff would appear in the real market.
Now I know it has begun. But will they buy it ?
Still a bit early for many sub-niches and when you think about what the cost would be to just add-on a tracker for the wheel of a exercise bike, this should be a cheap form of exercise entertainment.
Provided you have a HMD to start with. So, for now, will be limited.
But one more reason to have one.

VRFitnessRoom(s) - VRTrainingRoom(s)
 
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360Selfies / SelfiesAR / VirtualSelfies / SelfiesVR / Immersive360


Apple's recently updated Clips 2.0 app now supports augmented reality 360° selfie scenes using iPhone X's TrueDepth camera system. You can even go aboard the Millenium Falcon and Mega-Destroyer! They've also added a bunch of new content including animated Disney stickers and posters.
 
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Added one new one

Xrlens.com from drop
 
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Back from 2 weeks in Belize and Guatemala. What I miss? Did Apple release their AR glasses yet? I sure have some catching up to do in this thread!
 
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Back from 2 weeks in Belize and Guatemala. What I miss? Did Apple release their AR glasses yet? I sure have some catching up to do in this thread!
Not much happened, some trustworthy sources mentioned Apple will announce their AR glasses/headset in 2019 and start shipping early 2020. Also some nice VR sales from what I can remember.
 
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Back from 2 weeks in Belize and Guatemala. What I miss? Did Apple release their AR glasses yet? I sure have some catching up to do in this thread!
What the heck were you doing there fella... Boy, I wish I knew you were going. I could have used some photos of a few things I bet you were close to. LOL
But ya know even in 2 weeks, you can't miss much with this stuff.
 
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360Selfies / SelfiesAR / VirtualSelfies / SelfiesVR / Immersive360


Apple's recently updated Clips 2.0 app now supports augmented reality 360° selfie scenes using iPhone X's TrueDepth camera system. You can even go aboard the Millenium Falcon and Mega-Destroyer! They've also added a bunch of new content including animated Disney stickers and posters.
Hey man .......Vidfie.Com
 
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Yesterday I read a couple of pessimistic articles on the future of VR, or at least one is very pessimistic and the other is realistic but would be considered pessimistic by some here :

https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/26/this-vr-cycle-is-dead/

https://medium.com/@janhorsk/is-vr-finally-dying-24381ea96c93

Unlike some of you (apart from GilesColey and one or two others), I remember the 3D TV hype all too well. It's illuminating to refer back to the early days of the Namepros 3D thread :

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-official-3d-showcase-and-discussion.644496/

That thread dates from 2010 but there was an earlier one that was actually deleted by the moderators because all it consisted of was domainers trying to convince other domainers why names like 3D-KayakSurfing.de were going to be worth $xx,xxx for certain. When that later 3D thread started, it was full of sceptical heads trying to keep a lid on things. In other things, we've almost come full circle it seems. When 3D hype was all the rage, it was the policy of NamePros to delete a thread that was entirely showcasing and hyping bad 3D names. Seven years later, the naysayers of 3D (at least in the form they were discussing at the time) have been proven entirely right, and yet today VR and tech threads that DON'T consist entirely of showcasing bad names and hype get deleted (or posts do), and VRDommy has had to set up this thread almost as a 'sin bin' for us foolish sceptics who like to actually discuss the pros and cons of each tech and whether the hype surrounding them is justified.

On the second or third page of the 3D thread somebody makes the comment that 'technology has no relation to the value of domain names'. I wonder what exactly has changed? I guess it was the success of cloud names a few years ago? I mean, I think that was the first and still the biggest case of a new tech generating large numbers of sizeable domain sales?
 
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Yesterday I read a couple of pessimistic articles on the future of VR, or at least one is very pessimistic and the other is realistic but would be considered pessimistic by some here :

https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/26/this-vr-cycle-is-dead/

https://medium.com/@janhorsk/is-vr-finally-dying-24381ea96c93

Unlike some of you (apart from GilesColey and one or two others), I remember the 3D TV hype all too well. It's illuminating to refer back to the early days of the Namepros 3D thread :

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-official-3d-showcase-and-discussion.644496/

That thread dates from 2010 but there was an earlier one that was actually deleted by the moderators because all it consisted of was domainers trying to convince other domainers why names like 3D-KayakSurfing.de were going to be worth $xx,xxx for certain. When that later 3D thread started, it was full of sceptical heads trying to keep a lid on things. In other things, we've almost come full circle it seems. When 3D hype was all the rage, it was the policy of NamePros to delete a thread that was entirely showcasing and hyping bad 3D names. Seven years later, the naysayers of 3D (at least in the form they were discussing at the time) have been proven entirely right, and yet today VR and tech threads that DON'T consist entirely of showcasing bad names and hype get deleted (or posts do), and VRDommy has had to set up this thread almost as a 'sin bin' for us foolish sceptics who like to actually discuss the pros and cons of each tech and whether the hype surrounding them is justified.

On the second or third page of the 3D thread somebody makes the comment that 'technology has no relation to the value of domain names'. I wonder what exactly has changed? I guess it was the success of cloud names a few years ago? I mean, I think that was the first and still the biggest case of a new tech generating large numbers of sizeable domain sales?
I still see 2019 / 2020 as a magic number for most of our future domains so basically we need to hang onto portfolio for 3 more years so trimming is the secret to success
 
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Yesterday I read a couple of pessimistic articles on the future of VR, or at least one is very pessimistic and the other is realistic but would be considered pessimistic by some here :

https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/26/this-vr-cycle-is-dead/

https://medium.com/@janhorsk/is-vr-finally-dying-24381ea96c93

Unlike some of you (apart from GilesColey and one or two others), I remember the 3D TV hype all too well. It's illuminating to refer back to the early days of the Namepros 3D thread :

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-official-3d-showcase-and-discussion.644496/

That thread dates from 2010 but there was an earlier one that was actually deleted by the moderators because all it consisted of was domainers trying to convince other domainers why names like 3D-KayakSurfing.de were going to be worth $xx,xxx for certain. When that later 3D thread started, it was full of sceptical heads trying to keep a lid on things. In other things, we've almost come full circle it seems. When 3D hype was all the rage, it was the policy of NamePros to delete a thread that was entirely showcasing and hyping bad 3D names. Seven years later, the naysayers of 3D (at least in the form they were discussing at the time) have been proven entirely right, and yet today VR and tech threads that DON'T consist entirely of showcasing bad names and hype get deleted (or posts do), and VRDommy has had to set up this thread almost as a 'sin bin' for us foolish sceptics who like to actually discuss the pros and cons of each tech and whether the hype surrounding them is justified.

On the second or third page of the 3D thread somebody makes the comment that 'technology has no relation to the value of domain names'. I wonder what exactly has changed? I guess it was the success of cloud names a few years ago? I mean, I think that was the first and still the biggest case of a new tech generating large numbers of sizeable domain sales?

The naysayers were correct in saying 3D TV was not going to be huge as some of us thought it would, they were also trying to stop people regging 100s and even 1000s of 3D related names. I don't think I ever owned more than 20 3D names and I let about 10 drop, sold 5 and still own a few names (3DChannel.com etc) I did come out well on top in the 3D niche, but it didn't do nearly as well as I hoped. The 3D niche is picking up again thanks to VR, AR, 360 videos, 3D Printing etc so the better names still have value. A lot (most of them) of the 3D posters lost every cent they put into the niche.
 
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Mobile took 20 years to explode, mobile phones was around 80’s, it wasn’t until late 90’s/early 00’s everyone started to get one and last 10 years with the birth of the smartphone where it’s become like an extra limb to people.

If the internet was like it is now in the 80’s/90’s how many negative articles with be written about mobile? How many negative articles would be written about the internet itself?

Virtual tech is the next big thing, there’s no doubt in my mind about that as it’s just a natural progression, problem is right now it’s just not good enough and too expensive and too goofy looking.

My honest opinion, all these terms like XR/MR is making things even more complicated and bad for the industry, but you know we’ll get there eventually, Virtual Reality (VR) is not going away though, as that’s what it’s been called for half of century as that’s exactly what it is ‘a Virtual Reality’.

Terms like Mixed/Extended/Extra/Hyper/Merged/Holo, whilst we may see some sales with these terms eventually as they are relevant, especially if you have the best keywords, overall they are all a load of nonsense in my opinion as far as defining a whole industry.

But you know i could be wrong, no one knows for sure! If i did i certainly would not be typing how it's going to be on here, I'd be keeping it all to myself, trying to tie up the best domains.

Way i look at things (as far as domains is concerned) is if you believe in something do it, don't be led by someone else's opinion though, which some domain investors easy are.
 
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The naysayers were correct in saying 3D TV was not going to be huge as some of us thought it would, they were also trying to stop people regging 100s and even 1000s of 3D related names. I don't think I ever owned more than 20 3D names and I let about 10 drop, sold 5 and still own a few names (3DChannel.com etc) I did come out well on top in the 3D niche, but it didn't do nearly as well as I hoped. The 3D niche is picking up again thanks to VR, AR, 360 videos, 3D Printing etc so the better names still have value. A lot (most of them) of the 3D posters lost every cent they put into the niche.

I made a big profit from my 3D names too, so no regrets for me. I have Channel3D.com btw. I probably first told you that seven years ago, lol.

I still have a few good 3D printing names too. Looking at the Namebio list I just saw that Buy3DPrinter.com sold for $14,000 3 years ago. I was actually considering dropping my Best3DPrinter.com a couple of weeks ago but decided to renew. Phew!
 
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Yesterday I read a couple of pessimistic articles on the future of VR, or at least one is very pessimistic and the other is realistic but would be considered pessimistic by some here :

https://techcrunch.com/2017/08/26/this-vr-cycle-is-dead/

https://medium.com/@janhorsk/is-vr-finally-dying-24381ea96c93

Unlike some of you (apart from GilesColey and one or two others), I remember the 3D TV hype all too well. It's illuminating to refer back to the early days of the Namepros 3D thread :

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-official-3d-showcase-and-discussion.644496/

That thread dates from 2010 but there was an earlier one that was actually deleted by the moderators because all it consisted of was domainers trying to convince other domainers why names like 3D-KayakSurfing.de were going to be worth $xx,xxx for certain. When that later 3D thread started, it was full of sceptical heads trying to keep a lid on things. In other things, we've almost come full circle it seems. When 3D hype was all the rage, it was the policy of NamePros to delete a thread that was entirely showcasing and hyping bad 3D names. Seven years later, the naysayers of 3D (at least in the form they were discussing at the time) have been proven entirely right, and yet today VR and tech threads that DON'T consist entirely of showcasing bad names and hype get deleted (or posts do), and VRDommy has had to set up this thread almost as a 'sin bin' for us foolish sceptics who like to actually discuss the pros and cons of each tech and whether the hype surrounding them is justified.

On the second or third page of the 3D thread somebody makes the comment that 'technology has no relation to the value of domain names'. I wonder what exactly has changed? I guess it was the success of cloud names a few years ago? I mean, I think that was the first and still the biggest case of a new tech generating large numbers of sizeable domain sales?
Rather interesting view and thanks for taking the time to post it.
I don't like the comparison of 3D TV to VR for you need to have been behind the scenes of the market to fully understand why it did not proceed.
For it would have, if not for major players pulling the rug out from under it.
But the tech continued to manifest itself and is how VR re-surged itself !
Current VR is built from where 3D TV left off. Only now it was truly fully stereoscopic.
I never went deep with 3DTV names.
Just a few but I knew 3D as a visual tech itself was not going away. I still hold many names.
If you know anything of the history of visual tech, you know that if it makes it better for entertainment (top of which is adult) it will find it's way to the market. People will buy it.
I remember quite clearly how video tape changed everything. Did it really disappear... no... it evolved into DVD and then streaming media. There will be more people watching iMax 3D movies with their HMD over the next 3 years than probably any other single thing.
All steaming from the net.
OK... so you won't call it 3DTV but that is what it is !
The names have changed to protect the guilty !


I was early on the play's with 3D and VR. But remembering that VR was a thing once that never appeared in the real market, many of the names were still held by those that knew it was only a matter of time and technology would advance enough that something more spectacular could be delivered at a fair price.
When I search for names, I always use a method that shows me the reg date of the name when it has been taken. Valuable fast info with your research. Many of those names were reg'd 5 years before and 3-8 years ahead of my looks.
And that is how I knew that 'the best' VR names were held long before I and others started looking by 2010.
I had many on drop watches. And picked some up.
So you are left with finding the niche's that will be popular enough to drive a high level of need for names to represent it. And wait for most alternative names to be used up or overpriced to have value for what you hold.

? 'technology has no relation to the value of domain names' ?
True !
The need for a 'individual name' brings value and competition for it brings more value.
The 'riches' of those in need say something about what level it is likely to play.
But we lump the high need of individual cases together and think of 'the tech'.
Something we can not determine yet with new media formats.
But I bought most of my names with expectations of resale in the $900-2500 range.
I'm not greedy. But I do hope for more on many.

I should be remembered most down the road for trying to lower those hyped expectations
(and taking a lot of flack for it.... LOL).
Yea... I guess you could call this a sin-bin but I think of it as the home of the domain misfits.
Most of us don't seem to fit the expected mold. (think 'starfish and coffee' - prince)

But truth be known on the formation of this thread...
It was a rejected post from the VR thread on the day Intel announced 'ALLOY'.
After my post within a hour of the news release,
It created a flurry of posts on the thread that were moved here later that day and I just sorta refused to post anymore 'things' in that thread when it may be moved or deleted.
I found no benefit for a discussion that can not transpire
just for the mere mentioning of a term like holodeck or teleporter etc.
So here I sit. Promoting the idea that all 'new media' talk is welcome here.
Even those that I do not agree with. You never learn from what you do not hear.
So it became the dumping ground for rejected posts from the VR thread and some others.

What say misfits ? LOL - One of my infamous tiring eyeball posts.
 
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I still have several 3D TV names such as 3DTVP*** and I wont be dropping them. There seems to be some progress with glasses free 3D TVs, and the coming 8K screens will help too. https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/12/mit-solves-a-major-problem-holding-up-glasses-free-3d-tvs/

Actually, I don't know as much about the mechanics of VR headsets as you do, so I wonder if 'glasses free 3D' screens (stereoscopic, not lightfield or 'holographic') would significantly reduce headset sizes? I mean I assume that current VR headset displays are essentially 3D glasses with the screens showing side by side video an inch or whatever behind them? That's certainly what the Gear VR and cardboard is (with the wearer inserting the smartphone as the screen). So surely dispensing with the 'glasses' part of the headset would reduce the size by quite a bit?

I agree and disagree with your statement that any tech that improves entertainment will become the standard. Yes it's true but it's not so clear to me that VR in its present form is an improvement any more than 3D TV was really an improvement on 2D TV. Yes a real 3D TV would clearly be better but what we were given was a stereo 2D TV that creates a really quite primitive illusion of 3D (and required you to wear glasses that prevented multi-tasking). And VR today is simply immersive stereo with 180/360 head motion tracking. That is an improvement on 3D TV but is it an improvement on reality? That's what VR really has to compete against. Augmented reality is much more of a sure thing, because as long as the 'augmented' stuff is useful or entertaining, then it's better than reality. That's not hard to do because it's simply adding to reality rather than attempting to provide a complete alternative.
 
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My honest opinion, all these terms like XR/MR is making things even more complicated and bad for the industry, but you know we’ll get there eventually, Virtual Reality (VR) is not going away though, as that’s what it’s been called for half of century as that’s exactly what it is ‘a Virtual Reality’.

Terms like Mixed/Extended/Extra/Hyper/Merged/Holo, whilst we may see some sales with these terms eventually as they are relevant, especially if you have the best keywords, overall they are all a load of nonsense in my opinion as far as defining a whole industry.

Can't find the link but I read an article on VR and AR today in FORBES and the writer was using the term 'Digital Reality', LOL.
 
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Can't find the link but I read an article on VR and AR today in FORBES and the writer was using the term 'Digital Reality', LOL.
Dr reality seen that one a few times doctor reality may replace mister reality dr v mr hmm not a fan
 
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I still have several 3D TV names such as 3DTVP*** and I wont be dropping them. There seems to be some progress with glasses free 3D TVs, and the coming 8K screens will help too. https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/12/mit-solves-a-major-problem-holding-up-glasses-free-3d-tvs/

Actually, I don't know as much about the mechanics of VR headsets as you do, so I wonder if 'glasses free 3D' screens (stereoscopic, not lightfield or 'holographic') would significantly reduce headset sizes? I mean I assume that current VR headset displays are essentially 3D glasses with the screens showing side by side video an inch or whatever behind them? That's certainly what the Gear VR and cardboard is (with the wearer inserting the smartphone as the screen). So surely dispensing with the 'glasses' part of the headset would reduce the size by quite a bit?

I agree and disagree with your statement that any tech that improves entertainment will become the standard. Yes it's true but it's not so clear to me that VR in its present form is an improvement any more than 3D TV was really an improvement on 2D TV. Yes a real 3D TV would clearly be better but what we were given was a stereo 2D TV that creates a really quite primitive illusion of 3D (and required you to wear glasses that prevented multi-tasking). And VR today is simply immersive stereo with 180/360 head motion tracking. That is an improvement on 3D TV but is it an improvement on reality? That's what VR really has to compete against. Augmented reality is much more of a sure thing, because as long as the 'augmented' stuff is useful or entertaining, then it's better than reality. That's not hard to do because it's simply adding to reality rather than attempting to provide a complete alternative.
Most of the glasses-free-3D are not true stereoscopic. They are just plays at tricks to the eye/brain that mostly give the appearance of something climbing off the screen. But in 'most' instances of the term,
It does not even represent the perception of depth. But might be able to.
I still have gogglefree3d and had some others that I dropped a few years ago when I realized that VR was going to make most of the tech worthless by compare.
It may still have some use in AR tech. But I just don't see it having much gravity.

However, nearly the same time, I seen the use of direct 'retina projectors' being the preferred route in the end. Whenever the tech/costs gets that far.
And Yes, I later bough the names when I though it might happen.
They have been in R&D for nearly a decade that I know of. They sat on my short list for about 2 years before reg'n them in 2013.

It's not that these tech's are not here now. It's just the cost to produce something that small and energy efficient with low heat are to high. So you really need a breakthrough in 'production tech' for the specific needs of the devices. It is the end game though.
To have a accurate retina projector, you need just as accurate eye tracker if you are to use it in a normal fashion. Most of the AR-ware projects to a translucent plastic or glass that reflects to your eye and only tracks head movements to change the FOV. But a RP needs to change the FOV with eye movements.

Anyway, who knows what breakthroughs someone is working on now. Just have to make your bets for the future and see how they pan out. Someone may make some good use of those glasses free 3d tech.

But know that the RP or VRD (virual retina display) is what is suppose to make Magic Leap so magical.
It is why I started paying attention to them back in 2012. But see it as more of a sham 'for now'.
Cost,Size,Weight,Heat and computing power required in a small space.
Anyone claiming success needs to break those barriers. It most likely will be in 4-8 years.
 
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