Many .xxx Domains sold for hundreds of thousands of $

Veronika11 · 10-11-2011, 04:28 AM

Investors probably never paid that much money in a pre-launch. The auctions at the upcoming T.R.A.F.F.I.C. Conference in October should bring some high-figure sales

for further reading: http://www.domainnews.com/en/investo...ain-names.html

Archangel · 10-14-2011, 02:13 PM

I saw the selling price of gay.xxx. What moron would pay that much for a .xxx? I see another flowers.mobi problem for the buyers.

Veronika11 · 10-14-2011, 04:08 PM

Yes, possibly. However, the reason why those two TLDs are were created are completely different. The .mobi domains are no longer needed as most .com now work perfectly on mobile phones (partially because they have the mobile version integrated in the .com and partially because mobile phones have gotten so much better).
.xxx domains, on the other side, were created to have more control over porn content. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how things are going to turn out, since .com domains still host porn content as well(at least for now).

Archangel · 10-14-2011, 04:23 PM

True. That is the reason .xxx is pretty much guaranteed to fail: Usage.

It's easy for an extension to be blocked. There are thousands of porn sites using .com but how can you find them all? On the other end of it: Only porn will likely be on .xxx, thus blocking .xxx would solve many things. At least one country I've heard of plan to block .xxx sites from showing up in their country. More atrocities will occur, surely, and .xxx will be left clinging on life support. What little life it'll have remaining will be cut away by the fact that no one is gonna bother developing .xxx domains. Who'd shut down an established .com for a .xxx? They'll be used as redirects to the .com counterpart and nothing more. Soon, .xxx will be so utterly worthless that you could register one for about $1 a la .info. There are only a few things in this world that are guaranteed. The failure of .xxx could be one of them.

sdsinc · 10-15-2011, 06:00 AM

Total waste of money.
500K for gay.xxx ? That would be the price of the .com.
Losers

Keith · 10-15-2011, 06:26 AM

I especially like the process of selling off names before TM and existing domain holders have a chance to protect theirselves!

HeyNow · 10-15-2011, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Keith

I especially like the process of selling off names before TM and existing domain holders have a chance to protect theirselves!

"theirselves" should be themselves

Keith · 10-15-2011, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by HeyNow

"theirselves" should be themselves

Lol, you should apply to be the grammar mod

nicedomains · 10-15-2011, 01:09 PM

Losers, morons, waste of money, failure...

Wow, you glad you guys have it all figured out already. That crystal ball you're looking into, has it made you a millionare yet?

Let's see who has made it public their investments in .xxx so far... Frank Schilling, Michael Berkens, Corbin Fisher... Hmm, I wonder the last time someone had the gall to call these people losers, morons and failures?

Originally Posted by Archangel

I saw the selling price of gay.xxx. What moron would pay that much for a .xxx? I see another flowers.mobi problem for the buyers.

Originally Posted by Archangel

True. That is the reason .xxx is pretty much guaranteed to fail: Usage.

It's easy for an extension to be blocked. There are thousands of porn sites using .com but how can you find them all? On the other end of it: Only porn will likely be on .xxx, thus blocking .xxx would solve many things. At least one country I've heard of plan to block .xxx sites from showing up in their country. More atrocities will occur, surely, and .xxx will be left clinging on life support. What little life it'll have remaining will be cut away by the fact that no one is gonna bother developing .xxx domains. Who'd shut down an established .com for a .xxx? They'll be used as redirects to the .com counterpart and nothing more. Soon, .xxx will be so utterly worthless that you could register one for about $1 a la .info. There are only a few things in this world that are guaranteed. The failure of .xxx could be one of them.

Originally Posted by sdsinc

Total waste of money.
500K for gay.xxx ? That would be the price of the .com.
Losers

Keith · 10-15-2011, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by nicedomains

Let's see who has made it public their investments in .xxx so far... Frank Schilling, Michael Berkens, Corbin Fisher... Hmm, I wonder the last time someone had the gall to call these people losers, morons and failures?

So it's obvious that you support backdoor deals. The above mentioned people cut deals before TM owners had a fair chance to secure their domains. They should be ashamed of their shady deals and the registry should be held accountable.

Do you really think they would be involved with .xxx if they couldn't cheat the system that the majority goes by?

nicedomains · 10-15-2011, 01:36 PM

It's open game. If you're interested in specific names, get in contact with the registry.

Just like .CO holds back premium names, so does .XXX. Frank had to spring seven figures for his 'premium' portfolio, just because he did so before the landrush doesn't mean anything shady happened.

..and who owns the tm's for one word adult terms?

.

Keith · 10-15-2011, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by nicedomains

It's open game. If you're interested in specific names, get in contact with the registry.

Just like .CO holds back premium names, so does .XXX. Frank had to spring seven figures for his 'premium' portfolio, just because he did so before the landrush doesn't mean anything shady happened.

..and who owns the tm's for one word adult terms?

.

Your last sentence speaks volumes as to your knowledge regarding trademarks.

There is a difference between with-holding premium names and denying TM holders/existing domain holders the right to protect themselves.

sdsinc · 10-15-2011, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by nicedomains

Let's see who has made it public their investments in .xxx so far... Frank Schilling, Michael Berkens, Corbin Fisher... Hmm, I wonder the last time someone had the gall to call these people losers, morons and failures?

Frank reportedly bought about thirty .xxx domains. Deal rumored to be in seven figure range.
elliotsblog.com/frank-schilling-took-risk-on-xxx-8017
Even at low $,$$$,$$$ the average price per domain is pretty high.
Say he spent 2.5M, that is 83K per domain.

Now buying gay.xxx for 500K is like valuing .xxx almost like .com. Pure madness. All that for vanity addresses that will struggle to get traffic. You can buy very solid domains with that kind of money, why take a chance on turds.

nicedomains · 10-15-2011, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Keith

Your last sentence speaks volumes as to your knowledge regarding trademarks.

There is a difference between with-holding premium names and denying TM holders/existing domain holders the right to protect themselves.

Keith, please enlighten me here is a list of Frank's .xxx investments:

amateur.xxx
amateurs.xxx
anal.xxx
asian.xxx
asians.xxx
bollywood.xxx
book.xxx
celeb.xxx
celebs.xxx
chat.xxx
dating.xxx
free.xxx
gratis.xxx
hardcore.xxx
hot.xxx
indian.xxx
latin.xxx
lesbian.xxx
lesbians.xxx
live.xxx
milf.xxx
milfs.xxx
oral.xxx
porno.xxx
pornos.xxx
pu**ies.xxx
pu**y.xxx
sexe.xxx
sexo.xxx
sexy.xxx
video.xxx
videos.xxx
webcam.xxx

Which of these domains do you think have a chance to lose a in UDRP case? Are these not generic keywords? Whose TM is he infringing on? If he's in trouble with these... well we might as well all just call it quits and stop buying domain names.

.

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The purchaser of gay.xxx is an end user, a gay porn filmmaker. I guess he thought that 'turd' was worth the investment.

To him, gay.xxx is a very solid domain. Obviously in his eyes, gay.xxx is a better investment than going after gay.net, gay.org, gay.biz, or any number of keyword+gay.coms.

Originally Posted by sdsinc

...

Now buying gay.xxx for 500K is like valuing .xxx almost like .com. Pure madness. All that for vanity addresses that will struggle to get traffic. You can buy very solid domains with that kind of money, why take a chance on turds.

Archangel · 10-15-2011, 03:23 PM

I assume you have a point. So, where is it?

Originally Posted by nicedomains

Losers, morons, waste of money, failure...

Wow, you glad you guys have it all figured out already. That crystal ball you're looking into, has it made you a millionare yet?

Let's see who has made it public their investments in .xxx so far... Frank Schilling, Michael Berkens, Corbin Fisher... Hmm, I wonder the last time someone had the gall to call these people losers, morons and failures?

Keith · 10-15-2011, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by nicedomains

Which of these domains do you think have a chance to lose a in UDRP case? Are these not generic keywords? Whose TM is he infringing on? .

You've completely missed the point. First of all, generic has nothing to do with what can be trademarked. Apple is just one example of a generic word which can be TMed.

Second of all, it's not the fact that Frank bought the domains which bothers me. It's the fact that any TM holder or existing domain holder of those names had no chance at protecting themselves. Now, assume Frank has existing domains which match the .xxx he purchased. An application should have been filed and then an auction should have taken place if multiple applications were submitted.

Please don't make me search for TM holders of the names which Frank purchased because I'm too tired. However, I gaurentee I could find one or several entities which could claim rights to some of those domains.

---------- Post added at 06:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:32 PM ----------

A TM that just came to mind is pu**y.mobi. That domain was awarded in June 2006 because of an existing TM. That's simply off memory but I could provide loads of TMs on the list you provided.

nicedomains · 10-15-2011, 03:51 PM

Thanks for taking the time to explain Keith, I can somewhat understand where you're coming from and value your opinion.

I disagree that generic has nothing to do with what can be trademarked. What percentage of generic word domains that are taken to UDRP or lawsuit win? I don't know any specifics but I'd venture to say that it's a slim percentage.

Originally Posted by Keith

You've completely missed the point. First of all, generic has nothing to do with what can be trademarked. Apple is just one example of a generic word which can be TMed.

Second of all, it's not the fact that Frank bought the domains which bothers me. It's the fact that any TM holder or existing domain holder of those names had no chance at protecting themselves. Now, assume Frank has existing domains which match the .xxx he purchased. An application should have been filed and then an auction should have taken place if multiple applications were submitted.

Please don't make me search for TM holders of the names which Frank purchased because I'm too tired. However, I gaurentee I could find one or several entities which could claim rights to some of those domains.

---------- Post added at 06:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:32 PM ----------

A TM that just came to mind is pu**y.mobi. That domain was awarded in June 2006 because of an existing TM. That's simply off memory but I could provide loads of TMs on the list you provided.

Keith · 10-15-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by nicedomains

Thanks for taking the time to explain Keith, I can somewhat understand where you're coming from and value your opinion.

I disagree that generic has nothing to do with what can be trademarked. What percentage of generic word domains that are taken to UDRP or lawsuit win? I don't know any specifics but I'd venture to say that it's a slim percentage.

I think the launch of a new extention is quite different from a UDRP where domains have already been established.

.xxx like other new extentions entering the market, offers a process by which TM holders can protect their mark/brand. Imagine if apple.xxx was allowed to be purchased before apple computers had a chance to obtain the domain. While almost all TM holders aren't as big as apple computers, they still deserve a chance at brand protection.

A sunrise phase for TM holders and existing domain holders is worth nothing if names are allocated prior to the first application.

Archangel · 10-15-2011, 04:30 PM

This is a discussion on .xxx but please refrain from posting explicit adult domains unless they are partially obscured with stars ie pu**y.

sdsinc · 10-16-2011, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by nicedomains

The purchaser of gay.xxx is an end user, a gay porn filmmaker. I guess he thought that 'turd' was worth the investment.

To him, gay.xxx is a very solid domain. Obviously in his eyes, gay.xxx is a better investment than going after gay.net, gay.org, gay.biz, or any number of keyword+gay.coms.

In his eyes only. After all, the majority of end users have poor domain names. What is unusual is an end user spending big money on an extension of dubious value. Just because he is an end user doesn't mean he's right or even understands domains. I think he just took a huge gamble.
Never forget that without traffic, domains are useless.

MicroGuy · 10-16-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by Archangel

..please refrain from posting explicit adult domains unless they are partially obscured with stars ie pu**y.

putty?

Aggro · 10-16-2011, 12:53 PM

Some dolts really think Gay.com would be worth only ballpark $500,000 ???

Bwahahaha

nicedomains · 10-17-2011, 09:50 PM

domainnamewire.com/2011/10/17/inside-frank-schillings-1-65m-xxx-purchase/ - Interesting read, Frank Schilling talks about his .XXX investments at TRAFFIC.

Originally Posted by sdsinc

....Never forget that without traffic, domains are useless.

Funny, it's also mentioned in that article the names that Frank has not already leased out are getting some nice TRAFFIC (as in unique visitors). This was one of the main reasons Frank invested in .XXX. How did he know these names would get natural traffic? He answers here: dannosblog.com/2011/09/20/video/

Originally Posted by Aggro

Some dolts really think Gay.com would be worth only ballpark $500,000 ???

Bwahahaha

LOL

.

JB Lions · 10-17-2011, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Archangel

I saw the selling price of gay.xxx. What moron would pay that much for a .xxx? I see another flowers.mobi problem for the buyers.

You just have to add .com to the buyer's name Corbin Fisher. Lots of money in porn, I'm sure this isn't a big deal to him and it's the major term he's targetting. So in the end, it'll probably be profitable for him.

Archangel · 10-18-2011, 11:07 AM

We'll just have to see where .xxx will be in a few years. My guess: it'll be in the ranks of .name.

Originally Posted by JB Lions

You just have to add .com to the buyer's name Corbin Fisher. Lots of money in porn, I'm sure this isn't a big deal to him and it's the major term he's targetting. So in the end, it'll probably be profitable for him.

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Aggro NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: On da streets Posts: 462	Some dolts really think Gay.com would be worth only ballpark $500,000 ??? Bwahahaha The truth hurts. Telling it like it is... Domaining will only ever be a slightly lucrative hobby for most I've come to pi$$ on your cornflakes.. Is Default Loser stalking me?

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Archangel www.randypendleton.com Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Ohio, USA Posts: 7,735	I saw the selling price of gay.xxx. What moron would pay that much for a .xxx? I see another flowers.mobi problem for the buyers.

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Veronika11 NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 54	Yes, possibly. However, the reason why those two TLDs are were created are completely different. The .mobi domains are no longer needed as most .com now work perfectly on mobile phones (partially because they have the mobile version integrated in the .com and partially because mobile phones have gotten so much better). .xxx domains, on the other side, were created to have more control over porn content. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how things are going to turn out, since .com domains still host porn content as well(at least for now).

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Archangel www.randypendleton.com Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Ohio, USA Posts: 7,735	True. That is the reason .xxx is pretty much guaranteed to fail: Usage. It's easy for an extension to be blocked. There are thousands of porn sites using .com but how can you find them all? On the other end of it: Only porn will likely be on .xxx, thus blocking .xxx would solve many things. At least one country I've heard of plan to block .xxx sites from showing up in their country. More atrocities will occur, surely, and .xxx will be left clinging on life support. What little life it'll have remaining will be cut away by the fact that no one is gonna bother developing .xxx domains. Who'd shut down an established .com for a .xxx? They'll be used as redirects to the .com counterpart and nothing more. Soon, .xxx will be so utterly worthless that you could register one for about $1 a la .info. There are only a few things in this world that are guaranteed. The failure of .xxx could be one of them.

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Keith Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: "D" town Posts: 4,159	I especially like the process of selling off names before TM and existing domain holders have a chance to protect theirselves!

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nicedomains NamePros Expert Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 5,271 Follow @NameTalent	It's open game. If you're interested in specific names, get in contact with the registry. Just like .CO holds back premium names, so does .XXX. Frank had to spring seven figures for his 'premium' portfolio, just because he did so before the landrush doesn't mean anything shady happened. ..and who owns the tm's for one word adult terms? .

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Archangel www.randypendleton.com Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Ohio, USA Posts: 7,735	This is a discussion on .xxx but please refrain from posting explicit adult domains unless they are partially obscured with stars ie pu**y.

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