Header/Footer Adv/Disadvantages

Webtwink · 10-29-2003, 01:27 PM

Ok. I know a lot of ppl use header and footers in their pages, but i got a question on headers.

Can you tell me some disadvantages of using header in your pages.

I am thinking like this.

If you use header your title remains the same in all of your pages, which would mean that my search rankings could be hurt as titles are one of the important thinks that google draws its results.

Can anybody explain

Thank You.

Tippy · 10-29-2003, 02:06 PM

I think your thinking is right

I have always been told to have different meta tags for each page describing that particular page, not that I do it

Webtwink · 10-29-2003, 02:08 PM

well yes, meta tags included! but has anybody has found any solution for this? cuz header & footer save a tonne of time

peaudecastor · 10-29-2003, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webtwink
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well yes, meta tags included! but has anybody has found any solution for this? cuz header & footer save a tonne of time

Yes It's easy..

Thats the way I'm doing it..

<html>
<head>
<title>
<meta tags>
</head>

<?php require("header.php"); ?>

<some_specific_page_code>

<?php require("footer.php"); ?>

This way you save a lot of time and your keeping control of your meta-tags and title..

Webtwink · 10-29-2003, 02:35 PM

thnks avenue but........

it would be great if you could show us an example or maybe links to other pages on the internet like tutorial would be great.

A lot appreciated

peaudecastor · 10-29-2003, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webtwink
thnks avenue but........

it would be great if you could show us an example or maybe links to other pages on the internet like tutorial would be great.

A lot appreciated

Well, just tell me what you don't understand in this, and it's will be a pleasure to help you.

Developping on Intranet/Extranet/Internet is my jobs so I can certainly help you

Webtwink · 10-29-2003, 02:46 PM

Ok. I understood <?php require("header.php"); ?> was, <?php require("footer.php"); ?> was but i don't get <some_specific_page_code>. How would you implement it.

For Ex. I had a gaming site. it has header.php and footer.php

I would include it like this:

<?php require("header.php"); ?>
Body
<?php require("footer.php"); ?>

but i don't understand <some_specific_page_code>implementation

Brian · 10-29-2003, 02:52 PM

basicly thats just where you'd put the info that particular page, an if you don't want the same title ect just have the header start with a table and on each page, use metatags ect and after all that call header.php

peaudecastor · 10-29-2003, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webtwink
Ok. I understood <?php require("header.php"); ?> was, <?php require("footer.php"); ?> was but i don't get <some_specific_page_code>. How would you implement it.

For Ex. I had a gaming site. it has header.php and footer.php

I would include it like this:

<?php require("header.php"); ?>
Body
<?php require("footer.php"); ?>

but i don't understand <some_specific_page_code>implementation

You begin with your title information, tags and all (specific to each pages)

Then you go with your header.php
-- The header.php usually include your menu dans the basic layout.

Now, the <some_specific_page_code>

Thats where you put your page specific data. You already have your meta tags, your menu. Then you put the information you want for this specific page.

And then with the footer, you close the tag you have opened in the header for a perfect w3c-compliant page. And you close your SQL connection or your class object.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=9602

Hope this answer your question

redhippo · 10-29-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DotsAvenue
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You begin with your title information, tags and all (specific to each pages)

Then you go with your header.php
-- The header.php usually include your menu dans the basic layout.

Now, the <some_specific_page_code>

Thats where you put your page specific data. You already have your meta tags, your menu. Then you put the information you want for this specific page.

And then with the footer, you close the tag you have opened in the header for a perfect w3c-compliant page. And you close your SQL connection or your class object.

Hope this answer your question

interesting

this will keep the ranking?

peaudecastor · 10-29-2003, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redhippo
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interesting this will keep the ranking?

You mean ?

If your speaking about PageRank. Google only matters about client-side code. He doesn't care at all about the way you achieve this code.

Webtwink · 10-29-2003, 04:43 PM

Ok. i got the most of it.

Quote:

Originally posted by DotsAvenue

Now, the <some_specific_page_code>

Thats where you put your page specific data. You already have your meta tags, your menu. Then you put the information you want for this specific page.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=9602

How do you do the above. I know you have provided what it does. How do i put the info in the specific page?

peaudecastor · 10-29-2003, 04:50 PM

<table width="50%">
<tr bgcolor="red">
<td>List of my offerings</td>
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=9602
</tr>
<tr>
<td>cool domains</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>bad domains</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Unaffordable domains</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Body location for hot woman</td>
</tr>
</table>

The way you usually do your web pages

BTW, if you need a developper for some of your pages. I can do it for you

Webtwink · 10-29-2003, 04:57 PM

I don't quite understand what you mean by below post. It is just html, i don't see any code in it

or anything like that????

Quote:

Originally posted by DotsAvenue
<table width="50%">
<tr bgcolor="red">
<td>List of my offerings</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>cool domains</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>bad domains</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Unaffordable domains</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Body location for hot woman</td>
</tr>
</table>

The way you usually do your web pages

BTW, if you need a developper for some of your pages. I can do it for you

peaudecastor · 10-29-2003, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webtwink
I don't quite understand what you mean by below post. It is just html, i don't see any code in it or anything like that????

Well php code will output you html...
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I suggest you buy a good PHP book.

Webtwink · 10-30-2003, 08:32 AM

i sent you PM

peaudecastor · 10-30-2003, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webtwink
i sent you PM

Yeah I know, I've come to the chat just a little late..

delta4 · 10-30-2003, 11:50 AM

it´s easy!

i do like this:

have two files called header.inc.php and footer.inc.php

then for example in a news page we would have:

<?php
$maintitle = "NamePros.com is number one";

include ("header.inc.php");
?>

your html code goes here

<?php
include ("footer.inc.php");
?>

and in the header.inc.php i would have:

<html>
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<head>
<title><?php echo $maintitle ?></title>
</head>
<body>

and that´s it. i use a template system but the basics are here

peaudecastor · 10-30-2003, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lfrias
it´s easy!

i do like this:

have two files called header.inc.php and footer.inc.php

then for example in a news page we would have:

<?php
$maintitle = "NamePros.com is number one";

include ("header.inc.php");
?>

your html code goes here
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=9602

<?php
include ("footer.inc.php");
?>

and in the header.inc.php i would have:

<html>
<head>
<title><?php echo $maintitle ?></title>
</head>
<body>

and that´s it. i use a template system but the basics are here

This is better.. maybe just add $keyword and $description too...

delta4 · 10-30-2003, 12:03 PM

you can add all sort of things.

in my cms i already extract this data from a mysql database.

jj2ii3344 · 10-30-2003, 02:51 PM

Nice work lfrias!
I program all of pages in the same way as you do!

alien · 10-30-2003, 09:24 PM

Instead of <?php echo $maintitle ?>, you can simply use <?=$maintitle?>. Much neater (IMHO).

redhippo · 10-30-2003, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alien
Instead of <?php echo $maintitle ?>, you can simply use <?=$maintitle?>. Much neater (IMHO).

WOW. great stuff. not sure what u guys are up and about.
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but now I know where to get help for
PHP.

any good book on PHP to recommend??

peaudecastor · 10-30-2003, 09:57 PM

I really like www.php.net

It's only a reference. It's not teaching you the php minding..

But every functionnality is there

redhippo · 10-31-2003, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DotsAvenue
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=9602
I really like www.php.net

It's only a reference. It's not teaching you the php minding..

But every functionnality is there

been there. find it slighty confusing. all i want is to set-up/install
my forum fast

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Webtwink Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,158	Header/Footer Adv/Disadvantages Ok. I know a lot of ppl use header and footers in their pages, but i got a question on headers. Can you tell me some disadvantages of using header in your pages. I am thinking like this. If you use header your title remains the same in all of your pages, which would mean that my search rankings could be hurt as titles are one of the important thinks that google draws its results. Can anybody explain Thank You.

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Webtwink Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,158	thnks thnks avenue but........ it would be great if you could show us an example or maybe links to other pages on the internet like tutorial would be great. A lot appreciated

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Brian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Charlottesville Virginia Posts: 2,317 Follow @laughtodeath	basicly thats just where you'd put the info that particular page, an if you don't want the same title ect just have the header start with a table and on each page, use metatags ect and after all that call header.php __________________ Free Games Funny Jokes and Pictures

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delta4 NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 170	it´s easy! i do like this: have two files called header.inc.php and footer.inc.php then for example in a news page we would have: <?php $maintitle = "NamePros.com is number one"; include ("header.inc.php"); ?> your html code goes here <?php include ("footer.inc.php"); ?> and in the header.inc.php i would have: <html> ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=9602 <head> <title><?php echo $maintitle ?></title> </head> <body> and that´s it. i use a template system but the basics are here __________________ Photoshop Tutorials Directory

Header/Footer Adv/Disadvantages

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10-29-2003, 02:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tippy NamePros Expert Join Date: May 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 7,100	I think your thinking is right I have always been told to have different meta tags for each page describing that particular page, not that I do it

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Webtwink Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,158	well yes, meta tags included! but has anybody has found any solution for this? cuz header & footer save a tonne of time

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Webtwink Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,158	Ok. I understood <?php require("header.php"); ?> was, <?php require("footer.php"); ?> was but i don't get <some_specific_page_code>. How would you implement it. For Ex. I had a gaming site. it has header.php and footer.php I would include it like this: <?php require("header.php"); ?> Body <?php require("footer.php"); ?> but i don't understand <some_specific_page_code>implementation

10-30-2003, 08:32 AM	THREAD STARTER #16 (permalink)
Webtwink Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,158	i sent you PM

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delta4 NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 170	you can add all sort of things. in my cms i already extract this data from a mysql database. __________________ Photoshop Tutorials Directory

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jj2ii3344 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,370	Nice work lfrias! I program all of pages in the same way as you do! __________________ www.canonlens.ws Updated daily - Get Canon lens reviews and good deals on new/used Canon lens from CanonLens.ws![/SIZE]

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alien NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: .au/.sg Posts: 221	Instead of <?php echo $maintitle ?>, you can simply use <?=$maintitle?>. Much neater (IMHO). __________________ @ PageRank.net - Search Engine Optimization

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peaudecastor quÃ©bÃ©cois libre Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Trois-Rivieres, QuÃ©bec Posts: 558	I really like www.php.net It's only a reference. It's not teaching you the php minding.. But every functionnality is there __________________ French / Quebec domain name portfolio Le Blogue du QuÃ©bec

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