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It just dawned on me that .mobi may be the biggest, most elaborate and well-funded, most contrived, well-thought out, bought into, successful and longest living hoax in history.

With all the major corporations, police stations, cell phone companies, search engines, et al. being swindled and tricked hourly, the ramifications are going to be huge!

It is going to be years and years before we get the full scope of the grift.

That damn .mobi :p
 
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Since this thread was about sarcasm and mobi...let me chime in finally.


Mobi is the hottest thing since sliced bread. It's gonna be bigger than the moon one day. One day every mobile phone will have a dotmobi default button and mobi will be BIGGER than dotcom. Every LLL.mobi will be easily worth $xxx,xxxx in just a couple years. I am gonna go out and get a second mortgage and register as many dotmobi's as I can and then post a new thread here for each one asking how much it's worth undeveloped but with such huge potential. I am gonna spend my entire day emailing large companies telling them about this great mobi world they are missing out on. It's like an entire new internet that people don't even know about yet. And every time a new mobi website is built...I am gonna post it so that we can all go ooh-ahhh to confirm what winners we really are. Man it feels good to be so cool and into mobi. I am gonna be a millionaire in about 2 weeks from mobi.

Enjoy.
 
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Told Ya It would get heated :red:

Folks - Lets please remember to be civil ;)
 
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pffff.... heated?


thats a joke, like he said.
 
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"Drink, ye domainers! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful mtld's bow- Death to .mobi! God hunt us all, if we do not register .mobi to its death!"
 
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Mark said:
Told Ya It would get heated :red:

Folks - Lets please remember to be civil ;)

lol...what? The second I make a post it's verified as heated? hehe ;) back at ya
 
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:laugh: Nah Jesse , I marked it as heated from minute 1

We've all got differing opinions , and we can dicuss them without slinging mud or calling names IMO - :p

As I've said several times - I hope the investments into Registrations and Purchases by all do pay off , But I fear it will be just another extension used for parking (Mobile Ready or not).

I think monetizing the one's actually developed (Not including one's Dev'd by Corporations) will be a bigger issue in the near future as well.
 
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Mark said:
I think monetizing the one's actually developed (Not including one's Dev'd by Corporations) will be a bigger issue in the near future as well.

I have this thread with at least SOME of the mobile ad companies providing monetization. It's not phenom YET, but again, if you think that a multi billion dollar industry is going to ignore the mobile market you're living in a fool's paradise...

I think / hope that I am like the many others here who have already made back their XXXX investment and are now developing sites.

Anyway, back to the joke :laugh:
 
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S-L-O-W said:
"Drink, ye domainers! drink and swear, ye men that man the deathful mtld's bow- Death to .mobi! God hunt us all, if we do not register .mobi to its death!"
"..as He did to those .tv reggers! He even made their prices outlandish, but still they bought and bought. And after a brief lull, they came back for more, not knowing or caring what the renewal fees would be!!! They just kept paying and screaming - Give me more .tv!!!"
 
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hawkeye said:
"..as He did to those .tv reggers! He even made their prices outlandish, but still they bought and bought. And after a brief lull, they came back for more, not knowing or caring what the renewal fees would be!!! They just kept paying and screaming - Give me more .tv!!!"
:hehe:
 
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italiandragon said:
Is .mobi mining the .com Empire already? Honestly I was thinking it would happened within 3 years....not this fast.
A visionary.

Your english? It's great.

Our Italian? It sucks!

Ciao!

italiandragon said:
Are we millionaire yet ?
I am already working on my second million.






















I gave up on my first.

The following thread contains a subject that is potentially volatile. Debate and heated discussions are okay, but do not post any messages that are obscene, threatening, rude, or insulting. Respect your fellow members!
This is the most hilarious part about the thread. I have never seen this.

Proof positive that y'all need parental guidance and aren't allowed out in public.
 
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keithmt said:
Biggest hoax in history? I thought that was religion! At least we can actually see our mobis.

keithmt
Well put ;)
 
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A new game coming to you soon via mobile HOAX! by Milton Bradley sponsered by well funded CEO's, and corporate conglomerates---coming soon via your handheld device on .Mobi!

:D
 
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Hoax or not "It doesnt matter", it is a valid extentsion (and an extension with a main purpose.) I don't regret buying and developing my .mobi names. And I will look for some more nice ones on the aftermarket soon.

:)
 
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italiandragon said:
then I`m not getting your no-sense complain about my threads, I know that my English is not perfect but besides a few jokes I do to keep me alive from boredom, well I think my question is legit.

I leave one day and when I come back there are 20 millions posts on .mobi pro and cons like in the beginning.....is it jelousy from .com holders or what?

Is .mobi mining the .com Empire already? Honestly I was thinking it would happened within 3 years....not this fast. But you know......com holders won`t give up to the reality of their shrinking .com daily visits.....
:kickass: :bingo: Your englis is just fine - keep it coming!
as for that .com rules hoax - Death by a thousand .mobis!!! :D

Scandiman said:
The name BofA has been in use long before the internet. It would be branding suicide to switch to the name of a snake.
Shart - you made me ink myself!
 
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Actually I'm starting to think maybe it's not a hoax at all.
 
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Hi guys,

I am kind of new posting in the .mobi thread, though I always watched the discussions here. I am somewhere in the middle, would not say that it is a hoax, but it is not the best thing since slice bread.

But we can all agree that .mobi still can fail. I do not say it will, but it has a chance to fail, as there are some external circumstances it depends on. If these will not be met, it won't go through.

Maybe I am a bit conservative, but .com will be always associated with the internet (at least for 20 years or so from now on), and I do not see that .mob will surpass it.

How can .mobi fail? because of the domainers, because of us. I just did a google check and found the following results:
6.180.000.000 results for .com
2.370.000.000 for .org
416.000.000 for .net
387.000.000 for .uk
162.000.000 for .de
52.900.000 for .eu
48.600.000 for .info
22.300.000 for .biz
3.010.000 for .cat
2.580.000 for .name
and
1.710.000 results for .mobi
Still it is in front of the very famous .coop that has 1.150.000 results, and .museum that has 427.000 google results.

While I do not say that these results reflect in any way the value of .mobi, it should draw attention toward the great need of developing .mobi.
The potential is enormous. But the current (high) prices of .mobi do not reflect its actual market value, but its potential.

It is a speculative business, and as some of you stated at the thread start, it is good to keep some and sell some now, because you do not know how things will turn.

I do not want to get in polemics, I just draw some facts. Best thing you should do for .mobi (and thus for you), would be to start developing them, put content in them. When mobile internet will be as common as PC internet was let's say two years ago, people will need content when they type in keyword.mobi, and will not say: woaw what a great idea .mobi is. Instead they will turn to already established sites (that may be mobile compatible without having the .mobi suffix).

You need to think with the users eye, not with a domainers' eye.

Best wishes,
Alex
 
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Maybe I am a bit conservative, but .com will be always associated with the internet (at least for 20 years or so from now on), and I do not see that .mob will surpass it.
you may not be old enough to remember it but i remember a day when if you asked a roomful of people whether they thought ford or gm or chrysler might go bankrupt, not a single person would raise their hand

it may well be that much of the backlash from the Mobi Truth Squad is related to the fact that mobi does pose a threat to dot com

many dot com's are going to wake up and find out the boat has left, in the case of mobi as a mobile tld there may be no other alternatives which will freak out dot com

porn.com didn't sell at last auction, it's very possible that dot com is peaking and they are getting a little nervous

we still have dot asia to go next, that's yet another dilution of dot com's strength
 
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.com will not fall as king -- however, it will weaken eventually.

:imho:
 
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nombre said:
1) it may well be that much of the backlash from the Mobi Truth Squad is related to the fact that mobi does pose a threat to dot com

2) many dot com's are going to wake up and find out the boat has left, in the case of mobi as a mobile tld there may be no other alternatives which will freak out dot com

3) porn.com didn't sell at last auction, it's very possible that dot com is peaking and they are getting a little nervous


:D OMG ! :laugh: - Can I have some of what you are smoking ? :blink:


#1 - It doesnt pose a threat ... It might one of these Decades , But I DOUBT it

#2 - What Boat ? Does it have Life Rafts for all of you ?

#3 - .com has not Peaked in sales/use/domination , The entire Corporate World is just now starting to wake up ..... They've been paying for PPC ads for all these years - and could have just bought a few decent generic .com's related to their Industry and would Be done spending money.



This thread is Fun ~

:laugh:
 
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I think that porn.com sold for $9 millions, but correct me if I am wrong.
nombre said:
porn.com didn't sell at last auction, it's very possible that dot com is peaking and they are getting a little nervous

What I see here in the mobi forum, is that people do not think as regular internet users, they think solely as domainers, and the figures I pointed there are clear. .eu that launched the same year as .mobi has 20x times more indexed pages in google! I'm not saying that eu is stronger than .mobi, but that .mobi is purely a speculative tld, and the value of .mobi sales is not reflected in their real current value. And that the lack of .mobi sites is a threat to .mobi.

I really do hope that everything will be fine with .mobi, and you will make a good deal with your domains though.

Alex
 
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alexsimon said:
I think that porn.com sold for $9 millions, but correct me if I am wrong.
You are wrong...

It was 9.5 million.

I think a couple of very relevant facts left off your previous list is .cn and .in.

You are getting ready to see some whooper numbers in the next year or so regarding these ccTLD's, especially the .cn.

It may be inconceivable to most, but China declares that they want more .cn in the world than .com. They will achieve this goal.

After the 2008 Beijing Olymics, look for China to mandate to all citizens and businesses in China to stop using the .com. They are already instituting this with all government institutions.

The internet is about to become the most fractured and unstable mess you have ever seen. China wants and will get its own language usage in the form of IDN. This is closely followed by India.

How anyone can choose to ignore the two most populated countries on earth expressing their desire that their nations' ccTLD become mainstream along with their native script and language is beyond me. You can not ignore this push. Neither can their populations. One is more of a democracy than the other but both are world leaders in commerce.

So add .in and .cn to your list. And check this on a weekly basis.

Where does .mobi fit in? I guess you would have to stop asking the 30-50 mobi people on this forum and ask the 4 billion or so cell phone users. I think that is what the major banks, airlines, auto manufacturers, credit card companies, and other fortune 500 companies are doing at this moment...reach out and touch someone via the mobile.

The numbers presented are terribly misleading. Take one company, BMW. European, world wide well established firm.

Check each extension listed. Then list where that extension ends up.

The results may be surprising. But not surprising to some.

This is what makes companies successful. Having the right marketing plan and strategy. This is what makes leaders in the industry. Why are some extensions developed and why some simply redirected?

You would have to ask why not and why waste money reaching the same market and customers on the same format by repetitiveness. Redirecting is the simplest and most logical solution, not to mention cost effective.

You mention approaching this as domainers. Let's approach this as consumers. You are at your computer. You want some information. How long to you wait for a page to load before you get frustrated and move on? Mere seconds. Businesses know this. At least the smart business who do marketing studies and focus groups.

These same industry leaders know that the frustrations encountered when trying to navigate a site are also very prone to losing viewers who are would be potential customers.

Now take those same concerns...slow load pages and difficult navigating sites...and miniaturize it to fit a smaller screen.

But then there is another market...the small portable handheld device. Why not give them what they want and need? Easy to navigate, fast loading, information rich content.

I could be completely wrong in all my market studies and assessments. But facts as presented in the run down of extensions does little to give a true and accurate picture of the health of the industry. I own now close to 3200 domains. Most are parked. How many of those in the numbers reflected are actual stand alone sites? Sure, dot com is healthy, sales are brisk, it is not going anywhere. But when countries start demanding change in the industry and begin to dictate to their own populations what to use then I think that should be cause for some concern.
 
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nombre said:
you may not be old enough to remember it but i remember a day when if you asked a roomful of people whether they thought ford or gm or chrysler might go bankrupt, not a single person would raise their hand

it may well be that much of the backlash from the Mobi Truth Squad is related to the fact that mobi does pose a threat to dot com

many dot com's are going to wake up and find out the boat has left, in the case of mobi as a mobile tld there may be no other alternatives which will freak out dot com

porn.com didn't sell at last auction, it's very possible that dot com is peaking and they are getting a little nervous

we still have dot asia to go next, that's yet another dilution of dot com's strength

You might want to get a new set of friends to poll. Most people you ask don't understand corporate bankruptcy. Many companies file for bankruptcy protection including just about every major airline out there. They are STILL in business and still making a TON of money. Marvel Comics is a great example of a company rising out of bankruptcy. 5 years ago they declared bankuptcy...today they are a powerhouse of intellectual property being used in todays hottest movies.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MVL&t=5y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=


btw...you are right..porn.com didn't sell at the last auction and they were asking 7.5 million and I think the bidding hit 7 million...but guess what...6 weeks later they found a buyer for 9 million. So much for your theory on .com.
 
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You might want to get a new set of friends to poll. Most people you ask don't understand corporate bankruptcy. Many companies file for bankruptcy protection including just about every major airline out there. They are STILL in business and still making a TON of money. Marvel Comics is a great example of a company rising out of bankruptcy. 5 years ago they declared bankuptcy...today they are a powerhouse of intellectual property being used in todays hottest movies.
it has nothing to do with their potential bankruptcy, it has to do with the arrogancy that accompanies the idea that any business model or any company won't someday fail

there are lot's of market forces challenging dot com, mobi is one, asia is another, the high cost of dot com is another

i'll borrow a phrase from another np'er here and say that it's _possible_, (i would say probable) that dot com will start to stumble just exactly as detroit has finally started to go down the crapper

mobi may be a bigger gamble but it's a better bet
 
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nombre said:
it has nothing to do with their potentail bankruptcy, it has to do with the arrogancy that accompanies the idea that any business model or any company won't someday fail

there are lot's of market forces challenging dot com, mobi is one, asia is another, the high cost of dot com is another

i'll borrow a phrase from another np'er here and say that it's _possible_, (i would say probable) that dot com will start to stumble just exactly as detroit has finally started to go down the crapper

mobi may be a bigger gamble but it's a better bet

IMO, anything can fail, given time.

Hydrogen technology may one day bankrupt my oil investments... One day, we'll likely be able to transfrom chemical elements cost efficiently driving down the prices of gold, platinum, palladium. What about the ever higher quality of "synthetic" diamonds? Will high end auto makers (i.e. Ferrari) go bankrupt when jets start to crash in price? How will Ford, Gm, etc compete with foreign automakers in the future which don't pay such high wages?

There are alot of questions and not alot of answers (same way with .mobi at the moment). All we can do is wait. There's insufficient information at this time to make conclusions about the future of hydrogen, as there is .mobi...

edit: Best advice really is to invest what you can afford to lose and hope for the best :)
 
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My best advice, see that every one is giving the same advice over and over, is not to give or take advice.

I see clearly that the discussions are no longer beneficial and one side continues to attempt to convince the other side.

Don't even take my advice. To each his own.

If there is a shred of educating anyone, monitor global trends and markets and usage for the internet in the present and upcoming 1-2 years. Do independent research and study and market analysis. I have attempted to pass this one to everyone but it does not seem to be sinking in.

Such as this:

The sheer size of the PC industry limits its growth rate, but the yearly worldwide sales will grow by over 80% in the next six years—from 134M in 2002 to nearly 249M in 2008 or a 10.9% compound annual growth rate. The number of PCs in-use surpassed 500M units in 2000 and will reach 1.17B units by year-end 2008. Cumulative PC sales topped 1B units in 2002 and will top 2B in 2008.

A new market study from Portio Research predicts that 50% of the world's population will be using a cell phone by the end of 2009, and Africa now boasts the fastest growth rate in the world, forecast to add 265 million new mobile subscribers over the next 6 years.

Among the top 25 growth markets ranking list (2006-2011) there are a few surprises. India wins the top spot, just ahead of China, and almost equally in 3rd place are Brazil, Indonesia and Nigeria, but the real surprises start in 6th place with the U.S. mobile market tipped to grow by almost 66 million net additions from the start of 2006 to the end of 2011. This puts volume growth in the U.S. ahead of fast developing markets such as Pakistan, Mexico and the Ukraine. Russia is positioned lower than some may expect, in 11th place, below Iran and Bangladesh, while Japan appears in 18th place, with a predicted 14 million net subscriber additions by 2011, surprisingly placing above South Africa and Venezuela.

While Western Europe and the U.S. will see 50%+ subscriber penetration of 3G by 2011, the Asia Pacific region will see only 35%, albeit with 1.06 billion subscribers by 2011, making this the largest regional 3G market in the world.

- U.S. offers more room for growth than Russia, and Japan offers greater future growth than South Africa.
- The number of mobile subscribers worldwide reached over 2 billion by the end of 2005, and is predicted to rise to 3.96 billion by 2011.
- The Asia Pacific Region will account for 50% of the total number of subscribers worldwide by the end of this decade with a staggering 1.067 billion subscribers shared between China and India alone, the world's two biggest mobile markets.


Both of the above referenced studies were done in 2005. Current estimated world population is at 6,605,046,992.

It is estimated that there is already nearly 3.5-4 billion cell phones in use today. This is far ahead of the predictions that 50% will have a cell phone by 2009.
 
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