RJ

Landrush is over, next step for .XXX domains is general availability. Starting December 6th you'll be able to register any available .XXX domain.

http://www.icmregistry.com/press/icm...r-xxx-domains/

Just a quick anonymouse poll here -- are you investing in .XXX? Why or why not?

For a more in depth discussion on .XXX, we've just opened a new subforum in the NamePros Adult Webmaster area.

http://www.namepros.com/xxx-domain-discussion/

D-K

I was looking to purchase maybe one or two to develop - but after running ixxx.com for along period of time and the hassle of maintaining an adult site just turned me away.

I was gonna invest to develop and not flip

cdboard

today's XXX news item:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/30...o-block-usage/

RJ

Personally, I like the idea of the .XXX TLD as both a domainer and a parent of young children because To me it makes perfect sense for adult content to have its own TLD. It makes it easier to identify and easier to block for those who don't wish to view.
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As a domainer, I like the potential behind them, especially for adult niche keyword domains. I'm not thrilled about the registration and renewal costs. (upwards of $80 per name, ouch!) I also wonder if it's a bit narrow in the adult scope, for instance Playboy.XXX doesn't exactly make sense since they are an adult site but not necessarily an "XXX" rated enterprise. Or perhaps the whole XXX as a rating is merely symbolic, like the XXX on the side of an old timey liquor bottle?

What do you think?

defaultuser

The whole idea of identifying a collection of sites based on an extension has been tried with .mobi.
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As there is not a central authority controlling the entire DNS and internet standards in terms of enforcement, the idea that .XXX will in any way shape or form help to create an organization of content is an unrealistic dream.

Modern systems are increasingly moving away from a naming convention and more towards a simple taxonomy. I would expect search engine/appliances to resolve the adult vs non-adult issue before any organization.

Access to the internet will increasingly be through apps/appliances to create the illusion of a controlled internet. So .XXX is nothing more than a new registry money grab and I won't be participating.

In terms of investment? The pool of legitimate end users is limited to adult businesses - this will make the reseller/parking market smaller than generic tld. Most hosting sites do not allow adult on shared hosting removing even more of the reseller. The number of real adult players is not that huge - most sites are just mirrors/affiliates/piracy.. and the industy is suffering. Only the bigger brands will survive.

One other minor concern - if we start investigating and looking to filter on XXX there will be increased visibility into the "parent" companies or stockholders that provide some financing - I would fear that some of the better known family brands might start removing their investments in the seedy part of town.

It's great if you got in already with a great keyword AND have no qualms about targeting an adult audience - but for everyone else the market already sailed, imho.

For those people who are making money of cheap tube sites - there is no point to an .XXX when a crappy .com achieves the same thing. There are 100s of adult .coms dropping on a daily basis (not all of which totally suck).

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RJ

Yes there are some similarities between .XXX and .MOBI. Both are voluntary to adopt to serve businesses appealing to a specific niche of sites. Like .MOBI, .XXX has built in marketing in the TLD (good or bad, tbd).

The higher price tag versus .com will keep a lot of the riffraff out of the .XXX namespace like those cheap tube sites you mentioned. That could prove to be a good thing for .XXX owners if your .XXX neighbor sites are less scammy as a whole. I think .INFO killed a lot of their credibility early on with the free & cheapo reg fees they offered to get numbers up.
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If I was an adult developer I'd be jumping on them but for now I'm on the fence whether I'll actually get any. Also questioning the need for defensive registrations... NamePros.XXX will be available but is it even worth securing it, or should I just let some other knucklehead blow $80 on it?

defaultuser

Reg it and put the adult break room there so Firefly can post his pictures
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and me... and johname... and Archangel

Maybe we should be the knuckleheads... split 4 ways it's only $20.

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cdboard

from the thread title: "Are you getting any?"

on topic!

hahaha

sdsinc

Good point. Industry-specific TLD have failed. See .travel .museum .aero etc.
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As for .xxx I'm not getting any. I think it will be another niche extension, if it ever gets past the initial hype.

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Ms Domainer

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I can't, in all good conscience, invest in an extension that engages in both exploitation of vulnerable young women, young men, and children (!!!--yes, this will happen, like it or not) and in extortionist policies for those who do not wish to have their TMs and names associated with porn.

I would not want to invest in something that I couldn't tell my seven-year-old granddaughter about.

Most importantly, I need to face myself in the mirror each morning, and while I'm no great beauty, I still would like what I see staring back at me.

The only up side to .xxx: I will be able to block! Block! Block!

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Unintended pun, but there might be a marketing slogan in there somewhere.

Ms Domainer

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I must respectfully disagree with you--.xxx is likely to attract riffraff nonetheless, albeit of a richer sort, perhaps mafia and/or druglord types, who have millions to launder.

Besides, once the registry figures out that money is to be made in quantity (as opposed to "quality"), those prices will drop like a rock.

The fact that you are even pondering buying Namepros in .xxx suggests that this is a worrisome thought for you, hence perhaps buying in to the extortion that .xxx uses as part of its business model.
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Several good points Ms D.

$80 isn't going to keep this all that exclusive (any website owner with legitimate development plans should find the price reasonable) but it is high enough for spam sites/bulk domain buyers to maybe choose to spend their money on a less generic .com instead.

The thought of a porn site existing on namepros.xxx is certainly a consideration in deciding whether to pay the $80 registration. I have no idea who would want to name their site that. Better chance it will just get snagged by someone, parked and end up with porn links on it.

namenut

Secure the name RJ.

Defensive move at least and an adult
domain forum might be a viable use.

I wouldn't point it NPs though....
"BaldEagle" and "johname" might reg it
to show off their drunken nude chicken
feather wearing stupers. The one with
peanut butter is especially upsetting.
Don't let PETA see it.

NameHoes.xxx

NN

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ambitnfun

I got a few for investment

defaultuser

With you and me, BaldEagle and Johname Master Appraiser we're talking about $20 each

Wanna do it?

I'd like somewhere to post that Wendy video everyone keeps talking aboot

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I have a totally different view of porn that most (I think - or maybe I'm just more outspoken, lol). While there is exploitation in the industry, to me it is no more extreme or worse than exploitation that exists in other industries - it's primarily based on a view of sex which fundamentally changed in the late 19th Century.

I find it hard to argue that a woman making up to $1500 for an afternoon's work (I know not all make that) is more exploitative than a 65 year making $12 /hr bagging my groceries and carrying them to my car. In fact, I find it hard to argue even if the actor or actress is making $12 /hr.

I've lived in places where there was a lot of effort to stop naked lap dances. Who argued against the change in the law ? Single women, mothers, married women, people who made a decent living in a job in which they didn't feel exploited.

My view is actually that the customer is always the most exploited. The fact that some guy pays $100s of dollars to have some fantasy moment where someone fakes interest in him or some fantasy is fulfilled via film is what is sad. But then again - nearly every industry is selling a fantasy...

Smoking makes you cool. The right tequila makes you awesome. The right car makes you sexy. The right food will make you live longer. The right supermarket makes you a better person.

I'm not saying you are wrong in your view. I understand perfectly where you are coming from and I do respect it 100%

With regard to children. I hardly think that any site that deals in what is considered illegal in most countries (all?) will follow arbitrary rules to conform to .XXX.

It is a problem but it's unaffected by .XXX

On a final aside that I should have said before:
A Government is NOT going to legally mandate that a private online business has to conform to a rule that forces them to purchase business from private entity. I'm pretty sure that every court in the land would shut that down as soon as it was appealed.

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CureCancer

if the two I reserved go through it would be a step forward for my vision! an Adult Dating Site! not just for anyone, its targeted at a unique community. Got nothing to loose but strike gold! A total investment of 2 REG FEE .xxx!

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Nope, I will give .xxx domains a pass. Anything decent would've already been taken or premium prices.

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Just like other new extensions, virtually all the top generic terms will be long gone before generally availability.
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They will either be sold to private buyers, or held by the registry.

The few remaining will probably sell for way more than they are worth at landrush auctions, and all the average people will be left fighting for scraps.

I will avoid this one.

Brad

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malcarada

Nobody operating a porn .com is going to give it up and move the stuff to a .xxx, the .xxx porn sites you are going to block, those are going to be all new sites, I fail to see how that makes your children safer than they are now.

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RJ

I'm saying the idea makes sense for .XXX to have their own TLD. Nobody said porn sites are going away or going exclusively to .XXX.
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Having a TLD exclusive to adult sites makes it a lot easier and more effective to block those that do reside with a .XXX domain. Parents will still need existing methods and filters to block porn sites residing on .COMs.

Acroplex

Do you know what time the general availability floodgates will open on December 6?

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RJ

so 8am PST for me... thank you very much, timechange.

Keith

I just looked up a bunch of .xxx to see who got awarded names through sunrise a/b. What a crock of sh!t. The registry reserved names that they kept open for applicants. Meaning, they collected application fees from TM and existing holders to only keep the names for themselves.

This is a crooked launch if I've ever seen it. I'll be staying far away!

sdsinc

Is blackmail.xxx reserved as well ?

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