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Bob Hawkes

After .COM, What Comes Next?

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By Bob Hawkes, May 27, 2021
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After .COM, what do you think is currently the next strongest general extension?

  1. .CO

    113 votes
    22.3%
  2. .IO

    154 votes
    30.4%
  3. .NET

    123 votes
    24.3%
  4. .ORG

    84 votes
    16.6%
  5. .XYZ

    33 votes
    6.5%
Total: 507 vote(s)
  1. ThatNameGuy

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    We actually agree on a number of things Elkan. I see where someone owns Recons.online, and it isn't me. I also see that no one owns Recons.xyz and I wouldn't waste $1 on it telling you what I think of the .xyz:xf.rolleyes: extension. I'm a little curious, do you own any .online domains like Houston.online? The end users I talk with still haven't a clue that .online is an extension, but when they learn it's the best alternative to .com, their response is very interesting:xf.wink:
     
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  2. Recons.Com

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    I agree that we agree on things ) We also do differ on some, which is normal )

    I am not opposed to lots of new extensions per se. I wouldn't mind owning names like Houston.Online if a) the acquisition price was fair b) the renewals would be similar to .com

    Unfortunately, online doesn't provide that. The names that are available for hand reg with .online don't interest me.
     
  3. ThatNameGuy

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    It's a funny thing about the name Houston;

    1. Houston.com - is for sale at a site called [email protected]
    2. Houston.Online - is taken and GD values it at $1,668
    3. VisitHouston.com - leads to a beautiful site VisitHoustonTexas.com
    4. VisitHouston.Online can be bought at GD for .99 cents and it renews @ 24.99 a year (not too bad)

    Elkan...I own about 30 .online sites like VistVegas, VisitOrlando, VisitFlorida VisitManhattan and I just bought VisitNASA speaking of Houston.

    Anyway, i just wanted to share with you some of my strategy. I believe when you say "Visit Vegas Online" it really is a natural fit for the .online extension, and especially if your business is totally online like Golf Equipment Online. These names would be considered "Premium" in the .online extension and my pricing will be around a thousand dollars and possibly $99 a year to the end user for renewal.....keep in mind I'd be paying 24.99 annually. Does any of this make sense to you? I appreciate the dialogue.
     
  4. Recons.Com

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    I believe word+word works only for .com, .org (special cases like Doctor+Care, Pet+Shelter etc.), and some top cctlds, if we were to develop general rule of thumb for investment grade domains.

    Also, Visit+City+Online is not the same meaning as Visit+City or City+Online. Visit+City aims to bring people PHYSICALLY to a place. City+Online provides all the info needed for the place online. While Visit+City+Online should mean a service to experience the city virtually, maybe VR experience or something. Don't see many services like that or demand for that. It will also not contribute to city's economy for sure.
     
  5. ThatNameGuy

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    Actually Covid generated a lot of interest in virtual travel. A good friend and his wife have been hooking up with their 9 year old grandson remotely every Saturday and have spent the last 50 weeks visiting major countries and cities around the world. They've been to Rome, Africa, Scotland, New York, and the list goes on.

    Bricks and mortar are on the way out and marketing/selling anything online is taking it's place.....just look at Amazon:xf.smile: Circling back to VisitHouston.com....anyone reading this should check out their website. There you will find a very professional site "all about Houston". My point is that VisitHouston.Online is equally as good, and it's only a dollar.....think risk vs. reward:xf.wink:

    Finally, and no disrespect to you, i really don't care what other domainers think. I only care what a potential "end user" thinks. Make sense?
     
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    If xyz names are valuable why hasn't someone registered games.xyz $ 3125? Renewal fee $ 3125 yes but a valuable name like GAME can earn that in one day trading.
     
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    I think one day we could see browsers natively offer a domain without a tld.
    For example you just type in "NamePros" into your browser and it automatically takes you here to the forums without having to type ".com" at the end. By default the .com owner controls this, but you can still visit other sites by simply adding .net, .org, .info, etc. to the end like you always have.

    The other (more likely) way I see things going is everything just slowly moving to becoming an app in an App Store. You just download the app for whatever you want to use with websites phasing out one day.
     
  9. secretagentdad

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    What an interesting thought.
    Never thought about browsers making an end run around dns registrations before.
     
  10. redemo

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    @henrypcyeung How can you disagree with a question?
     
  11. henrypcyeung

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    I disagree about one-day trading. Unless you have insider information about potential buyers or you have a very good luck, one-day trading does not work in domaining because domains are illiquid assets.
     
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    Sorry mate I said it wrong. Meant to say one day trading as a gaming website with gaming ads, betting offers and subscriptions. Let's suppose that gaming.xyz is a live website with 20000 daily visitors and each customer visit is worth 17 cents. That's how gaming site can reach $ 3125 in one day of trading. I don't even know what one-day trading is. If gaming.xyz is available and not registered I don't see the value in the extension. Gaming + XYZ are perfect together like the buttons on a gaming controller. Keyword gaming 200000 monthly visits U.S. and A. google. Cheers.
     
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    @redemo

    Credit Card
    Country Club
    Community College
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    Christian Church
    Clinical Center
    Community Center
    City Council
    College Center
    Customer Care
    Computer Center
    Cable Connection
    College Council
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    Community Club
    Comedy Central
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  14. redemo

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    Perfect. Cheers mate.
     
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    @redemo You're right with what you said. There is indeed plenty use
     
  16. henrypcyeung

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    Please note the fact that games//xyz was registered and used to redirect to hype//games//com according to WayBack Machine, and gaming//xyz was registered before according to Whois historical record. Also, some gaming-related .xyz domains such as game//xyz, gamer//xyz and gamers//xyz are now registered.

    Besides, I strongly disagree that a value of an extension is determined by registration of a keyword domain. Instead, we should look into the demand for the extension.

    In terms of usage, .xyz is used by end users from various industries around the world, such as blockchain/cryptocurrency businesses, 3D businesses and personal websites. You may see some active websites in https://gen.xyz/live.

    In terms of sales, there are .xyz sales every month with an average price of ~$3,000 in 2021 (as of today) according to Namebio.

    Based on the above two aspects, there is demand for .xyz and hence .xyz has value.
     
  17. redemo

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    @henrypcyeung What I don't understand is all premium .xyz names come with the same annual registration fees so it's not just games.xyz but all premium names with that extension. Games in ALL other good extensions is gone. Registered in more than 450 extensions. For me that devalues the entire .xyz extension and would put off investing it. So I think the value of .xyz developed is in the site not the extension. Nothing against .xyz just how it looks to a year one newbie.
     
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    Look what else is not taken in .xyz extension. News, seo, shop, 888, hotel, hotels, insurance, art, sex, real estate, security, store, gold, diamond, job, jobs, poker, sport, cars, forex, support, website, software, porn, fitness, shopping, wine, office, tax, beer, tickets, gold, rent, dating, gay, healthcare, party, wedding, menu, technology, fund, loan, menu, mortage, maps, pharmacy, lawyers, gym, loans, photography, tennis, investing, storage, university, vacation, for sale, cruise, coupons, directory, racing, diet, properties.........................................
     
  19. henrypcyeung

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    1. There are different pricing tiers for premium .xyz domains. As I know, the renewal fees of premium .xyz domains ranges from low 3 figures to 5 figures. The keywords you show have very high renewal fees (4-5 figures) that affect registration. There are actually many good .xyz domains having much lower renewal fees (2 figures to low 3 figures) but most of them have already been taken.

    2. Registrations in more than 450 extensions just mean "games" is a popular keyword.

    3. Different extensions have different pricing tiers. Generally, domains with lower renewal fees are easier to be registered. How many of the 450 domains have lower renewal fees than games//xyz ($3,000)? Are there any good extensions that are not yet registered?

    4. I really do not understand why a small portion of unregistered domains with very high renewal fees can devalue the whole extension. How about other 3 million registered .xyz domains? Why the registered .xyz domains cannot increase the value of .xyz in your mind? How many of the 450 extensions have more than 3 million domain registrations?

    5. How many of the 450 extensions have better sale records than .xyz?

    6. How many of the 450 extensions have more active websites than .xyz?

    7. I think I have explained a lot. I recommend you to do an in-depth research on .xyz extension. If you still think .xyz does not have value, then you can choose to invest in other extensions and leave the profit opportunity to others.
     
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