.co .CO - The Discussion, Showcase and Sales Report Thread

bmugford said:

I thought I read that normally year 2 and year 3 have a bigger exodus.

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Yep it is the hold'em or fold'em time for small scale domainers. There's always a big drop at the first anniversary (the very highly speculative stuff) but the second and third year anniversary is where they have to make a decision on the stuff that could, in a growing and developing TLD, have had prospects.

Considering .CO has very limited actual usage, that means the vast majority of domains are held for resale.

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This is a very dangerous development for any TLD because it actually affects the credibility of the TLD. If many of the domains that would usually be developed by small businesses are held back by domainers and by industrial level cyberwarehousers, then it kills development in that TLD. The classic example is the way that the bozos in the European Commission and Eurid allowed the .eu to be massively cyberwarehoused (even though this was against the regulations) and cybersquatted. It killed any interest in .eu ccTLD as an extension for development.

COInternet's idea of limiting such a problem by having a high initial registration fee worked to some extent and the level of speculation in .co could have been far higher.

Are new registrations going to outpace the drops? We will see.

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New registrations benefit the registry and the registrars rather than the end users. If the public loses confidence in a TLD, it can take a few years for this to show up in the registration statistics. What it often looks like is an echo of the landrush anniversary drops being sustained over a few years. This is what it looked like with .eu ccTLD
http://www.hosterstats.com/eu-domain-name-registrations.php

The Landrush anniversary was in 2006. But there's an echo as more domains drop. I have to update the stats for 2012 but Dotster (one of the main cyberwarehousers in .eu ccTLD via an Irish front company) dropped about 20K of its .eu domains in the latest stats and Blixem dropped a pile of 4L domains. Some of the other cyberwarehousers and direct navigation operations have already dumped most of their .eu portfolios. This is not the kind of thing that COInternet wants to be looking at in a few years time. Hopefully they will have learned from the .eu fiasco.

Regards...jmcc

the_poet said:

What I believe is that, this summer, a big factor will be played by the registration fee. Unlike summer 2011, when reg fee was $20-$25, this year GoDaddy is selling new registrations for as low as $7.99, so I'm sure many low quality domains will be dropped and re-registered.

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Well, Juan Calle mentioned there was a reason for the high pricing in the past.

If they lower the prices, they will just be going down the .INFO path.

The registration numbers might look good on paper, but in reality low registration costs just inflate the numbers.

Brad

bmugford said:

Well, Juan Calle mentioned there was a reason for the high pricing in the past.

If they lower the prices, they will just be going down the .INFO path.

The registration numbers might look good on paper, but in reality low registration costs just inflate the numbers.

Brad

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I don't think they will lower the price to .INFO levels ($1-$3). IMO they will be aligning registration price to .COM (in fact at GoDaddy they have been the same for a while now).

Update:

As of last night I counted 1,313,930 unique domain names in the .co zone (includes all third level denominations: .com.co net.co etc).
The breakdown is as follows:

.com.co 92336
.net.co 4222
.mil.co 148
.edu.co 5113
.gov.co 4643
.nom.co 1035
.org.co 1362
.co 1205071


Previous count was: 1,182,057

Net gain: 131,873 units.

sdsinc said:

Update:

As of last night I counted 1,313,930 unique domain names in the .co zone (includes all third level denominations: .com.co net.co etc).
The breakdown is as follows:

.com.co 92336
.net.co 4222
.mil.co 148
.edu.co 5113
.gov.co 4643
.nom.co 1035
.org.co 1362
.co 1205071


Previous count was: 1,182,057

Net gain: 131,873 units.

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Thanks sdsinc. :tu: Very informative. Nice growth.

sdsinc said:

Update:

As of last night I counted 1,313,930 unique domain names in the .co zone (includes all third level denominations: .com.co net.co etc).
The breakdown is as follows:

.com.co 92336
.net.co 4222
.mil.co 148
.edu.co 5113
.gov.co 4643
.nom.co 1035
.org.co 1362
.co 1205071


Previous count was: 1,182,057

Net gain: 131,873 units.

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Thanks, Kate. That confirms what I said last time: the namespace is (very) slowly increasing.

Well in the end cherry.co sold at Namejet for $260.. should I have bid to win this or was I right not to? I guess only time will tell I have mixed feelings really.. A part of me feels I have missed a bargain here..

Regarding no_url_shorteners URL shorteners, has anybody been tracking theirs?

I forgot about mine completely and then signed in today to have a look at the stats. Most of mine are sitting stale but some have been receiving a handful of type-ins per month with the traffic going to sites that I no longer own, but they now have an option to edit where the shortener points so that trickle of traffic can be reclaimed.

It might be worth checking to see if any of yours are receiving type-ins.

Dave said:

Well in the end cherry.co sold at Namejet for $260.. should I have bid to win this or was I right not to? I guess only time will tell I have mixed feelings really.. A part of me feels I have missed a bargain here..

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I suppose there's no need to think about it now. Time to hunt down a better investment IMO.

m-i-k-e said:

Regarding no_url_shorteners URL shorteners, has anybody been tracking theirs?

I forgot about mine completely and then signed in today to have a look at the stats. Most of mine are sitting stale but some have been receiving a handful of type-ins per month with the traffic going to sites that I no longer own, but they now have an option to edit where the shortener points so that trickle of traffic can be reclaimed.

It might be worth checking to see if any of yours are receiving type-ins.

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Yes, I received a few visits to:

no_url_shorteners/hotel
no_url_shorteners/games
no_url_shorteners/business

Nice ones Poet, the one that I had bringing in the most visitors was no_url_shorteners/videos

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As would be expected, the one letter ones have the most clicks, but even so, 742 clicks since 2010 is nothing to write home about (no_url_shorteners/Z).

Also be aware that letters following the slash are case sensitive, and I have a capital "Z"; I suspect that the lower case singles have more traffic, but I missed out on that.

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Keith said:

I suppose there's no need to think about it now. Time to hunt down a better investment IMO.

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Wise words there bud. :great:

Socially.CO on Sedo auction at $1,100 (to the mods, not mine).

Dave said:

Well in the end cherry.co sold at Namejet for $260.. should I have bid to win this or was I right not to? I guess only time will tell I have mixed feelings really.. A part of me feels I have missed a bargain here..

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I think you did the right thing by taking a pass on this Cherry.

As another poster so wisely suggested, you would be best served by looking in another direction for a better investment. I think this goose is cooked. IMHO

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Keith said:

I suppose there's no need to think about it now. Time to hunt down a better investment IMO.

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^^^ Wise words indeed!

MicroGuy said:

I think you did the right thing by taking a pass on this Cherry.

As another poster so wisely suggested, you would be best served by looking in another direction for a better investment. I think this goose is cooked. IMHO

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^^^ Wise words indeed!

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MicroGuy speaks the truth. This name likely would have fetched much more last year and it would appear values are declining for this extension. So, extrapolating out, we should expect this name to be worth even less next year. Probably headed in the direction of 2 or 3 x reg fee.

IMHO, top keywords in this extension are not worth more than $1k given the high likelihood of confusion with .com rendering them almost unusable without a significant marketing campaign and even then as we saw with o.co, there are no guarantees of success.

Just my opinion. We'll have to wait and see how things pan out by I would not get my hopes up.

rusty1000 said:

MicroGuy speaks the truth. This name likely would have fetched much more last year and it would appear values are declining for this extension.

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It sold last year. This was actually a profit.

rusty1000 said:

So, extrapolating out, we should expect this name to be worth even less next year.

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Extrapolating out would say things go in the same direction so it would be worth MORE.

rusty1000 said:

Probably headed in the direction of 2 or 3 x reg fee.

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I think that the price last year was the lowest it will ever sell for.

rusty1000 said:

rendering them almost unusable without a significant marketing campaign and even then as we saw with o.co, there are no guarantees of success.

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o.co has nothing to do with anything but the sheer crapness of overstock.com.

rusty1000 said:

Just my opinion. We'll have to wait and see how things pan out by I would not get my hopes up.

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I wouldn't either. I think this name dies have upside at the price, though. I would expect this to net a profit.

defaultuser said:

It sold last year. This was actually a profit.

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What was the price last year?

rusty1000 said:

What was the price last year?

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$120 I think. Shane bought it at the Sedo Auction.

defaultuser said:

$120 I think. Shane bought it at the Sedo Auction.

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Well, maybe things are heading up then for .co. But, I still can't see how one could use this name. If you were a company in the business of selling cherries and decided to go with it, I think you'd be taking a huge risk given that there is an operating cherry business at CherryCo.com. I suppose there could be someone willing to take that chance.


Sorry, not a cherry business at that address, but a live site nonetheless.

cherry co sold for $160 in that sedo auction

Shane:

" I purchased turtles.co and cherry.co and won’t be letting them go for anywhere near the prices I paid"

Dave said:

Well in the end cherry.co sold at Namejet for $260.. should I have bid to win this or was I right not to? I guess only time will tell I have mixed feelings really.. A part of me feels I have missed a bargain here..

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Like one of the best domainers of all time (Jay Z) said, on to the next one. The owner letting it go only after 5 months doesn't show much faith in it.

JB Lions said:

Like one of the best domainers of all time (Jay Z) said, on to the next one. The owner letting it go only after 5 months doesn't show much faith in it.

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He's likely shifting his focus to .com as I recently outbid him for a nice domain :P

Keith said:

He's likely shifting his focus to .com

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Sounds like a smart guy.....:bingo:

Jewelry.CO on Sedo auction at $24,000. To the mods: not my name (unfortunately :p)

Socially.CO still at $1,100