.IM Discussion

gilescoley · Jul 5, 2009

I have seen quite a few registered lately, has anyone got any comments on these names. What if there was a good keyword name, is it worth grabbing.

I believe its the Isle Of Man, but are people possibly going to use the "Instant Messaging" acronym for these domains??

Thanks for any advice??

dotker · Jul 18, 2009

Shahid7 said:
hello, thought i was going to stop but i bought 3 more .im

Cargo.im
Shipment.im
Sweets.im

as for the price, i think the best thing is to go to Domain monster and register ur first year for US$ 5 and pay yearly fee of 19.99 US$ / year without asking your self twice if its 10000 or XXXXX / yr :D

i am going to shift all my .im from name.com to Domain monster, as name.com is charging 75 US$ per renewal now

thanks for sharing this one shahid7! i have few im myself..

sids70 · Jul 18, 2009

I got

fever,im

No harm in 4.99, I guess.

Sid

iSKY · Jul 18, 2009

The .im will be more valuable maibe in the next 3-4 years ... I`m almost sure about that!

zapdaddy · Jul 18, 2009

iSKY said:
The .im will be more valuable maibe in the next 3-4 years ... I`m almost sure about that!

Your right the good keyword .im will be worth more than the 4.99 special pricing in 4 or 5 years , but will it be worth 4 or 5 years of $xx reg fees. Thats the question we have to ask ourselves. Alot of domainers will be debating that in about 1 years time.

dobidder · Jul 18, 2009

Just couldn't resist the $4.99 temptation

Got Showcase.im this time, tons of ideas pop up when I saw the name was available.

Nattydomain · Jul 18, 2009

bought four IM domains and thats it....will see what happens in a years time...

British/Isles

Islands

Bye

Texting

Shahid7 · Jul 18, 2009

I personally feel .im will do good since renewal fess are down too.

Kate · Jul 18, 2009

iSKY said:
The .im will be more valuable maibe in the next 3-4 years ... I`m almost sure about that!

Huh ? I'm afraid *very few* of the recent regs will avoid drop when renewal comes due next year at standard price.
The truth is, the local market is very limited.
Sure you can try to brand the TLD like 'instant messaging' or something else, but so many other extensions have been pimped like that, with limited success at best.

Shahid7 · Jul 18, 2009

Maritime.im

Funky.im

akcampbell · Jul 19, 2009

Why did you register Maritime.im? The keyword maritime has sold 4 times, all in .com, all in the range of $2k-$3k. If the keyword hasn't sold in any extension other than .com and even then not for very much, why would you spend $5 regging the .im? To me, it's like getting a $5 bill and burning it.

Let's imagine there is a company with an interest in the keyword maritime, what are they gaining from buying it in .im? I'll tell you what they are losing;

1) It will be a 2009 registration and search engines give preference to older continuously regged domains
2) Search engines will give .im domains a lower relevance than gTLD's on non Isle of Man search results because of the geo ending.

For those two reasons alone, no developer with any SEO knowledge would ever develop Maritime.im.

From a branding angle, "Maritime.im" makes no sense whatsover. The phrase "Maritime im" has 818 Google uniques, "Maritimeim" has 27.

For alternative extensions to stand a snowball in hell's chance of making any progress, they have to add something to the keyword, either to complement it or make it brandable. So for example, I regged Marine.pro in November 07. It wasn't a play on the keyword Marine, it was a play on the combination of the keyword Marine and extension Pro. "Marine Pro" has 57,900 Google uniques.

Take another of your registrations on this thread. Cargo.im, I regged Cargo.pro, again in November 2007. "Cargoim" has 264 Google uniques versus 4,730 for "Cargopro". My registration of Cargo.pro wasn't just for the keyword cargo, like Maritime it's not that lucrative, if you look on dnsaleprice, there have been 10 sales of Cargo keyword domains, 9 out of 10 were .com with the highest at $10,000, with just the 1 alternative eCargo.eu at $1,100. I regged Cargo.pro because Cargo and pro rhyme so combined with the Pro branding suffix, it makes it brandable.

The odds of making money out of alternative extensions are very slim so you should pick a keyword and extension pairing that makes logical sense, adds value, and might be more preferable to a buyer than the usual .net and .org alternatives to .com.

I'm a fan of alternative extensions and not just the extensions I've invested in; .info and .pro, I can also appreciate the branding appeal of certain keywords in .tv and .me. However, meaningless ccTLD's with "it could mean" hype like .cc, .ws, .im and so on which rely purely on their keyword are destined for the dustbin. They only have value when certain keywords are scarce but with 100's of extensions floating around and 100s more on the way, the only wheel of fortune being span when people hand over $4.99 to reg domains like Maritime.im is in their head.

Shahid7 · Jul 20, 2009

thanks for your post, Maritime.im is something i liked and grabbed it for the sake of it if i make money or don't not worried
what i plan to do is make a mini site of it and use ad sense on it and try to seo it, there are some good words with CPC

like Maritime Law, Maritime Insurance and many more .im might be the most sickest TLD but guess what if good words are not available in other i think .im is a Gem itself, i have burnt alot of US$ back in 2008 jan buying every .com for 100+ in tdnam n other places what happened to it i dropped them now atleast i m being wise on my expense as 100 can bring 20 good words

and the renewal cost isnt alot either just 19.99 US$/yr willing to gamble on that as domains is all about Gamble, who knew domains like Business.com - The Business Search Engine® and Business Directory for Business Information Candy from Candy.com, Bulk Candy, Gift Candy, Gourmet Candy, and Chocolate! could sell this high but they did.

personally i have no experience with .pro but i dont like either,

i guess at the end everyone has his or her own opinions about domains, if someone was to give me .pro for free i wouldnt want it

good luck to your wise ness in domains and i hope it pays off to both your self and the people who understand you.

akcampbell said:
Why did you register Maritime.im? The keyword maritime has sold 4 times, all in .com, all in the range of $2k-$3k. If the keyword hasn't sold in any extension other than .com and even then not for very much, why would you spend $5 regging the .im? To me, it's like getting a $5 bill and burning it.

Let's imagine there is a company with an interest in the keyword maritime, what are they gaining from buying it in .im? I'll tell you what they are losing;

1) It will be a 2009 registration and search engines give preference to older continuously regged domains
2) Search engines will give .im domains a lower relevance than gTLD's on non Isle of Man search results because of the geo ending.

For those two reasons alone, no developer with any SEO knowledge would ever develop Maritime.im.

From a branding angle, "Maritime.im" makes no sense whatsover. The phrase "Maritime im" has 818 Google uniques, "Maritimeim" has 27.

For alternative extensions to stand a snowball in hell's chance of making any progress, they have to add something to the keyword, either to complement it or make it brandable. So for example, I regged Marine.pro in November 07. It wasn't a play on the keyword Marine, it was a play on the combination of the keyword Marine and extension Pro. "Marine Pro" has 57,900 Google uniques.

Take another of your registrations on this thread. Cargo.im, I regged Cargo.pro, again in November 2007. "Cargoim" has 264 Google uniques versus 4,730 for "Cargopro". My registration of Cargo.pro wasn't just for the keyword cargo, like Maritime it's not that lucrative, if you look on dnsaleprice, there have been 10 sales of Cargo keyword domains, 9 out of 10 were .com with the highest at $10,000, with just the 1 alternative eCargo.eu at $1,100. I regged Cargo.pro because Cargo and pro rhyme so combined with the Pro branding suffix, it makes it brandable.

The odds of making money out of alternative extensions are very slim so you should pick a keyword and extension pairing that makes logical sense, adds value, and might be more preferable to a buyer than the usual .net and .org alternatives to .com.

I'm a fan of alternative extensions and not just the extensions I've invested in; .info and .pro, I can also appreciate the branding appeal of certain keywords in .tv and .me. However, meaningless ccTLD's with "it could mean" hype like .cc, .ws, .im and so on which rely purely on their keyword are destined for the dustbin. They only have value when certain keywords are scarce but with 100's of extensions floating around and 100s more on the way, the only wheel of fortune being span when people hand over $4.99 to reg domains like Maritime.im is in their head.

akcampbell · Jul 20, 2009

If you are planning to do a minisite and SEO it for a key phrase like Maritime Law or Maritime Insurance, why not register MaritimeLaw.im or MaritimeInsurance.im, it would be easier to rank for those phrases with both words in the domain. If you did that, I could completely understand your logic.

With something like Maritime.im you're between a rock and a hard place. Maritime.im isn't brandable because there is no obvious link between maritime and im and it's difficult to get ranked high in a search engine because it's a ccTLD, it's a new domain, and people don't search for a 1 word dictionary word like maritime so the domain is contributing virtually nothing to a search engine's assessment of relevance.

If you want to make money through a minisite for the keyphrase Maritime Law, you should think about buying MaritimeLaw.org on Sedo, because it's a gTLD and regged continuously since 1998, you'd have a real chance of getting on the first 2-3 pages of Google, the seller has a price expectation of $1,000, you might pick it up for significantly less than that, and it's worth a hatful of .im domains.

Domaining is a gamble but like horses in a race, some are more likely to win than others. Regging .im is the gambling equivalent of backing a 3 legged donkey. You're getting nothing that contributes value in a domain name with something like Maritime.im; for example, the security, saleability, and complete acceptance of a .com, a top 1,000 blockbuster keyword of something like Casino.im, Travel.im, or Diamond.im (at auction at Sedo with a high bid of just $75), or the brandability of a natural keyword alternative extension pairing like Ringtones.mobi, News.tv, Help.me, Golf.pro, Rates.info etc.

zapdaddy · Jul 22, 2009

Shahid7 said:
I personally feel .im will do good since renewal fess are down too.

What are the cheapest renewals or transfers now?

Bohra · Jul 22, 2009

What do u guys think of rebate.im ?

Blitz · Jul 22, 2009

zapdaddy said:
What are the cheapest renewals or transfers now?

It looks like Domainmonster.com has .im for:

1 - $19.99 year
10+ - $18.99 year
25+ - $17.99 year

If anyone is interested, I have some great 3 letter word .ims I just put up for auction here at Namepros

.

Sam · Jul 22, 2009

Domain Monster is the best price

! Got me some promising typos. $35 investment cant go bad

Bohra · Jul 23, 2009

Domain Monster is good but it seems its doesnt accept paypal ?

.tv · Jul 24, 2009

dobidder said:
Just couldn't resist the $4.99 temptation

Got Showcase.im this time, tons of ideas pop up when I saw the name was available.

You can buy .IM names at EuroDNS for just €2 :music:

Reps appreciated!

Shahid7 · Jul 24, 2009

Thanks for the good suggestion akcambell, i totally agree with you there on keywords but sometimes when i like something i buy it regardless of what it can benefit me in long run.

i like your suggestion of Martimelaw.org i will try to see how much he is willing to sell that and might grab it if its cheap.

as for .im even if 99% are against it i m support it as i feel it might pay of the 180 US$ i spent on 35 domains so i m least bothered.

once again thanks for ur suggestion and comments and help some of the people here save money

Shahid

akcampbell said:
If you are planning to do a minisite and SEO it for a key phrase like Maritime Law or Maritime Insurance, why not register MaritimeLaw.im or MaritimeInsurance.im, it would be easier to rank for those phrases with both words in the domain. If you did that, I could completely understand your logic.

With something like Maritime.im you're between a rock and a hard place. Maritime.im isn't brandable because there is no obvious link between maritime and im and it's difficult to get ranked high in a search engine because it's a ccTLD, it's a new domain, and people don't search for a 1 word dictionary word like maritime so the domain is contributing virtually nothing to a search engine's assessment of relevance.

If you want to make money through a minisite for the keyphrase Maritime Law, you should think about buying MaritimeLaw.org on Sedo, because it's a gTLD and regged continuously since 1998, you'd have a real chance of getting on the first 2-3 pages of Google, the seller has a price expectation of $1,000, you might pick it up for significantly less than that, and it's worth a hatful of .im domains.

Domaining is a gamble but like horses in a race, some are more likely to win than others. Regging .im is the gambling equivalent of backing a 3 legged donkey. You're getting nothing that contributes value in a domain name with something like Maritime.im; for example, the security, saleability, and complete acceptance of a .com, a top 1,000 blockbuster keyword of something like Casino.im, Travel.im, or Diamond.im (at auction at Sedo with a high bid of just $75), or the brandability of a natural keyword alternative extension pairing like Ringtones.mobi, News.tv, Help.me, Golf.pro, Rates.info etc.

Bohra · Jul 25, 2009

.tv said:
You can buy .IM names at EuroDNS for just €2 :music:

Reps appreciated!

know any such service accepting paypal

cmason · Jul 25, 2009

Bohra said:
know any such service accepting paypal

Name.com accepts PayPal and is $4.99 US per .IM.

***** · Jul 27, 2009

cmason said:
Name.com accepts PayPal and is $4.99 US per .IM.

and $75 for renewal....

hmm.. so eurodns looks better for renewal? only 2€
currently i have 2 .im on name.com:
cut
chatting

ynzheng · Jul 29, 2009

I regged some .im domains on hexonet.net for only 3.14$,as following:

FYI.im
MID.im
MIC.im
CTO.im
each.im
nod.im

just wanna know how much is that renewal feee

dotstate.com · Jul 30, 2009

I have got some IMs and very happy with them and they do get traffic and some of them had offers on them but i plan to keep them.

888.im
one.im
sky.im
three.im
intranet.im
iphone.im
books.im
cool.im
cyworld.im
friends.im
fun.im

All parked at sedo.co.uk for now.

DS
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exsedo · Jul 30, 2009

.tv said:
You can buy .IM names at EuroDNS for just €2 :music:

Reps appreciated!

Have you used them before ?

I regged 3 domains with them. They took my money, the domains went through the pending process, I received my sales invoice, and then the domains disappeared.

Customer services issued an automated ticket in response to my query, no response so I sent another message. Received another automated ticket instantly. Still no response.

I'll hold back on the reps.

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