.tv PRICES - Which direction are they going?

I see a constant increase in received offers. For example on Saturday I countered to a low X.XXX offer received. It's a good sign that, even if I consider it a lowball offer, it was directly in the X.XXX range.
Parking revenue is a little bit lower but traffic is growing. One of my parked domain started to make about 150 visits a day (no backlink).
So I'm very positive, expecially because the trend seem very natural to me.

With about six weeks left in 2010, domain sales in dollars are more than four times 2009 levels - but I'm not specifically talking about .TV. In my prior four years in domaining I had only had one domain sale over $1000. This year I have had four sales over $1000 with several others at $995. However, one must note I have a decent sized portfolio which means considerable carrying costs. Up until recently most of my larger sales were .COM domains with .Net sales typically being $250-$299. I have noted an increase in the number of reported .TV sales and had been wondering when a few would come my way. Well, I have seen some .TV interest over the last several weeks - a couple of inquiries, a nice affiliate commission on a .TV domain at Smartname, my third-largest domain sale of all time, another .TV sale in process, my older .TV sites are starting to rank better, etc. But again, I have a large .TV portfolio, so the activity I am seeing is still relatively small compared to the number of domains I own. Hopefully the increase in activity I have seen in recent weeks will carry into 2011.

Jimbojimbo said:

We've all seen the rather constant write-ups of increasingly bigger and more frequent VERIFIABLE sales in DN Journal and among the sales threads here.

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Really?

Take dnjournal last week for example,

One .tv sale listed for $2000.
The week before two sales, one 10k the other $7,500.
The week before that two, one $1500, the other $1,000.

There is hardly a constant flow of bigger and more frequent verified sales, Things are far quieter than 6 months ago and I think getting back to the previous level where there was 1 or 2 .tv sales reported each week.

snoop said:

Really?...

Things are far quieter than 6 months ago...

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snoop said:

Really?

Take dnjournal last week for example,

One .tv sale listed for $2000.
The week before two sales, one 10k the other $7,500.
The week before that two, one $1500, the other $1,000.

There is hardly a constant flow of bigger and more frequent verified sales, Things are far quieter than 6 months ago and I think getting back to the previous level where there was 1 or 2 .tv sales reported each week.

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Does anyone miss jeff :gl::lol::wave:

evirtual1 said:

Does anyone miss jeff :gl::lol::wave:

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At least today's comment isn't copied and pasted from someone else.

Instead of your usual off track commentary, how how about some debate about the actual topic based on data (what direction are prices going in)? Is that too difficult?

Where are prices going like they are uniform ? Like the price of Oil or copper ? Makes no sense for this discussion IMO. Each name is unique, I have sold (not mine, but brokered) 5 names in the last six weeks from $3000 to $9000. I posted a couple like photographer and photographers, one for $9000 was to a UK firm, funny thing it was the only .tv the guy owned. They asked for the name not to be disclosed, for that they paid $500 more as the original agreement was for $8500.

As much as people like to make comments all over the domain blogosphere, domains are not like physical real estate from a uniform standards practice, and a lot of other issues. They are not like stocks because they lack liquidity and only one person can own Domain.com, anyone can own stock in Google.

Its an individual, subjective business with no uniform anything IMO. The only domains that can be categorized for group analysis are the commodity names such as NNNN.com and LLL.com and that is on a pure wholesale valuation.

How are prices going ? Well Jimbo had auctions and many others did, most did not have the same success as Jimbo, so his prices were headed in one direction while some others did not move. Vito and RPK have done well with their auctions over the last month and a half. Now the others may have different valuations, different goals for their names. So again its the individuality, and does not matter how much you know the extension or the industry its all unique. Again IMO

snoop said:

At least today's comment isn't copied and pasted from someone else.

Instead of your usual off track commentary, how how about some debate about the actual topic based on data (what direction are prices going in)? Is that too difficult?

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What is to debate , we like .tv and you don't so your comments are always predetermined and predictably boring over time and that only leaves the humor element to your ongoing attacks that leave people wondering why your even here ?

I've noticed Snoop's flame-baiting skill improving, which is saying a lot.

Some really great and very optimistic comments here.

I have noticed unique views, and parking revenue has dropped down significantly, but it really never was anything for me to brag about anyways. I believe all of the uniques were mostly TV domainer searches, but now that has levelled off because domainers know that all of the category killer keyword/terms are gone. IMO
So, it is to the AfterMarket we go now...

Which brings me to the great fact of...I am getting an average of one offer per day now - yes prob an average of 7 per week now. A few days ago, I had 3 offers come in. That is incredible. I have never ever seen that before. Sure there are a lot of lowballs still, but there are multiple $x,xxx offers now for some of my better names.

As for my purchases, I personally know it has been quite a bit tougher to grab any type of quality Dot TV's and I have been hitting EVERY possible niche I can think of.

Equity's comment could not be any more true though. Yes, each and every domain is unique in its own way, and the values placed upon them by seller, buyer, investor, end-user, etc. have no rhyme or reason whatsoever. Who would have known photographer/s would have fetched $9K? (btw Ray - Kller Sale - Congrats) or who would have thought MTS would have fetched $37K, metal - $16K, gadgets, etc. I mean TwoMoon just sold BabyClub.tv for $420 EUROS!

In my recent experiences and I have been very busy lately...
Across the board - Definitely, Positively, Dot TV Prices have went up and I do NOT see them going down...EVER.

Be confident in your Dot TV investments/plans everyone.
The fun has just started!

Thx,
Vito


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evirtual1 said:

What is to debate

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"PRICES - which direction are they going?"

the dot stop said:

Equity's comment could not be any more true though. Yes, each and every domain is unique in its own way

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Totally agree

snoop said:

"PRICES - which direction are they going?"

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i feel we are only slightly better than a year ago , you can't judge the extension by the increased activity here in the marketplace, i believe the extension is getting more exposure which will lead to better sales in the next year or so .......imo

Does a .TV sale have to appear on DNJ for it to be a sale? I have two .TV sales in November totalling ~$3500 but neither will appear on DNJ. My total investment in the domains was less than 10% of the sales price and the average holding period was less than 14 months. Two domain sales don't make for a winning portfolio any more than two first downs result in a national championship football team. But two .TV sales in two weeks from different buyers (both European) has caught my attention. Did I sell too cheap? Perhaps.

garptrader said:

Does a .TV sale have to appear on DNJ for it to be a sale?

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It is the only way to measure sales and the only way to avoid all the rumours of sales. It we are talking trends the best way way is to start with verified sales....not anecdotal examples of a couple of sales people have had.

There is no shortage of data on .tv sales levels, but it isn't always what people want to hear.

In 2010 there has been no shortage of .tv sales, but it isn't always what people want to hear.

If I receive a payment from SEDO, Godaddy or Escrow, the sale is verifiable to me and must be reported on my tax return. Whether it appears on DNJ is irrelevant. The Feb 2010 $3K sale of CarroYa.COM never showed on DNJ or Namebio either.

equity78 said:

In 2010 there has been no shortage of .tv sales, but it isn't always what people want to hear.

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There was plenty around the time of the auctions (mainly Verisign names), but that seems to have now trickled down to something not a lot better than previous situation, 1-2 sales reported every week.

NO trickle for me and can only authoritatively speak for myself. DN Journal means nothing to me, I brokered 5 names $3000 to $9000 in the last month and a half, and none were reported.

Jimbo sold 3 names right here for over $1000 none reported on DN Journal.