Noomle or Whypark?

Zutroy · 02-22-2010, 08:01 PM

Hi I am new here and just making my first couple of posts.

I was wondering which is better noomle or whypark, I have heard fairly good things about noomle and not so good things about why park, how similar are they, are they both set and forget or do they require much manual updating, will they automatically post content for me, are they both essentially autoblogs? How much of a problem is the duplicate content issue? What’s the risk of been delisted by google? Anyway I was just wondering what your thoughts and experiences were?

Many thanks in advance, this really is a wonderful forum.

All the best

John

ARonald · 02-22-2010, 08:10 PM

I think whypark has problems getting indexed in bing. Noomle is not an auto solution you need to add your own content. Whypark provides a yahoo ad feed, With noomle you need to use your own adsense/chitika/etc account and you keep 100% of revenue generated.

Between Whypark and Noomle I would choose Noomle.

Blitz · 02-22-2010, 08:13 PM

I personally would recommend Noomle. I have made several sites with the Noomle system and am ranked near the top of search engines with a few of my sites. Just make sure you have original articles (not copy and paste) on your site and you should be ok. The Noomle forum gives you amazing support with almost any questions you might have designing a site. Try the different templates until you find one that works for you. Good luck and have fun

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/website-development/641245-noomle-or-whypark.html

I would not recommend systems with auto-articles as search engines don't like duplicate content. Take the time to write your own or look in the web development section here and hire someone.

Zutroy · 02-22-2010, 10:19 PM

Thanks guys, also are there any other alternatives that are worth considering, I don’t suppose there is anything out there similar that allows you to use word press is there?

the dot stop · 02-22-2010, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by tradingnames.org

I don’t suppose there is anything out there similar that allows you to use word press is there?

Yes there is.
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flubuzz · 02-23-2010, 03:51 AM

I've been using Nooble as well and so far they have been doing good job for my websites. In the forum, the mods and admins are quite friendly and are always ready to help. I would definitely suggest you Nooble.

Ramblr · 02-23-2010, 08:03 AM

I also definitely suggest Noomle. I did a search a couple of days ago and one of the top ranked pages was a Noomle page and I have never come across a WhyPark page searching through google.

synapsis · 02-23-2010, 01:13 PM

Personally, I use Noomle. Too many parking/minisite systems try and sell you on the set and forget mentality and sure that would be great if the internet constantly stayed in the year 1994. But as you know, Google is pretty much a living organism because it is constantly changing. Because of that, you can get hurt big time if the system you're with doesn't keep up with it. That's why Noomle works as compared to others.

As for duplicate content, it doesn't take a genius to realize that if your the 2nd person who Google found using that article, you would be different from the 200th person. Google keeps tracks and tabs on all of that stuff. Yet some systems still sell people on the duplicate content illusion that you're sites not going to get hit bad. Point is, unique content is and always will pay off while duplicate content filled sites will and are starting to become another internet casualty.

CrackFeed.Com · 02-23-2010, 02:10 PM

synapsis is 100% correct. I would just create a custom page to park the domain on. Through up some useful links and maybe an article and 3 adsense blocks. Link to outside resources, Google likes those who spread the wealth.

Zutroy · 02-23-2010, 06:49 PM

Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it. Will whypark sites rank as well as noomle if you add your own unique content? I take it you can add your own unique content to your why park site?

**lll** · 02-23-2010, 07:41 PM

I don't use WhyPark just Noomle for now!

Dotplanners · 02-24-2010, 06:21 AM

Whypark is what I use, easy, free, and custom pages are a breeze to add. I've had over half of my 220 domains at whypark already indexed on google.

Noomle... eh... get to work!

Even if you want to upgrade to managed setups at Whypark, it's only $29.95 a month. They do the work for you. They have the largest customized and established content database of all the services.

***mwzd*** · 02-24-2010, 06:50 AM

This is the second thread I've come across asking the same question.

Basically whypark and noomle are different creatures... with whypark the content is already there, with noomle you have to add content.

So it depends on the number of domains you need developed and how much time you can devote to it. Personally I'd recommend wordpress, best of the lot.

Zutroy · 02-24-2010, 10:48 PM

Yeah I have to say I like wordpress best, but so far I have not been able to find anything like noomle or why park that offers wordpress, I know I could pay for shared hosting but you can only really have about ten wordpress installations per shared account, any more and your host would not tolerate the resources you are using and if you have a couple of hundred domain names it could cost you more than you would make if you did not have the traffic to pay for it. The only other option is perhaps some kind of free wordpress hosting but whether this would be any good is another issue, if paid shared hosting is only likely to stand about 10 wordpress installations per account, then I can’t see a free hosting account tolerating a couple of hundred. What’s your thoughts has anybody found free wordpress hosting that fits the bill or a parking alternative that lets you host wordpress on your own domains?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641245

Also just to clarify the custom content on whypark is this the content you can add yourself and make unique?

***mwzd*** · 02-25-2010, 02:08 AM

You can get a reseller hosting account for around $30/mo and host 100s, if not 1000s, of wp sites on it.

The issue comes when you need to update 100s of wp sites... that's the big problem. We believe we've come out with a solution, but like all good things, its not for everyone.

You can add custom content to whypark too. Custom content is one of the holy grails of seo, but it needs to be used judiciously too. $10/ article x 5 articles x 1000 sites = $50,000 - not for the faint hearted.

Zutroy · 02-25-2010, 10:27 AM

I see, when I spoke to a sales rep at host gator they told me that you get no more server resources with your reseller account than you would with a shared, which they said is enough to host about 10-15 wordpress installations max. Have I been misinformed?

***mwzd*** · 02-25-2010, 11:07 AM

Can't speak for anyone else, but we have a $10/mo account where someone has 90 wp blogs.

I'm sure you can find reseller accounts here on np itself which will allow you at least 500 wp blogs, if not more.

And if the traffic reaches that level, why not a dedicated server? How can you lose... more traffic = more revenues.

Zutroy · 02-25-2010, 03:00 PM

Oh absolutely if you are getting the traffic then yes it would easily justify VPS or dedicated, but been as these would be new sites it may take a while before they would cover that cost.

90 separate installations of wordpress on 90 different domains for $10 a month, I would happily pay for a couple of them, like I say hostgator told me I could have a max of 10-15, if you don’t mind me asking who is that with?

Thanks for your help, I really do appreciate your advice.

radioz · 02-26-2010, 12:47 AM

Quote:

I see, when I spoke to a sales rep at host gator they told me that you get no more server resources with your reseller account than you would with a shared, which they said is enough to host about 10-15 wordpress installations max. Have I been misinformed?

So, what exactly is the definition of 'unlimited' that they advertise on there website (Web Hosting Services, Reseller Hosting, and Dedicated Servers by HostGator)??!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641245

Hosting 'unlimited' and the dictionary term seem to be very different things!

As to Noomle, I started to set up one site and dropped out after about an hour. I will probably go back but it is real work!

Zutroy · 02-26-2010, 09:29 AM

I know what you mean personally I can’t stand it when they make the claim “unlimited”, every hosting package has limits, I would much rather know exactly what it is that you get and are allowed.

Thanks for the PM Samit your help has been much appreciated.

Jaco · 02-26-2010, 10:07 AM

Noomle sites can work (impressively), but the only thing that scares me about Noomle is the potential for mass blacklisting.

We really got our asses kicked after G canned BANS stores and some nice domains took a real hit to the ribs. A lot of what Noomle is doing is very much 'click gamesmanship' keyword splog type development, as opposed to delivering anything resembling a meaningful user experience- which is precisely the sort of thing that G deeply hates. It wouldn't take much to swat Noomle sites all together, which could theoretically impact the domains that were used with Noomle sites if they wind up on the G shitlist.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641245

Every domain we own is decent. We own no 'disposable' domains. While our parking rev's are down, I'm thinking long and hard about saddling any number of four and five figure names with "theme-development: to boost revenue, that could eventually impact the SE efficacy of the domain itself. I don't want to burn the furniture for the sake of nickles and dimes.

NameAffect · 03-12-2010, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by ARonald

I think whypark has problems getting indexed in bing. Noomle is not an auto solution you need to add your own content. Whypark provides a yahoo ad feed, With noomle you need to use your own adsense/chitika/etc account and you keep 100% of revenue generated.

Between Whypark and Noomle I would choose Noomle.

I don't think Bing indexes Noomle sites either. I checked some of the sites Noomle members were showcasing and I couldn't find any sites that were indexed.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641245

The reason I looked is that the domains I have with AOM shops rank really well in Bing, based stictly on domain name. I thought Noomle may be an option for my non product domains to get some Bing traffic, but after looking at some noomle sites it doesn't seem to be the case.

I started using Whypark again in Nov. I am more than pleased. Getting paid every two weeks is nice. Rev is way up from sedo. I sold 2 domains last month from my for sale link (saving the sedo fee) and some link ads from a direct inquiry.

The bulk set up had my domains set up very quickly. Some needed tweaking, but overall pretty smooth. That would have taken me months with the noomle interface. Adding domains and individual articles etc.

With that said, I think both systems are as good as what you do with them.
If you are looking to set up a large number of domains immediately, WhyPark wins hands down.
If you want to set up a few sites spend some time on content and customization both systems are capable but noomle would be much easier, unless you have coding skills - In which case you would probably just make your own site.

People talk about WhyPark and unique content. It is not difficult to add a few pages of unique content. Plus you can always turn off the whypark generated articles. 100% unique content.

Noomle is a good option. The guys there are always trying to get better, keep their form active, help people as much as they can etc. but for me, Whypark is much easier - both to set up and to add unique content.

One of the things that I didn't like about noomle is the news feed. Just didn't like it. Felt it didn't match the pages. But, They have that as an option now - it can be turned off- Good choice.

As to the OP. Try them both. They both have good an bad points. I prefer Whypark, but that is my preference. Only you can answer this question of which is better.

**BizBot** · 03-12-2010, 08:29 AM

I use WhyPark and Noomle. I like both.

There are some differences and similarities.

WhyPark has their own ad feed which has been paying very well for me the last several months.
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Noomle you must use your own advertising such as AdSense.

Both my Noomle and WP sites get indexed at Google. Some of my WP sites are ranking #1 for my keywords and Noomle sites do well too.

Bing no longer indexes any of mine. At one time they did.

You need to use custom articles or rewrite articles to avoid duplicate content issues at both. Turn off the whypark generated articles or set to -0-.

The WP free service is very limited. You should upgrade to a paid plan so you can customize your templates.

Noomle is free but you should contribute to get the most features and to support Noomle.

WP pays twice a month and by PayPal. Twice is nice!

Noomle is always adding many new cool features.

Both have great customer support via their forums.

It depends on your names, your skills and how much time you are willing to spend as to which one is best for you.

Or you can use both like me!

moguldomains · 03-13-2010, 05:38 PM

I like WhyPark... It's simple and yes, you have to use your own content.... Custom content gets expensive, so be judicious with allowing others to write content. Also playing around with devhub. It's pretty simple, but you should also add original content to your domains. My advice is to keep playing with the different systems. Get into a rhythm and go for it.... Once you establish your routine, you'll know exactly what you're going to do with your domains before you buy them.

CHARLOTTE1 · 01-18-2011, 12:31 PM

Like most naive people I thought whypark did all the work over 500 domains worked well for a few months then pow! Google banned me and the ads disappeared of the why park sites. Ifell for it because of their ads...we supply content etc...they should also like cigarette packs ad a warning about duplicate content...very unprofession and very defensive when I questioned them about this. I think they work on a numbers game suck in everyone and then just pick the best sites nice for their ad revenue! and we do all the work. For some reason the site I did have original articles on is still ok, but how can one do it to 500 sites.... whypark.com

dont fall for it if you have plenty of sites...

02-22-2010, 08:01 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Zutroy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 293	Noomle or Whypark? Hi I am new here and just making my first couple of posts. I was wondering which is better noomle or whypark, I have heard fairly good things about noomle and not so good things about why park, how similar are they, are they both set and forget or do they require much manual updating, will they automatically post content for me, are they both essentially autoblogs? How much of a problem is the duplicate content issue? What’s the risk of been delisted by google? Anyway I was just wondering what your thoughts and experiences were? Many thanks in advance, this really is a wonderful forum. All the best John Last edited by Zutroy; 02-22-2010 at 08:09 PM. Reason: Added an extra little bit

02-22-2010, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Blitz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,309	I personally would recommend Noomle. I have made several sites with the Noomle system and am ranked near the top of search engines with a few of my sites. Just make sure you have original articles (not copy and paste) on your site and you should be ok. The Noomle forum gives you amazing support with almost any questions you might have designing a site. Try the different templates until you find one that works for you. Good luck and have fun ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/website-development/641245-noomle-or-whypark.html I would not recommend systems with auto-articles as search engines don't like duplicate content. Take the time to write your own or look in the web development section here and hire someone. __________________ .... Last edited by Blitz; 02-23-2010 at 10:19 AM.

02-23-2010, 03:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
flubuzz New Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7	I will go for Nooble I've been using Nooble as well and so far they have been doing good job for my websites. In the forum, the mods and admins are quite friendly and are always ready to help. I would definitely suggest you Nooble. __________________ Web Hosting India

02-23-2010, 08:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ramblr NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 250	I also definitely suggest Noomle. I did a search a couple of days ago and one of the top ranked pages was a Noomle page and I have never come across a WhyPark page searching through google. __________________ KillerWhale.info - HolyChurches.com - Girls Furniture - RestaurantPrices.com - iBlogs.net - Automatic Dive Watch

02-23-2010, 01:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
synapsis NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 134	Personally, I use Noomle. Too many parking/minisite systems try and sell you on the set and forget mentality and sure that would be great if the internet constantly stayed in the year 1994. But as you know, Google is pretty much a living organism because it is constantly changing. Because of that, you can get hurt big time if the system you're with doesn't keep up with it. That's why Noomle works as compared to others. As for duplicate content, it doesn't take a genius to realize that if your the 2nd person who Google found using that article, you would be different from the 200th person. Google keeps tracks and tabs on all of that stuff. Yet some systems still sell people on the duplicate content illusion that you're sites not going to get hit bad. Point is, unique content is and always will pay off while duplicate content filled sites will and are starting to become another internet casualty. __________________ Coat Size \| Coat Conversion Size \| Mens Coat Size \| Jacket Size \| Trench Coat Size Womens Coat Size \| Lab Coat Size \| Dress Size Chart \| Suit Size

02-22-2010, 08:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
ARonald NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 188	I think whypark has problems getting indexed in bing. Noomle is not an auto solution you need to add your own content. Whypark provides a yahoo ad feed, With noomle you need to use your own adsense/chitika/etc account and you keep 100% of revenue generated. Between Whypark and Noomle I would choose Noomle.

02-22-2010, 10:19 PM	THREAD STARTER #4 (permalink)
Zutroy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 293	Thanks guys, also are there any other alternatives that are worth considering, I don’t suppose there is anything out there similar that allows you to use word press is there?

02-23-2010, 02:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
CrackFeed.Com Account Suspended Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 650 Follow @CrackFeed	synapsis is 100% correct. I would just create a custom page to park the domain on. Through up some useful links and maybe an article and 3 adsense blocks. Link to outside resources, Google likes those who spread the wealth.

02-23-2010, 06:49 PM	THREAD STARTER #10 (permalink)
Zutroy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 293	Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it. Will whypark sites rank as well as noomle if you add your own unique content? I take it you can add your own unique content to your why park site?

02-23-2010, 07:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
lll ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,362	I don't use WhyPark just Noomle for now! __________________

02-24-2010, 06:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
Dotplanners NamePros Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 105	Whypark is what I use, easy, free, and custom pages are a breeze to add. I've had over half of my 220 domains at whypark already indexed on google. Noomle... eh... get to work! Even if you want to upgrade to managed setups at Whypark, it's only $29.95 a month. They do the work for you. They have the largest customized and established content database of all the services. __________________ Stephen Douglas BLOG: http://www.successclick.com Domain Industry Consultant DomainRelevance.com

02-24-2010, 06:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
*mwzd* Extension Agnostic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,915 Follow @mwzd	This is the second thread I've come across asking the same question. Basically whypark and noomle are different creatures... with whypark the content is already there, with noomle you have to add content. So it depends on the number of domains you need developed and how much time you can devote to it. Personally I'd recommend wordpress, best of the lot.

02-24-2010, 10:48 PM	THREAD STARTER #14 (permalink)
Zutroy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 293	Yeah I have to say I like wordpress best, but so far I have not been able to find anything like noomle or why park that offers wordpress, I know I could pay for shared hosting but you can only really have about ten wordpress installations per shared account, any more and your host would not tolerate the resources you are using and if you have a couple of hundred domain names it could cost you more than you would make if you did not have the traffic to pay for it. The only other option is perhaps some kind of free wordpress hosting but whether this would be any good is another issue, if paid shared hosting is only likely to stand about 10 wordpress installations per account, then I can’t see a free hosting account tolerating a couple of hundred. What’s your thoughts has anybody found free wordpress hosting that fits the bill or a parking alternative that lets you host wordpress on your own domains? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641245 Also just to clarify the custom content on whypark is this the content you can add yourself and make unique?

02-25-2010, 02:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
*mwzd* Extension Agnostic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,915 Follow @mwzd	You can get a reseller hosting account for around $30/mo and host 100s, if not 1000s, of wp sites on it. The issue comes when you need to update 100s of wp sites... that's the big problem. We believe we've come out with a solution, but like all good things, its not for everyone. You can add custom content to whypark too. Custom content is one of the holy grails of seo, but it needs to be used judiciously too. $10/ article x 5 articles x 1000 sites = $50,000 - not for the faint hearted.

02-25-2010, 10:27 AM	THREAD STARTER #16 (permalink)
Zutroy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 293	I see, when I spoke to a sales rep at host gator they told me that you get no more server resources with your reseller account than you would with a shared, which they said is enough to host about 10-15 wordpress installations max. Have I been misinformed?

02-25-2010, 11:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
*mwzd* Extension Agnostic Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,915 Follow @mwzd	Can't speak for anyone else, but we have a $10/mo account where someone has 90 wp blogs. I'm sure you can find reseller accounts here on np itself which will allow you at least 500 wp blogs, if not more. And if the traffic reaches that level, why not a dedicated server? How can you lose... more traffic = more revenues.

02-25-2010, 03:00 PM	THREAD STARTER #18 (permalink)
Zutroy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 293	Oh absolutely if you are getting the traffic then yes it would easily justify VPS or dedicated, but been as these would be new sites it may take a while before they would cover that cost. 90 separate installations of wordpress on 90 different domains for $10 a month, I would happily pay for a couple of them, like I say hostgator told me I could have a max of 10-15, if you don’t mind me asking who is that with? Thanks for your help, I really do appreciate your advice.

02-26-2010, 09:29 AM	THREAD STARTER #20 (permalink)
Zutroy NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 293	I know what you mean personally I can’t stand it when they make the claim “unlimited”, every hosting package has limits, I would much rather know exactly what it is that you get and are allowed. Thanks for the PM Samit your help has been much appreciated.

02-26-2010, 10:07 AM	#21 (permalink)
Jaco Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,442	Noomle sites can work (impressively), but the only thing that scares me about Noomle is the potential for mass blacklisting. We really got our asses kicked after G canned BANS stores and some nice domains took a real hit to the ribs. A lot of what Noomle is doing is very much 'click gamesmanship' keyword splog type development, as opposed to delivering anything resembling a meaningful user experience- which is precisely the sort of thing that G deeply hates. It wouldn't take much to swat Noomle sites all together, which could theoretically impact the domains that were used with Noomle sites if they wind up on the G shitlist. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641245 Every domain we own is decent. We own no 'disposable' domains. While our parking rev's are down, I'm thinking long and hard about saddling any number of four and five figure names with "theme-development: to boost revenue, that could eventually impact the SE efficacy of the domain itself. I don't want to burn the furniture for the sake of nickles and dimes. Last edited by Jaco; 02-26-2010 at 10:13 AM.

03-12-2010, 08:29 AM	#23 (permalink)
BizBot Forum Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 702	I use WhyPark and Noomle. I like both. There are some differences and similarities. WhyPark has their own ad feed which has been paying very well for me the last several months. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=641245 Noomle you must use your own advertising such as AdSense. Both my Noomle and WP sites get indexed at Google. Some of my WP sites are ranking #1 for my keywords and Noomle sites do well too. Bing no longer indexes any of mine. At one time they did. You need to use custom articles or rewrite articles to avoid duplicate content issues at both. Turn off the whypark generated articles or set to -0-. The WP free service is very limited. You should upgrade to a paid plan so you can customize your templates. Noomle is free but you should contribute to get the most features and to support Noomle. WP pays twice a month and by PayPal. Twice is nice! Noomle is always adding many new cool features. Both have great customer support via their forums. It depends on your names, your skills and how much time you are willing to spend as to which one is best for you. Or you can use both like me! __________________ Certified Public Accountants \| J Yoga \| Barbecue Beans \| HUD Foreclosures Watkins Real Estate \| Social Security Attorney \| Lords Prayer

03-13-2010, 05:38 PM	#24 (permalink)
moguldomains NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 137	I like WhyPark... It's simple and yes, you have to use your own content.... Custom content gets expensive, so be judicious with allowing others to write content. Also playing around with devhub. It's pretty simple, but you should also add original content to your domains. My advice is to keep playing with the different systems. Get into a rhythm and go for it.... Once you establish your routine, you'll know exactly what you're going to do with your domains before you buy them. __________________ MogulDomains.com

01-18-2011, 12:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
CHARLOTTE1 First Time Poster! Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1	Why Park Sucks Like most naive people I thought whypark did all the work over 500 domains worked well for a few months then pow! Google banned me and the ads disappeared of the why park sites. Ifell for it because of their ads...we supply content etc...they should also like cigarette packs ad a warning about duplicate content...very unprofession and very defensive when I questioned them about this. I think they work on a numbers game suck in everyone and then just pick the best sites nice for their ad revenue! and we do all the work. For some reason the site I did have original articles on is still ok, but how can one do it to 500 sites.... whypark.com dont fall for it if you have plenty of sites...

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