The LLL.com sales report & discussion thread

[italiandragon]

We need this one too guys

This guide will also help LLLL.com holders to understand more the value of their 4 letters .com based on how expensive the similar 3 letters .com are.

From:

http://3character.com/priceguide.html

Pricing Guide for 3-Letter (Composed Of Letters Only) Domains:

Current Observed Minimum Wholesale Price (regardless of letter combo) as of February 1, 2008:

3-Letter .com - $6700 (+ $300 since January 1, 2008 report)

But I consider their guide a bit old since they are not taking in consideration the emergenging countries that appreciate other letters and as we have run a poll here several times lately, the majority of people consider the letters U
and W to be Premium letters.

Let`s have a look at some recent LLL.com sales as reported from NameBio.com :


nak.com $27,135 2007-12-22 SEDO.com
nyz.com $10,605 2007-12-19 tdnam
utw.com $10,100 2007-12-10 SEDO.com
via.com $157,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
cgf.com $14,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
vkx.com $6,200 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
mje.com $10,734 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
okf.com $8,500 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
our.com $60,000 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
kxr.com $7,101 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
lhg.com $13,613 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
wae.com $10,099 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
hya.com $7,499 2007-12-06 SEDO.com
yrd.com $9,100 2007-12-05 SEDO.com
vfk.com $15,750 2007-11-29 AfterNic.com
qee.com $10,882 2007-11-27 SEDO.com

 

[tonecas]

here is the auction cancelled for NAQ.COM.

however it has a new owner, and it is not the winning bidder. The domain was on-hold and the odds that the original owner come to renew it (and netsol accepted that) are so thin that the only explanation is a major fu**up.

I did not refresh my historical whois for this domain so can someone check if between 22/02 an 08/03 the domain show up with a owner different than the current (a company named StatPro for what it seems)?

regards,
tonecas

 

[silentg]

I see StatPro Canada Inc. listed as the owner.

 

[tonecas]

the dumb f*** let the domains go to redemption period and now recover them again. seriously, how incompetent can these guys be??

whois for vie.com

Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/
Status: redemptionPeriod

Expiration Date: 2012-04-12
Creation Date: 1995-04-11
Last Update Date: 2012-03-13

Registrant:
Pending Renewal or Deletion
P.O. Box 430
Herndon, VA. US 20172-0447


Domain Name: VIE.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Pending Renewal or Deletion Email Masking [email protected]
P.O. Box 430
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
US
570-708-8786


Record expires on 12-Apr-2007.
Record created on 11-Apr-1995.
Database last updated on 11-Mar-2012 11:37:28 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

PRI1.DNS.PSINET.FR
PRI2.DNS.PSINET.FR

 

[tonecas]

oni.com list for auction in less than 5 hours... surreal...

regards,
tonecas

 

[silentg]

Namejet has If You Don't Ask, We Won't Tell policy. We got to ask them WTF is going on with auctions each time.

 

[italiandragon]

Namejet has If You Don't Ask, We Won't Tell policy. We got to ask them WTF is going on with auctions each time.

One minute you see them, the next minute you don't.

 

[silentg]

Zut.com hit with UDRP > http://www.namepros.com/industry-news/752333-interbasic-holding-s-files-udrp-steal.html

 

[equity78]

AFW.com sold for $125,000 Go Daddy

 

[tonecas]

and low and behold: instead of entering a new auction, oni.com just came back to a new owner, not passing through the winning bidder ( AFAIK because nowadays you can easily get away with fake whois ).

Registrant:
New Ventures Services, Corp
ATTN ONI.COM
care of Network Solutions
PO Box 459
Drums, PA. US 18222


Domain Name: ONI.COM


Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
New Ventures Services, Corp [email protected]
ATTN ONI.COM
care of Network Solutions
PO Box 459
Drums, PA 18222
US
570-708-8780

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some info about these guys:

http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/sho...w-Venture-Services-Corp-amp-Network-Solutions


regards,
tonecas

---------- Post added at 09:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 PM ----------

on another note, seems that BEZ.COM has been also snagged up by the warehousers at Tucows.

it's very sad to see that Frank Shilling lets clients like these use his platform. I guess he is happy about these companies building up portfolios without any rights whatsoever to them and effectively making unfair competition on all of us...

just sad.

regards,
tonecas

 

[Kate]

In the past I have seen netsol quietly repossessing valuable names.
Godaddy used to do the same thing.

Enom also has an offshoot by the name of acquirethatname.

It's funny these companies don't seem to care about their reputation.
At least some are more open about it than others.
Regardless of legality and their terms that get them covered there is a huge conflict of interest. They have every interest that you lose your domain names, auctions are more profitable than renewals.
In other words, registrars are not trustworthy custodians for your domains.

 

[tonecas]

totally agree sdsinc, but the question with these guys is that they are using frank's platform. no other is doing that.

---------- Post added at 11:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:31 PM ----------

AFW.com sold for $125,000 Go Daddy

that name brings an interesting story:

www.advisorone.com/2009/06/10/investment-advisor-charged-in-6-million-theft

in this trend we have also SUL.COM, a domain that magically got renewed until 2019. I am eager to see if we will get it in an expired auction on NameJet...

http://www.patrickpretty.com/2012/0...-used-as-conduits-to-re-route-revenue-and-to/

regards,
tonecas

 

[tonecas]

so, so shaddy... oni.com is now in the hands of the original winning bidder

regards,
tonecas

 

[Ms Domainer]

sdsinc: ...registrars are not trustworthy custodians for your domains.

*

I totally agree here--I see a definite conflict of interest when domain registrars get involved in domain auctions for expiring domains.

Not enough transparency and no apparent watchdog to make sure that registrars act in the best interests of their registrants.

Make my words: if government(s) decide to intervene, it could get ugly for registrars.

*

 

[tonecas]

SnapNames:

xfh.com $5,349

regards,
tonecas

 

[betthelot]

Some interesting movement at 4.cn a large portfoilio holder is selling approx 100 LLL.coms for $5000 each and so far they have sold these. UK company selling Abstract Holdings International LTD.
zgb.com zfl.com zce.com zbf.com yxn.com yxa.com ykl.com yiq.com xya.com xwt.com xwo.com xwm.com xwl.com xpu.com xnr.com xhk.com xgz.com xgh.com xdk.com xdh.com xct.com xbz.com qcl.com pyj.com kcy.com jzk.com jxc.com
hzd.com hxz.com gze.com gzd.com gxu.com gxr.com exb.com dzl.com bxy.com kjh.com

I think they have just pitched it just right, in that they will all sell at that price and only on a Chinese platform would they have been able to.

More have sold since the above listed for $4,750
zxu.com zxd.com zxb.com zrz.com zny.com znh.com
zle.com zku.com zke.com zjf.com zfy.com zcb.com xsu.com xnf.com xkc.com qcj.com

 

[betthelot]

Today 4.cn
XRZ.COM $4,550 (28,500 rmb)

 

[rips5]

Today 4.cn
XRZ.COM $4,550 (28,500 rmb)

IT’s reasonable? I don't know someone want offer $XXXXX。

 

[betthelot]

Another 6 sold on 4.cn selling at an healthy clip
xhu.com xwa.com xzu.com yzi.com zkc.com ztu.com estimate $4,750

 

[tonecas]

Another 6 sold on 4.cn selling at an healthy clip
xhu.com xwa.com xzu.com yzi.com zkc.com ztu.com estimate $4,750

did they lowered the price or is just the usd/yuan?

regards,
tonecas

 

[betthelot]

yuan strengthened a little, plus was 3,000 RMB now 2,999 RMB bargin!

 

[tonecas]

NameJet:

(deleted)

the guys selling 100 LLL.com in 4.cn are moving them do NameJet for new fresh eyes.

regards,
tonecas

 

[tonecas]

NameJet not expired domain auction:

cqn.com $4,100

regards,
tonecas

 

[ZOX]

In the past I have seen netsol quietly repossessing valuable names.
Godaddy used to do the same thing.

Enom also has an offshoot by the name of acquirethatname.

It's funny these companies don't seem to care about their reputation.
At least some are more open about it than others.
Regardless of legality and their terms that get them covered there is a huge conflict of interest. They have every interest that you lose your domain names, auctions are more profitable than renewals.
In other words, registrars are not trustworthy custodians for your domains.

I absolutely agree...I've been screwed by GoDaddy this way.
Luckily not anything too valuable (i.e., no LLL.com drops)...

 

[silentg]

Sedo

cdz.com 6,499 USD
shx.com 5,000 USD

 

[.NJ]

the dumb f*** let the domains go to redemption period and now recover them again. seriously, how incompetent can these guys be??

whois for vie.com

Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/
Status: redemptionPeriod

Expiration Date: 2012-04-12
Creation Date: 1995-04-11
Last Update Date: 2012-03-13

Registrant:
Pending Renewal or Deletion
P.O. Box 430
Herndon, VA. US 20172-0447


Domain Name: VIE.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Pending Renewal or Deletion Email Masking [email protected]
P.O. Box 430
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
US
570-708-8786


Record expires on 12-Apr-2007.
Record created on 11-Apr-1995.
Database last updated on 11-Mar-2012 11:37:28 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

PRI1.DNS.PSINET.FR
PRI2.DNS.PSINET.FR

VIE.com is now listed for sale for a mere $300,000