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Domain Sales Strong in First Half of 2019

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By Bob Hawkes, Jul 17, 2019
  1. ultradog

    ultradog Established Member

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    It's great to have such stats, helps us fill in the picture. I wonder if you have country code breakdowns? I wonder because this year a couple of unexpected extensions sold for us.

    (sorry to be looking for more after your hard work!)
     
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    I'm curious what the results would be for the 1st half of 2019 compared with the 1st half of 2018?
     
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    You are a valuable asset of domaining community @Bob Hawkes . Thanks for all the work.
     
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    It could be due to domain sales being heavily biased to being a numbers game combined with luck (imo).

    Re black-mark IP, that's not relevant if parked, and its called Fail-Listed or Clean which status can be easily checked at some of the parking providers.
     
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  5. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    I did not do all country codes separately for the analysis but here are the data for those I did (and the total for all country codes in top line).
    CCFirstHalf2019.jpg
    The first column after TLD gives the number of sales in the first half of 2019 and the next in the total of 2018. The next column gives the percentage increase or decrease in the rate. For example the rate of sales in .co is down about 21%. After that the next two columns give the average prices in USD for first six months of 2019 and 2018, followed by the percentage increase or decrease that 2019 is compared to 2018. The final column is a total sales volume number.

    While they would be included in the top line all cc, I did not separately look at other country code extensions such as .us or the European ones.

    Bob
     
  6. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    Yes, that would be a more meaningful comparison, i agree. It would not be hard to do for the small number TLDs, but for things like .com and all TLDs it is not easy to extract from NameBio (as far as I can see) because of the huge dataset.

    I do plan to do a similar analysis to this one at the end of the year comparing for an entire year the various TLDs, and that will not be susceptible to possible influences of some months being stronger.

    Bob
     
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    This is great information. Great to see dot-com up. I'm surprised by the newG performance.

    Wonderful work @Bob Hawkes !
     
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    Great analysis Bob as always.thanks for sharing.
     
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    Is the recent $30m sale included in the dot com sales total? That would be 1 or 2 year's sales for some venues.
     
  11. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    I took the data on July 2/3 so yes it was included. Your question emphasies an important point, however: average prices can be hugely influenced by a few big sales. For example if that one voice sale was excluded both .com and all TLDs average price would be down in first half 2019, instead of significantly up, compared to the 2018 data.

    I have plans for a future report that looks at just how strongly influenced the average price is by a handful of high value sales.

    Thanks again for the question.

    Bob
     
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  12. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    Someone earlier asked about a comparison with the first half of 2019 vs the first half only of 2018. If I do that for the new gTLDs there were 507 sales in first 6 months of 2019 vs 636 for the first 6 months of 2019. So the rate of sales (as number of sales) is still down when that comparison is done, but it is down by just over 25% instead of about 31% as reported here when we look at the entire year of 2018 as the comparison.
    Bob
     
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    If you;re going to exclude the "bottom" of the amounts (the sub $100 sales) then you probably need to drop a similar number of the high-end amounts - to get more life-like numbers throwing out the top and bottom 5% for example.
     
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    Thanks for this amazing analysis to create discussion!
     
  16. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    Thank you for your comment. Your point is well taken, and that is why I always give median values in my daily and weekly summaries (the median .com sale on NameBio, at least when considering all sales above $100, is typically not much different from $225). The average price, especially in some TLDs, is much different from the median.

    I did give some thought to excluding some top, as you suggest, but any level seemed to me arbitrary and would leave the analysis open to criticism. The exclusion at the low end ($100) is based on what NameBio exclude from public recording, and I think widely accepted as a reasonable dividing line.

    In a future analysis I am planning to show how the number of sales over a year of data break down into different price categories, emphasizing the importance of the point you make.

    Bob
     
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    zero sales (since 3 years)
    according to my experience domainning is the most worst business in the world..
     
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    Any enquiries ? Any outbound marketing ? How many domains ?
    zero of 1 good names is different to zero of 100 good names, and zero of 10,000 terrible or unmarketed domains isnt to be unexpected.
     
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    I'm in the same boat. Never had any sales in 16 months. Got about 170 domains left as I let 160 drop. Total waste of my time but hey I've learnt not to buy any more
     
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    Thank you for bringing us so much information. @Bob Hawkes
    steven
     
  21. PeterNilsson

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    YES Bob! it has been good half-year 2019 for the domain-industry.and i think it will continue.thanks for article./Peter
     
  22. RubenDario

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    Hi Laguna
    I am also in the same low mood situation, but I started 2 months ago. My domains are good. Will my price be too high? According to godaddy they are fine. I have about 40 registered domains and none sold.
    Soon we will sell

    Thanks Bob for the information!
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2019
  23. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent Gold Account VIP Trusted Blogger

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    I do want to stress that even though if the first half sales rate continues for rest of year 2019 is shaping up to be a good year, that still does not change the fact that most domain names held by domainers will languish a very long time before being sold, if ever.

    So experiences like
    and
    are not inconsistent with this year being better by the numbers, so far at least.

    If one uses Dofo to look at how many .com are for sale today it is about 14,790,000 (no doubt they miss a few but probably that is near to the total actively for sale. Using NameBio data in the last year there were about 86,400 sales in .com. That means that on average a .com that is today listed for sale would take about 170 years to sell. Now they are missing many sales since Afternic and DAN do not report, nor do Sedo report lower value sales, and of course Efty and many private are also missing. Maybe missing 80%? If so, still on average it is something like 34 years for a .com domain name to sell. Most will never sell.

    Now many sell fast, sometimes in hours, many will never sell, but that is industry-wide average. So if you someone feels their portfolio is 'average' in saleability then these numbers might apply roughly to them. I looked at some different scenarios for profitability in this post at NameTalent.

    It is challenging to achieve domain sales, and usually slow. Personally, I think it was about 7 or 8 months before I sold the first one and it was for a tiny amount. Now then I knew less than now both about choosing and selling domain names, and did not give my names a chance by having them listed with good landers or on main marketplaces.

    I am in awe of those who regularly close sales for big amounts and hats off to those top members here at NamePros. But we should not think that is easy, or in some cases even fast. Being as informed, analytical and logical helps but is no guarantee one will sell domain names at a sufficient rate to make money.

    Bob
     
  24. RubenDario

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    Hi Bob, interesting analysis. I confess that when I started a few months ago, I thought it would be easier. Anyway, I am not disappointed at all. I know that at some point I will sell. As for what you say, that some sellers are successful, I think it is due to their experience in strategies, and their reputation. The likely buyers, come to them again and again, for the trust they have earned.
    Regarding what you say, about 14,700,000 of .com, we agree that 95 percent of them are not salable. Just look at the ones that fall every day on expireddom. Then there is 5 percent left, which fights to be sold, and there comes into play the price of the seller and what the buyer is willing to pay for a domain. Only large or medium-sized companies can afford to pay xxxx, much less xxxxx, or more
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2019
  25. Ali Adil

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    Thanks Alot @Bob Hawkes for this article. You really informed about something new and intresting.
     
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