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It DOESN'T look better!
You guys are convincing yourself of things not true. Delusional is the first word that comes to mind.
First the AVERAGE consumer knows nothing about ANY of these extensions. NOTHING!
When/if they do, it will be a handful and you may be very old and very BROKE!
Secondly, when used, does not look like a url. Looks like a typo!
Third, you MUST put "www" before the new gtld's so it does not look like a typo and folks KNOW it is a url. They don't NOW! Don't be lazy.
Fourth, .com is to the Internet like the 800 number is to the phone.
Fifth, .com is the single most advertised THING in the history of mankind.
Been writing about the pitfalls for 6 YEARS! Too many to list.
But most importantly, you are wasting VERY valuable time chasing shadows and shiny objects.
I wish you all the best!
What do you really know about gTLDs? Last I read your investments were in the dot-com realm. And although I'm sure they have paid off for you, it does not mean we live in a word of absolutes because of your successes.

While I can appreciate your patriotism to a TLD that was released over 30 years ago, it is incorrect to assume there nothing more to domain names other than what your experience is.

Lets go over a couple of your points:

1) The average consumer knows more and more everyday. But people like you try to bury innovations you're not vested in.
2) It looks like a type? Really? It's only a typo if it is a typo.
3) Using WWW in your url is quickly becoming outdated. This is another old world habit. Nothing wrong with it, but it's just a waste of space. Plus IMO most new G's look far better without it.
4) Agreed.
5) Agreed.

Anyone that says not to depend on gTLD investments as a primary source of income, I completely concur. There is also a much bigger risk factor. Many of the rules (or lack there-of) are hazy. But most of us are aware of this, all common knowledge.

Properly combined, there are many better looking domains in a gTLD capacity than there are in the traditionals. Looks can kill, and if you have it you can be sure it will turn heads, as well as wallets.
 
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The world is changing all the time and so the people. Younger generations are/will learn in the school that Internet is everything right of the dot now. More and more younger entrepreneurs will ask themselves why it should be .com right of the dot, while itself .com has no inherent value besides its legacy as one of the first extensions being introduced and as such so heavily promoted. More and more start-ups and new businesses will be using ngtlds, and some of them will be Fortune 500 companies some time, let alone hundreds of thousands of smaller ones. Imho ngtld revolution will come from the bottom. Now we see brick and mortar businesses fading slower or faster, and the same thing will happen with dot-com imho. Dot-com will be first among equals, it is so evident.
 
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The world is changing all the time and so the people. Younger generations are/will learn in the school that Internet is everything right of the dot now.

delusion+ wishful thinking

people don't learn about domains at school and even if they were to learn about them they would only learn the status quo, .com, .net .org

why would a school have any interest in teaching fringe extensions.?

Also do you have time to wait for generations for your investments to pay off?
More and more younger entrepreneurs will ask themselves why it should be .com right of the dot, while itself .com has no inherent value besides its legacy as one of the first extensions being introduced and as such so heavily promoted.

no domain extension have any inherent value, it's a popularity contest not a beauty contest.

what is used is valuable. the new extensions are worthless because no one uses them.

since they are 20 years late and no better why would they disrupt the marketplace?

More and more start-ups and new businesses will be using ngtlds, and some of them will be Future 500 companies some time, let alone hundreds of thousands of smaller ones. Imho ngtld revolution will come from the bottom.

companies have been using .net and org and .info for years. it never changed anything.

Now we see brick and mortar businesses fading slower or faster, and the same thing will happen with dot-com imho. Dot-com will be first among equals, it is so evident.

there is a big difference between brick and mortar which is an outdated model compared to e-commerce and new TLD vs .com they are mostly the same with the new extension not having a significant advantage over the old ones.

.com is better because you know immediately that you are seeing a domain while word.word is not as easily recognized as such.

short 1 word .coms are even better because you can not make 1 word domains with the new TLDs, except word.xyz etc.

home.brand is not better than brand.com don't kid yourself. It is not a real alternative.
 
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What do you really know about gTLDs? Last I read your investments were in the dot-com realm. And although I'm sure they have paid off for you, it does not mean we live in a word of absolutes because of your successes.

While I can appreciate your patriotism to a TLD that was released over 30 years ago, it is incorrect to assume there nothing more to domain names other than what your experience is.

Lets go over a couple of your points:

1) The average consumer knows more and more everyday. But people like you try to bury innovations you're not vested in.
2) It looks like a type? Really? It's only a typo if it is a typo.
3) Using WWW in your url is quickly becoming outdated. This is another old world habit. Nothing wrong with it, but it's just a waste of space. Plus IMO most new G's look far better without it.
4) Agreed.
5) Agreed.

Anyone that says not to depend on gTLD investments as a primary source of income, I completely concur. There is also a much bigger risk factor. Many of the rules (or lack there-of) are hazy. But most of us are aware of this, all common knowledge.

Properly combined, there are many better looking domains in a gTLD capacity than there are in the traditionals. Looks can kill, and if you have it you can be sure it will turn heads, as well as wallets.

I know that I lost more money in gTLD's then anyone has made with them other than registries. So I paid my dues and learned.

Not here to burst your bubble, just have some of you folks get a grip on reality.

The AVERAGE consumer could not name 10 extensions with a fully loaded gun to their head.

gTLD domains will be FORCED to used the OUTDATED WWW to define their url AS a url because they look like TYPOS not head turners.

I have 6 years of gTLD pitfalls I have written about and NOBODY has any answers to those pitfalls.

Lastly, they are already crumbling as we speak. No need. No want. No desire. No value and the gTLD's are 1.1 MILLION registrations down in April alone with millions more dropping very soon. Does not look like growth to me. Looks like a crash! https://ntldstats.com/tld

I wish you well.
 
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delusion+ wishful thinking

people don't learn about domains at school and even if they were to learn about them they would only learn the status quo, .com, .net .org

why would a school have any interest in teaching fringe extensions.?

Also do you have time to wait for generations for your investments to pay off?


no domain extension have any inherent value, it's a popularity contest not a beauty contest.

what is used is valuable. the new extensions are worthless because no one uses them.

since they are 20 years late and no better why would they disrupt the marketplace?



companies have been using .net and org and .info for years. it never changed anything.



there is a big difference between brick and mortar which is an outdated model compared to e-commerce and new TLD vs .com they are mostly the same with the new extension not having a significant advantage over the old ones.

.com is better because you know immediately that you are seeing a domain while word.word is not as easily recognized as such.

short 1 word .coms are even better because you can not make 1 word domains with the new TLDs, except word.xyz etc.

home.brand is not better than brand.com don't kid yourself. It is not a real alternative.


Excellent post and addresses each point. They can't make a rational argument against. It is an emotional argument based on wishful thinking. Good job!
 
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Ironically, the world has been moving away from .com, but toward ccTLDs (I've said it so many times). There is no future for new extensions, they will remain oddities at best.

The majority of domainers have never used a nTLD for a real life, consumer-facing business. Tasting your own medicine should be a mandatory step prior to soliciting end users :)

New extensions aren't doing well, after just 3 years setbacks are numerous and huge drops are coming ahead. But .com (aka AM radio) is alive and kicking thank you, sorry for those who bet on the wrong.horse :)

To answer the original question, I can't think of a good example, unless you add www at the start of the string, because it looks like a slogan instead, like make.believe (Sony) or booking.yeah. Many people will not even realize booking.yeah could be a real URL.
Corporations are not going to do the legwork for the registries and educate consumers for no benefits.
Their interests and those of registries do not align.
Release .delusion and domainers will buy it :)
 
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delusion+ wishful thinking

people don't learn about domains at school and even if they were to learn about them they would only learn the status quo, .com, .net .org

lol that was metaphor about school. But I think they do learn about Internet in school, many of them. Why would they learn about co/net/org only? According to such logic, people will never learn about anything new in school.

why would a school have any interest in teaching fringe extensions.?

Because it is very the purpose of school to teach all extensions, not legacy ones only.

Also do you have time to wait for generations for your investments to pay off?

I didn't say next generations, I said younger generations. Rick had time to wait decade until he sold some of his domains for fair amounts, why shouldn't we?

no domain extension have any inherent value, it's a popularity contest not a beauty contest.

No, it is beauty contest as well. ".com" is not beauty, what is "com" for ordinary people? "Commercial"? 99% of people maybe don't know "com" is for "commercial". But, say, ".bank" is beauty. 100% of people will recognize that "bank" is for bank.

what is used is valuable. the new extensions are worthless because no one uses them.

THAT is delusion. Lots of end users are using them. And as I believe, ngtld "revolution" will come from the bottom.

.com is better because you know immediately that you are seeing a domain while word.word is not as easily recognized as such.

It is changing right now and will change further to much higher extent.

short 1 word .coms are even better because you can not make 1 word domains with the new TLDs, except word.xyz etc.

home.brand is not better than brand.com don't kid yourself. It is not a real alternative.

I agree that one word .com domains are very often better than ngtlds, especially if they are niche ones. But keyword.keyword ones are very often look much better than keywordkeyword.com
 
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gTLD domains will be FORCED to used the OUTDATED WWW to define their url AS a url because they look like TYPOS not head turners.

Why not. Hundreds of millions of Internet users still use desktops and type "www".

Lastly, they are already crumbling as we speak. No need. No want. No desire. No value and the gTLD's are 1.1 MILLION registrations down in April alone with millions more dropping very soon. Does not look like growth to me. Looks like a crash! https://ntldstats.com/tld

The reason for "crash" is domainers. It was very hard to believe that end users all of sudden will buy millions of ngtlds from domainers. Also it was obvious that domainers will prefer quantity over quality if selling for pennies.

I think if we were able to follow only end user registrations, we would have seen steady growth.
 
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I know that I lost more money in gTLD's then anyone has made with them other than registries. So I paid my dues and learned.

Not here to burst your bubble, just have some of you folks get a grip on reality.

The AVERAGE consumer could not name 10 extensions with a fully loaded gun to their head.

gTLD domains will be FORCED to used the OUTDATED WWW to define their url AS a url because they look like TYPOS not head turners.

I have 6 years of gTLD pitfalls I have written about and NOBODY has any answers to those pitfalls.

Lastly, they are already crumbling as we speak. No need. No want. No desire. No value and the gTLD's are 1.1 MILLION registrations down in April alone with millions more dropping very soon. Does not look like growth to me. Looks like a crash! https://ntldstats.com/tld

I wish you well.
I just wonder..how can one loose money in new gTLDs? I do not really get it..

To explain my question: when I register a good name like, lets say, virtual.fund, I feel it has value, but I also know that it might take few years to sell it. One reason is that new gTLDs are very new, so there is still lack of end user awareness, but we also know it is improving and more and more end user are actually using new gTLD names..it is easy to follow it, as one can use Alexa 1 mil to see exactly how many developed sites are there for each extension, so we can see the progress. If site is nicely developed and is ranking in Alexa 1 mil, we can say that end user uses it, I suppose. So we see a progress here, some gTLDs are doing fantastic (like .online, for example), some are progressing slowly, some are purely pathetic. But end users are developing new sites on gTLDs everyday.

So how can one loose money in new gTLDs? By loosing money, you mean that you have registered some gTLD names, and then not renewed them? As this can be the only explanation. Imo, if you registered great names, and keep it after 1 -2 years of holding, this certainly can not be named "loosing money" .. as even for some great .coms, it took lot of years to sell them..so why to give up on new gTLDs so soon? :)
 
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What is funny, IMHO, is that critics of ngtld program are actually making it stronger.

Ntld program no doubt has many ugly sides, lacking of price caps being one of them. As consequence and because it is free market, ntld operators have to take into account the criticism coming in large part from domainers. As consequence, ntld operators lower registration fees, cut premium renewals, act in many innovative ways etc, thus making huge number of quality ntlds more affordable for domainers. It will result in more registrations of higher quality ntlds (even if just one year bet), as such to more end user sales, as such to more renewals and more awareness among domainers, as such to more registrations.

I wish Mike Mann and Rick be more negative about ntlds so ntld operators will have to make renewal fees very close to .com renewal fees :) This will help ntld program a lot.
 
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Ironically, the world has been moving away from .com, but toward ccTLDs (I've said it so many times). There is no future for new extensions, they will remain oddities at best.
Major changes in the global trade system are taking place right now. After years of US led globalization, China and other rapidly expanding non-Western economies are significantly altering the global power and economic structure. The global middle class has displaced the Western middle class as the driver of global economic growth. As a result, the median Western consumer does not drive corporate bottom lines anymore, but rather it is the upper income segment in Western countries, along with the emerging world middle classes that do so (incomes in Asia have increased fivefold in the last half-century while Western median income has barely increased at all during the same period).

While .COM will always remain king globally, the increased activity in cctlds (thanks in part to fast-growing economies that often do not use .COM, and, as is relevant to most domain investors on this forum, English language domain brands) and the stagnation of many western economies that have been the driver of .COM domination could have decentralizing effect on .COM dominance in the long term.

Of course .COM will always be the number one extensions and premium names will remain in demand and continue to fetch ever-higher prices, but the “bread and butter” sales (English language .COM domains in the sub-$3000 range) that companies like huge domains and buy domains, and most domainers here on NP deal in could see a decline in demand as these global changes unfold.

However, it's important to note that these changes have NOT caused an increase in demand for new gtlds (never was a demand for them, never will be one), and the demand is still for .COM, and to and increasing extent the cctlds. The general public is just never going to adapt to a domain landscape where domains end in thousands of .WHATEVERS. And with many confusingly similar extensions, a complete lack of awareness of these as actual domain extensions outside the domain industry, registry reserved names that carry a ridiculous “premium" price tag, premium renewals, crazy renewal hikes (Uniregistry), email sending issues, and lots of other issues that you don't have to deal with in the .COM extension, means that the new gtlds have no chance of ever succeeding. The entire new gtld space is just too confusing and messy. Whenever I see the new extensions used on advertising posters, without www. in front of them, even I (a domainer) struggle to recognize them as domain names. No ngtld domain names look better than .COM, because nobody recognizes that KEYWORD.KEYWORD is actually a domain name. There is just no precedent for it. Show 10 people on the street KEYWORD.COM, and they will all be able to tell that it is a domain name. .COM is a universally recognized code word for "domain name" and none of the new gtlds are ever going to reach that level of recognition.
 
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I will quote from a great book- that speaks to the issue that is being pointed out by one of the most successful investors in Domaining, that posted on this thread. I sent him an email once about brokering a name, and I was surprised actually to receive a reply, he was kind enough to do that and tell me he was not interested, rather than simply ignoring it. He also is kind enough to share his experience here with the defense of these gTLD's. It's difficult for anyone to remove their ego from a bad investment. So we all tend to defend this sort of thing- look at all the lack of promotion that the newTld's have had- had millions of dollars been spent on marketing them, perhaps they might. But they are confusing to the public. The general public might understand- Maybe... in 20 more years.

The book is "The 22 immutable laws of Marketing": "Violate them at your own risk"

Rule 3: "It's better to be first in the mind, than first in the marketplace" = the new TLD's are in direct violation of this rule. .Com is first in the mind, AND first in the marketplace. But go back to Rule number 1- "It's better to be first, than it is to be better". .COM was first, and remains there. The books points out "who was the 2nd person to fly across the Atlantic?". Nobody remembers that. Maybe now you can use
G o o g l e though to find out, but probably not. It's like who cares. Who was the first?, those who are educated know the answer and it is actually a good candidate for Jay Leno's "Jaywalking" spoof he used to do that no longer exists. The general public is not very intelligent.

The rest of this small inexpensive 130 page succinct book, is really worth reading.
 
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Those that want to argue to win, can win. Go win the argument. I don't care.
But you will lose the battle by ignoring reality.

Because it is very the purpose of school to teach all extensions, not legacy ones only.

That's LOONY! You really think THAT is the VERY purpose of school?

Everything you argue is based on wishful thinking and what others will learn and do. It's not coherent or based on how the real world works.

Same behavior as the IDN guys did. They all crashed and burned too. Where are they now? GONE and BROKE! Of course "I" was the idiot for not buying their KOOL.AID. They drank it and went broke. Cheers! lol
 
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5ginter.net

It's a not a gtld but sometimes domains don't need to be always ending in .Com to be recognised as a link.

VRSOCIAL.MEDIA has only been registered a couple of days and already I've had 3 offers. Not quite what I would let it go for, but I have hope.

All it takes is a some big company with a loose pocket to change things for these gtlds.
 
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Those that want to argue to win, can win. Go win the argument. I don't care.
But you will lose the battle by ignoring reality.

Reality is recently I registered XXXXXmedia.com and put it for sale at Sedo with very affordable BIN. Same day I had a visit to Sedo offer page and same day someone registered XXXXX.media with $40 annual renewal.

Also reality is banners of websites build on ntlds that I watch here in my city.

That's LOONY! You really think THAT is the VERY purpose of school?

LOL yes. When I was at school, then at university, I was given insight into various existing theories, or opinions, or trends, for my topic, not only into "status quo" ones. I think all schools/universities teach the same way.

Everything you argue is based on wishful thinking and what others will learn and do. It's not coherent or based on how the real world works.

It is based on human nature, desire to innovations, creativeness etc. which is reality.
 
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Those that want to argue to win, can win. Go win the argument. I don't care.
But you will lose the battle by ignoring reality.



That's LOONY! You really think THAT is the VERY purpose of school?

Everything you argue is based on wishful thinking and what others will learn and do. It's not coherent or based on how the real world works.

Same behavior as the IDN guys did. They all crashed and burned too. Where are they now? GONE and BROKE! Of course "I" was the idiot for not buying their KOOL.AID. They drank it and went broke. Cheers! lol

Hello Rick, it is pleasure to see you commenting on namePros!

I got big respect for you.

Yet, I think some of the new gTLDs have more potential than .com`s

I thought you were promoting a new gTLD on your twitter account don`t you? - .web


Do you say you won`t invest a penny on a .web ?

For the thread share:

I own Jerusalem.Tours & Shanghai.Catering & Miami.Golf & Cultural.Tours & Brake.Center & BlackFriday.Reviews which I find better than .com extension.
 
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It DOESN'T look better!
You guys are convincing yourself of things not true. Delusional is the first word that comes to mind.
First the AVERAGE consumer knows nothing about ANY of these extensions. NOTHING!
When/if they do, it will be a handful and you may be very old and very BROKE!
Secondly, when used, does not look like a url. Looks like a typo!
Third, you MUST put "www" before the new gtld's so it does not look like a typo and folks KNOW it is a url. They don't NOW! Don't be lazy.
Fourth, .com is to the Internet like the 800 number is to the phone.
Fifth, .com is the single most advertised THING in the history of mankind.
Been writing about the pitfalls for 6 YEARS! Too many to list.
But most importantly, you are wasting VERY valuable time chasing shadows and shiny objects.
I wish you all the best!
Couldn't have put it better myself
 
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1) The average consumer knows more and more everyday. But people like you try to bury innovations you're not vested in.

That's just a cheap low blow pal!
People like ME are better than condescending and presumptuous people like YOU!

Want to do a "People like you thread"? Grow up!
Stop thinking you are so smart you know motivations and intentions for ME or ANYONE.

I have gTLD's, cctlds, and alternate extensions probably older and longer than you have been a so-called "Domainer".

Now back to business.

I EXPLOIT innovation, I am an opportunist.
An opportunist looks for opportunity.
I don't care what form or flavor or medium opportunity comes in.
As an opportunist I recognize RAT HOLES vs OPPORTUNITY.
gTLD's are RAT HOLES.

But you have every right to piss away YOUR MONEY anyway you like. Just be careful you don't help others piss away theirs.
 
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