Holo vs VR vs MR vs AR vs any other reality (All realities)

[VRdommy]

Intel Project Alloy - A Must Read
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3108...first-open-source-third-party-vr-headset.html

The pace of change with new VR product designs is about to increase exponentially.
And while this is one thing to move that along, it's not the only thing.

...MORE...
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/intel-project-alloy-vr-ar-merged-reality

 

[Winfluence]

Can't wait to have this baby this Friday...

 

[Levi_charlz]

Talk about playing it safe, very underwhelming.

 

[Winfluence]

This may give an excuse for other corps to take their sweet time with the AR headset race next year...

I hope ML sticks with it's plans to release beta next year...or was that just a rumor?

 

[Winfluence]

It's worth noting that Samsung will likely give the 8 cameras updates so that they can do all that portrait stuff that Apple spent probably 30 minutes talking about lol..It's just software.

 

[Kingslayer]

Talk about playing it safe, very underwhelming.

Yeah felt as though i wasted 2 hours watching that as I'm not really a Apple fan, so not all that bothered about any new Apple products, just wanted to see some Augmented Reality.

They never mentioned it as much as i hoped and the AR demo they showed wasn't all that exciting or anything new.

Still a lot of eyes was on that event, so more people will now know what Augmented Reality is than before it started which can only be a plus.

 

[Winfluence]

Yeah felt as though i wasted 2 hours watching that as I'm not really a Apple fan, so not all that bothered about any new Apple products, just wanted to see some Augmented Reality.

They never mentioned it as much as i hoped and the AR demo they showed wasn't all that exciting or anything new.

Still a lot of eyes was on that event, so more people will now know what Augmented Reality is than before it started which can only be a plus.

The AR demo was basically identical to the one they had at the previous keynote with WingnutAR lol...What was the point?

 

[capiche]

I agree. The whole presentation was sort of 'meh' for me. I know that they have big things planned for AR, but why not touch on that more, besides just mentioning it.

I was expecting to see, AR maps, with overlaid directions while walking down the street, or something along the lines of using AR as a utility.

I guess we can all be glad that TIm Cook, didn't say anything about Pokémon Go, once again.. lol

(Or at least not that I saw)

AR has a big future, it's undeniable. But give us a little more to chew on.

 

[KoolKat]

I agree. The whole presentation was sort of 'meh' for me. I know that they have big things planned for AR, but why not touch on that more, besides just mentioning it.

I was expecting to see, AR maps, with overlaid directions while walking down the street, or something along the lines of using AR as a utility.

I guess we can all be glad that TIm Cook, didn't say anything about Pokémon Go, once again.. lol

(Or at least not that I saw)

AR has a big future, it's undeniable. But give us a little more to chew on.

What upsetted me the most was the amount of time and freakin energy they spent on FaceID and building a neural network and the machine language. All that to unlock the phone. The tech will def have future AR implications but damn. Give a dog a bone to chew as you say. All I wanted to see was a suite of 3 or so killer AR apps to accompany the damn phone.... that's it! But I'll take the global buzz. One thing for sure.... Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs.

 

[capiche]

^
Amen

 

[Winfluence]

Tech moves slower than in the minds of an eager, speculative, future obsessed domainers...apparently...

We are way ahead, reading about stuff the general public does not know about yet. We are living in the future. Apple and other companies, while planning for the future know that there are segways into AR that present much opportunity to make money. They know that in between flagship moments x amount of people are going to by the iphone model in between and to not take advantage of this would not make their investors happy. Add a little feature here and there and call it a new iphone...that is how they make money. They probably have the tech to make AR glasses that would blow our minds, but why not give it to the fan boys slowly so they can make money along the way.

This is how tech makes money....This is why domaining takes patience...and lots of money for renewals lol...

 

[xr reality]

Apple event started at 3am here in Australia time so there is a lot to take in with this event overall it was great to see a company like apple promote AR it was a very big day for apple with the following products new watch , new phone , new theatre and 10th aniversary of the iphone so to get ar mentioned on that very busy platform was great . It was always just going to be a small piece of a big puzzle and today was a great start for AR .

 

[Type-In]

https://www.thedomains.com/2017/09/12/sedo-weekly-sales-led-wmp-com/

Just reporting:

AugmentedReality.ch 2,990 EUR

 

[VRdommy]

To all of those that may have been disappointed in Apple's show & tell...
What were you expecting? The foundation has been laid and it's time for the dev's to get to work.
Great content does not come from the hardware manufactures.
Think of when the Oculus DK1 was introduced.
But just remember, Apple did not create that hype that disappointed you.

A successful product needs many more things than just a good piece of hardware.
You must wait for all the pieces to fall in place.

But this still leaves the AR Glasses rumor mill open for speculation.
And that is a distinct possibility in a year or less.

I think the new AppleTV may hold additional secrets in capability. We shall see.

But I was not disappointed... Just wish there was more, ...It all takes time.
Apple does need to test that face scanning tech and other new 3D features in the real world before it goes the next step. You can be overwhelmed trying to refine/correct to much at once.
Fundamentals first. A building is only as strong as it's foundation.

 

[Manusakos]

I think the new AppleTV may hold additional secrets in capability. We shall see.

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[cordoba]

To all of those that may have been disappointed in Apple's show & tell...
What were you expecting? The foundation has been laid and it's time for the dev's to get to work.
Great content does not come from the hardware manufactures.

Apple does need to test that face scanning tech and other new 3D features in the real world before it goes the next step. You can be overwhelmed trying to refine/correct to much at once.
Fundamentals first. A building is only as strong as it's foundation.

Yeah, I wasn't disappointed at all. I had no expectations of AR Glasses at this stage. Apple are not Google - launching a product with no tired and tested content that would/will require massive social hurdles to overcome before people accept using it in public.

I'm just happy that the AR revolution is underway. In 2 or 3 years people will be ready to wear those glasses!

 

[Levi_charlz]

To all of those that may have been disappointed in Apple's show & tell...
What were you expecting? The foundation has been laid and it's time for the dev's to get to work.
Great content does not come from the hardware manufactures.
Think of when the Oculus DK1 was introduced.
But just remember, Apple did not create that hype that disappointed you.

A successful product needs many more things than just a good piece of hardware.
You must wait for all the pieces to fall in place.

But this still leaves the AR Glasses rumor mill open for speculation.
And that is a distinct possibility in a year or less.

I think the new AppleTV may hold additional secrets in capability. We shall see.

But I was not disappointed... Just wish there was more, ...It all takes time.
Apple does need to test that face scanning tech and other new 3D features in the real world before it goes the next step. You can be overwhelmed trying to refine/correct to much at once.
Fundamentals first. A building is only as strong as it's foundation.

Very true, and all very interesting really to see the face scanning tech packed into a space small enough to fit into the rim of a pair glasses, incredible tech with amazing AR potential.

Totally understand why they don't mention tech under development, people would be be reluctant to buy if they knew what was coming next.

Personally, I wanted to see a mobile wireless piece of tech capable of both AR and VR. The current hardware with a few tweaks could of easily accommodated that but I'm guessing having a bulky nerdy looking headset is obviously not the image Apple want to go for.

 

[MetaverseBranding]

Well I think there we're enough mentions of AR to still consider it a positive result for people invested in AR.

It's also been quite nice to see people who are considered mixed reality obsessed stay respectful to those invested into AR.

I hope the same will happen if a future mixed reality event happens that doesn't quite live up to the hype

 

[VRdommy]

Back to the SPECULATION...
I will only add that this tech will be a hackers paradise. Eventually, not right away.
By the time everyone realizes what I have been saying about it, it will be to late.
It's just a Pandora's box waiting to be opened. Just like Transunion, It only needs to happen once.
'Mind Your Head', Your Wallet and mostly, Your Biometrics, cause it's all related.... ...nuf a that,
I watch as the Apple's Peal !

But I still think the iPhoneX makes a attractive phone for VR development and more so with the idea that the majority of them are running the same OS and will function the same.
It becomes more attractive for dev's since they don't have so many variations of hardware and software possibilities as is the case with Android devices. But that issue does show for AR as well as VR.

And for some additional speculation ...
Nothing stopping Apple from making a open platform for a plug-in pair of glasses or goggles much like MS did with WMR. They only need to create a standard of operating parameters in it's use and allow the hardware dev's to create and compete for it.

But in the broader sense, I see nobody really putting up a competitive fight for that market with the exception of Microsoft. I have seen nothing to suggest that MagicLeap is any closer than 2 years from a retail unit.
But there are a few AR glasses out there (hololens like) but lack the supporting platform that makes them great in ease of use and have much to offer in the line of content. That problem comes from the lack of support from software dev's. To capture their attention, you must have the potential to sell to the masses so a development has the potential to sell in numbers. So, It's a big boys game for now.

 

[cordoba]

Very true, and all very interesting really to see the face scanning tech packed into a space small enough to fit into the rim of a pair glasses, incredible tech with amazing AR potential.

Yes, I think this and the real-time face tracking is what impressed me. Maybe it's because it was presented as being useful for 'animated emojis' is what caused the let down, but I'm sure we all can see the implications for this in both AR and VR.

Yeah, kids are going to be having a lot of fun with it in the next year, but in 3 years this tech will be creating photo-realistic avatars for real-time gaming/chat/xxx etc. in virtual worlds (both AR and VR).

 

[Manusakos]

Yes, I think this and the real-time face tracking is what impressed me. Maybe it's because it was presented as being useful for 'animated emojis' is what caused the let down, but I'm sure we all can see the implications for this in both AR and VR.

Yeah, kids are going to be having a lot of fun with it in the next year, but in 3 years this tech will be creating photo-realistic avatars for real-time gaming/chat/xxx etc. in virtual worlds (both AR and VR).

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[Levi_charlz]

I'm hoping we will see more mainstream advertising from some of the big VR players to stay in the race now Apple have picked up the ball. Maybe in the run up to Christmas the AR/VR race will heat up. Obviously different ball games, but they are competing for the same cashola.

iPhone8(x) or VR System (PSVR/Xbox) from Santa?

 

[xr reality]

https://medium.com/@johnhanke/did-we-just-glimpse-the-future-of-augmented-reality-3a859d9f89e2

Interesting article on how the future of ar is viewed

 

[NamesBond]

What
upsetted me the most was the amount of time and freakin energy they spent on FaceID and building a neural network and the machine language. All that to unlock the phone. The tech will def have future AR implications but damn. Give a dog a bone to chew as you say. All I wanted to see was a suite of 3 or so killer AR apps to accompany the damn phone.... that's it! But I'll take the global buzz. One thing for sure.... Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs.

I actually think the AR/VR implications of being able to essentially scan a face in 3D are pretty dramatic... Sure, at first its use may be limited to biometric security for your phone, but this same tech can someday be utilized to create "life like" avatars, as well as scan real "objects" around you... (e.g. once you place "real" objects into virtual and augmented space, from a mobile device, this begins to have incredible implications for retail, service, and other areas of commerce... Just think what a full 3D "body" scan could do for online dating alone! ) So, IMHO, not as much of a "meh" moment as might appear at first blush... (Although, if I'm being honest, I was kinda waiting for those AR glasses to be hinted at during the "And one more thing" segment... Well, can't have everything...)

 

[KoolKat]

"The tech will def have future AR implications but damn."

I do not disagree. The implications are big for VR and AR. Like most people... something just seemed lacking with the meal you know. Would have been great to introduce something on the utility or services end of the spectrum- with all the use cases in design, retail, guides, training, education, beacon, iot, education, the list is long etc etc... and the world knows animojis and talking poop lol. I honestly think the 3D scan feature is a bit buggy that's why they didn't implement any add-on software or features to it. Keep it simple like @VRdommy mentioned. But the the future uses for that technology once perfected is going to be game-on Apple!

I wasn't expecting AR Glasses but I think we should keep an eye on the cellular Apple watches as a segway perhaps as a future UI/gesturing unit?

 

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