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Last week, 19 year old Erwan Kina (@ErwanKina) made an announcement that his investment group will be acquiring over $20 million worth of domain names in 2016, with their focus being on buying short .COM domains. Why are they putting so much money into domain names this year? Who are these investors? What plans does the group have for their acquisitions?

We find out the answers to these questions and much more in this exclusive first interview with Erwan in which he reveals that his group has already bought over $2.5 million worth of domain names in 2016.


NP: Can you tell us about yourself and how you came to be involved in domain names?

Erwan: I’m French, and I’ll be 20 years old next month. In January 2015, I was really not happy in my law school in Lyon, France. I was motivated not to spend the next 7-8 years of my life working on something I didn’t like to have a degree I didn’t want. I’ve decided to stop my studies in order to start a new entrepreneurial project. I was able to do so because I made some money a year before by hosting parties in the best night clubs of my city while I was still in high school. I knew I had about 6 months before I had to start making a living with my new project.

I’ve had the great idea to Google "how to make money online" and on the bottom of a list I read was "Sell websites and domain names." That’s how I discovered the top 100 reported sales of all time, and I was fascinated. My dream was always to negotiate these kinds of deals. So I told myself, "this business is for me; don’t quit until you are number 1." At that time, I had the choice between becoming a football (soccer) player agent, like Jorge Mendes, or a domain expert. I chose domaining because we don’t need any licenses to start.

I have to thank Ali Zandi (@Zandibot) too. I saw this guy made himself six figures in six months after discovering the domain name industry. From that point, I knew I had no excuses. Hard work, hard work, hard work, and a lot of perseverance.

Today I’m blessed to work full-time with my great partners. I’m learning so much with them. We have already made great deals. We will keep winning every day!


NP: We noticed that you now have a $20 million fund to buy domain names. Is this from one investor or several?

Erwan: Honestly we believe we will acquire more than $20M of domains in 2016; this is just the start. It’s the amount we are sure at 100% we will at least invest.

One of my partners, Sharjil Saleem built a worldwide network of really big players over the years with G. Chang. He’s from Dubai, and other partners are from China, UAE, and Germany. We will meet to discuss our next goals several times during the year. Our next meeting is scheduled in February in Dubai. All the investors are domain experts.

I’m in charge of finding the best opportunities and closing deals. I will also broker our best domains very soon. Sharjil was my best client a few months ago. We made awesome deals. He then offered me the opportunity to cooperate more seriously with the network he had built. In any business, you have to find a guy who can help you improve yourself every day. The right mentor shows you how to perform and you can win big from it. In return, you have to invest yourself at 100% for the success of your group.

(Editor's note: The credibility of Sharjil Saleem has been called into question and caution may be warranted.)


NP: What type of domain names are you currently acquiring?

Erwan: Only .com and a few types of .net (very short .net). In .com, we invest in short domains, LL to LLL, and some 4-Letter Chips too.

The new goal is to acquire about 20 3-Letter .com domains at fair prices. We are also still buying some 4-Letter .com Chips. We will acquire some 4-Letter .net Chips, too. This year we’d also like to have more LL.com domains in our portfolio. Very soon, we will put one of ours for sale.


NP: Can you reveal any of your recent acquisitions and their prices?

Erwan: We never report our acquisitions, but I will keep NamePros informed when we put our best domains up for sale. So you will have an idea of our portfolio. For January, we're focused on acquiring huge names. In February, we will start making money.

In 2016, we have already invested more than $2.5M.


NP: Do you plan on holding these domain names, or will they be resold quickly?

Erwan: Some are meant to be kept a while, while others we are motivated to close deals in the short term.

We have no problem waiting for the right offer for our domains. We will never sell in a rush. We prioritize end-users, but we have no problem selling to a domain investor if we think we can make a good deal.

We see and appraise a lot of domains every day and if the price is more than fair, we will buy. We don’t necessarily have a time schedule for each domain, but we are confident they will sell sooner or later for a profit.


NP: What percentage of the domains that you'll buy with the $20 million do you expect to sell to end-users vs other investors?

Erwan: We first and foremost focus on potential end-users. If we have no active leads, then we are happy to deal with an investor as long as we make some money.


NP: Do you expect to make a profit on every domain you purchase or do you expect a few big sales to make up for the majority that may not sell for a profit?

Erwan: I always invest to win. "A penny saved is a penny saved." I take our investments very seriously. I want to be one of the leaders of this business for the next 5 years. To do so, I have to take calculated risks and make great investments for the guys who trust me. To sell, you need to believe in what you offer, so you need to believe in what you acquire in the first place.

Our strategy is to win on every decision we make.


Erwan: Thanks for the interview. For anyone interested, I can be reached on NamePros and LinkedIn.

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Thanks to Erwan for taking the time to speak to us. It sounds like it's going to be a very big year for him and his group of investors in terms of both their acquisitions and sales, so expect to see domain sales from this investment group being revealed in the near future.

Update on Jan 22, 2016: We thought we had a credible source when this article was first published, but we've been unable to verify it with 100% certainty. We will do more research and provide updates.

Update on Aug 21, 2016: The credibility of Sharjil Saleem has been called into question and caution may be warranted.
 
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Really quick reply as I'll have the opportunity to publish a more complete update by the end of the week:

My business is 100% legitimate. Now I understand it can bother a lot of you that a "kid" is making a 5 figures monthly salary 1 year after I started studying the market with absolutely $0 to invest and no connection. I'm not bragging, anything is achievable in life, by anyone.

The truth is it's 4:30 in the morning here in France and I'm still studying/working/networking for my future and my family. I work about 14-16 hours a day and love any minute of it.

@BoothDomains, who is Maike.com ?? He's not the owner of the numerics, this information can be easily verified by anybody. I don't know if it's James or Andy behind this account. If it's James let me remind you that 1 week ago you sent me an email saying you and your brother were going to tell everybody I was a joke and you accused me for something completely ridiculous. I've sent you proofs that you were completely mistaken, you quickly apologized. No problem, it happens.

But now it's the second time. Next time, a skype call will be fine :) so I don't have to spend 10 minutes here writing this post.

I appreciate the high interest some of you guys have to know more about my story <3.
 
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Many of us are aware of almost any $10000+ worth domain name ownership change so it is not a good idea to try to fool us.

Lol. Actually, most of the members on here are not aware of "almost any" (almost all, I think you meant to say) sales over $10,000 because the majority of sales, at that level, are subject to NDA.

As for it not being a good idea to "fool" you, why does it matter that much to you anyway?!.. Is deception, if that is what he has done, any different than you putting up a BMW badged logo as your avatar? (so that people think of you as being more authoritative or credible than you are).

It is illegal to do this, by the way, unless you have BMW's permission to reproduce their logo, and i'm guessing that you don't have that...

In any event, Erwan has not responded to this issue as yet - give him time to do that, ok?
 
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In any event, Erwan has not responded to this issue as yet - give him time to do that, ok?

Didn't he respond above #126 and but didn't address questions being asked IMO. Works 14-16 hours per day but complains about posting nothing really that took him 10 mins..

I was born at night but not last night! ;)
 
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Unfortunately the number of frontrunners, sharlatans and imposters have increased over the past years with so many new folks joining the Domaining game and trying to find a shortcut to quick riches.. stories like these are going to become the norm i am afraid..
 
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where disappeared 50M boy? No fairy tales anymore?
 
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We want to acquire at least 100 4L.com chips in the next 48 hours at $1900 each. Shoot me a message if interested, cheers!
 
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Good luck, @ErwanKina, Just a suggestion, get few hundred random LLLL.coms of better quality at their current floor prices of $300-400 range. 5-6 times difference from Chinese is too much of a difference and there is a big chance that the gap will narrow to 1/2-1/3 from 1/5-1/6 soon, just 2-3 month ago the gap was 1/8-1/10 range.
 
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Good luck, @ErwanKina, Just a suggestion, get few hundred random LLLL.coms of better quality at their current floor prices of $300-400 range. 5-6 times difference from Chinese is too much of a difference and there is a big chance that the gap will narrow to 1/2-1/3 from 1/5-1/6 soon, just 2-3 month ago the gap was 1/8-1/10 range.
Agree.
My business is 100% legitimate. Now I understand it can bother a lot of you that a "kid" is making a 5 figures monthly salary 1 year after I started studying the market with absolutely $0 to invest and no connection. I'm not bragging, anything is achievable in life, by
Only 5 Figures?
 
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Still have some budget for 4L.com chips acquisitions
Our budget is now $1985 for each, looking for 100 domains
[email protected]
 
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(Going to Dubai from 18 to 23/02 to sign some paperworks and build innovative DN related projects for the future, if some of you are in Dubai contact me so we can network there)
 
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Erwan, essentially all you are is a broker then? The $20m or $50m fund isn't a fund exactly is it. What you guys are doing is offering people money for domains then trying to find a buyer on the name and if fails you back out even when Escrow is set up. Sharjil has now done this several times to us and many others. Sharjil has asked me to get him an LL.com and asked for a contract. I provided him the contract, he backs out. He asked me to get his 2 NNN.com for 7 figures. I did this and pushed the owner down in price. Sharjil then backs out. He has also just backed out an one of our LLL.coms that you guys made an offer on and was in Escrow. But guess what, He backed out. I love the way you guys do business. It's so ethical. What you have here is a Chinese investor that has asked you to find them names. Do you have access to this $20m? I doubt it. I don't think you guys have a clue what is going on here with YOUR fund. First you tell everyone you have acquired 14 LLL.coms when in fact most are owned by fmhot and a few others.
There looks to be confusion between the two of you in terms of who’s in the fund, who’s not etc. I am guessing you are under the impression that fmhot was probably a partner of Gang Cheng, YOUR Chinese investor.
DXB.com is a friend of Sharjils so not in this fund either. You are just brokering the name.

It looks to me like you aren't sure of your role as of yet - Sharjil is your direct contact, and Sharjil is the one telling you what to buy, etc. Although you have not proved any large transactions from the fund, aside from the couple of low end LLLs.

Nothing about this is clear other than the fact you are brokers. Why not just stick to that instead of trying to BS so many people.
 
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$20M fund or not, this thread is entertaining.
 
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Nobody in the world is going to invest 20 or 50 mil in domains in one year :)
 
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3 Months Has been passed and @ErwanKina woukd you like to share with us any update about the purchase or sale you have made so far in 2016.
 
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wow 3 month

that 3 month were gone to fast ...
 
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3 Months Has been passed and @ErwanKina woukd you like to share with us any update about the purchase or sale you have made so far in 2016.
There is a saying i learned while living in the Villages of Bali from the elder farmers ...
{ Young rice stalks who stick there head straight up have nothing ,
those stalks who are laden with rice bow their heads to the ground with the weight of their
bounty having authentic humility .}

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Though i am open to NX-generation of young adults using anti-gravity technology / gravitons to create syntropic systems that have the unique ability to superimpose/merge macro and micro subatomic nano- advance interface systems within their bio life fields for unique abilities .
and in that case Abundant Humility would enter a new paradigm mindset .
The idea of superconductive intelligent kids being born who have that ability to bypass causality of the heaviness of earth gravity is a possibility but in this case maybe kindof not ..
 
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Though i am open to NX-generation of young adults using anti-gravity technology / gravitons to create syntropic systems that have the unique ability to superimpose/merge macro and micro subatomic nano- advance interface systems within their bio life fields for unique abilities .
and in that case Abundant Humility would enter a new paradigm mindset .
The idea of superconductive intelligent kids being born who have that ability to bypass causality of the heaviness of earth gravity is a possibility but in this case maybe kindof not ..
Hahahaha
 
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Though i am open to NX-generation of young adults using anti-gravity technology / gravitons to create syntropic systems that have the unique ability to superimpose/merge macro and micro subatomic nano- advance interface systems within their bio life fields for unique abilities .
and in that case Abundant Humility would enter a new paradigm mindset .
The idea of superconductive intelligent kids being born who have that ability to bypass causality of the heaviness of earth gravity is a possibility but in this case maybe kindof not ..

s*hit I wish I would understand it..

but glad you said it !
and I a..greed!!
 
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We want to acquire at least 100 4L.com chips in the next 48 hours at $1900 each. Shoot me a message if interested, cheers!

Good luck, @ErwanKina, Just a suggestion, get few hundred random LLLL.coms of better quality at their current floor prices of $300-400 range. 5-6 times difference from Chinese is too much of a difference and there is a big chance that the gap will narrow to 1/2-1/3 from 1/5-1/6 soon, just 2-3 month ago the gap was 1/8-1/10 range.

Well, if @ErwanKina did buy those 100 chips at $1900, that would mean loss of at least $30,000 since then.

The gap with better quality LLLL.coms has indeed shrank further now standing at 1/4-1/5.

And I do expect that after everything shakes out it will go to 1/2-1/3 at least, converging further.
 
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Looks like a 20 year old boy, with $20 million to buy domains, has a 20 year business plan.

Let's wait and watch guys, let's wait and watch.
 
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