More money from developing or selling domains?

08-21-2009, 10:56 AM

Okay so I am wondering what do you personally make more money on in a given year - purchasing domains or the development of domains (adsense/affiliates/advertising/etc.).

To go with that answer - is this your full-time, part-time, or free/extra-time gig

I was just wondering, because I am starting to really do my homework.

Because I am a graphic designer & marketing manager. I have been interested in domains for the past 2.5 years and have been buying some, going forward I have a plan, my first year I want to take:

40 domains - develop them with a goal of an average of $1 a day, that comes out to $14,600.

From there I am going to step it up the next year raising my goals. If anyone is still reading... would this interest you? I am also thinking I might start a blog of my plans,trials,tribulations, and thoughts.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/website-development/604868-more-money-from-developing-selling-domains.html

Wondering if anyone out there would give it a read.

Jaco · 08-21-2009, 11:52 AM

The only reason I buy domains is for development, so I guess development. The ones I do 'flip' show a decent return, but if it's a good name, that's kinda like burning the furniture. I much, much prefer wool to mutton. For me, it's all about the dev.

$1 a day isn't as easy as it sounds, but if you're decent at development and SEO and own the right name platforms, then it becomes easy.

steveteva · 08-21-2009, 11:54 AM

More money by selling because you don't have to invest a dime on development, hosting, contents, time consuming jobs..... Also to benefits from earnings (affiliate, ads...) you need to spend lot of time on SEO but if your domain name is Generic and have high types in then it's fine otherwise it's better to sell domains rather than develop a website waiting for eanings. Some web designers have found a way to make money with domains by doing what we call website flipping, they develop website and sell it witin a network of famous forum or ebay.

Jaco · 08-21-2009, 12:10 PM

"Domainia" isn't sustainable, where people with IQ's of 90 can make 50X returns by trading sardines.
Development of meaningful information channels and earning from your control over the eyeballs is very sustainable.

08-21-2009, 12:12 PM

Interesting incites.

I feel like there isn't much to development, no offense.

I really feel like development is just planning, persistence, and time.

Jaco · 08-21-2009, 12:15 PM

There ISN'T much to development.
Hell, with sourcing, you don't even have to know anything to get it done!

"The soak" is the big one... Sometimes, you're developing something today that might not generate a fantastic revenue stream for 2, 3, 4 years. Given the way search engines emphasize trust and age, this is getting more and more important. This is also what separates the men from the boys, as impetuous children don't have the attention span for this to invest their efforts in something that doesn't generate an immediate return.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604868
It may generate a more reliable return and offer a far more durable revenue stream, but since the seeds don't sprout NOWNOWNOW, they go join up with whatever mania has the largest population of like-minded idiots.

Development isn't "hard" nor is it "expensive". It's just work.

08-21-2009, 12:24 PM

Well said Dongsman.

So what do you think of my development blog/case study idea?

Following and documenting all my work in going for a goal of 40 domains in 1 year earning $1 each.

intheflow · 08-21-2009, 12:28 PM

Yes, I agree, $1 /day is not that easy for 40 + domains. I found I can do that with one or two sites fairly easily, but as my sites increased, the average went way down.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604868

It's all about targeted traffic in my opinion. If you can generate tons of traffic then the money will follow. Even my ugly sites make money if they are receiving some decent targeted traffic.

Selling domains is much cleaner and in some ways easier. A combo of the two is also highly effective. A domain with backlinks and a high PR that ranks high for a competitive keyword will be worth much more than an undeveloped domain. A company that is spending lots of money on the Adwords content network will likely see the value of such a site/domain.

The tough decision is whether to sell or not! Take a nice 'one time' payment, or keep the property and collect the residual income?

Good luck with your sites and blog.

08-21-2009, 01:03 PM

Thank you very much! If anyone is interested in my project here are the 40 domains I am going to develop: (there are a couple stinkers in there but, I am going to see what I can do with them)

1. ADVICEBLACKJACK.COM
2. BARTENDEREMPLOYMENT.COM
3. BRIDESMAIDSGIFTS.INFO
4. BUILDMUSCLESQUICK.COM
5. CANCOMPACTOR.COM
6. CANDLEGIFT.INFO
7. COLLLEGESCHOLARSHIP.INFO
8. CREDITREPORTREPAIR.INFO
9. DATINGHELP.INFO
10. DEVELOPMUSCLES.COM
11. DIGITALCAMCORDERS.INFO
12. ELECTRONICSPARTS.INFO
13. ELECTRONICSPROJECTS.INFO
14. FAXPRINTERSCANNER.COM
15. FINANCECOURSES.INFO
16. FISHEGGS.INFO
17. FLIGHTBEST.COM
18. FLOWERGIRLDRESSES.INFO
19. GETWELLGIFTBASKETS.INFO
20. GIFTFORMAN.INFO
21. GIFTSTOMAKE.INFO
22. GIFTTOMAKE.COM
23. GREENHOUSEGARDEN.NET
24. IMPORTCUBANCIGARS.COM
25. INTERVIEWTECHNIQUES.INFO
26. IRONCHIMENEAS.COM
27. IRONFURNITURE.INFO
28. LISTOFJOBS.INFO
29. MAINTENANCEJOBS.INFO
30. MOTIVATECHILDREN.COM
31. PURPLEHEARTS.INFO
32. RECRUITERJOBS.INFO
33. SAVINGSCASH.COM
34. SPAGIFTBASKETS.INFO
35. SUGARGLIDERFACTS.COM
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604868
36. TIPSNETWORKING.COM
37. VEGETABLEPLANTS.INFO
38. WAITRESSJOBS.INFO
39. WEDDINGCENTERPIECES.INFO
40. WEDDINGGIFTBASKETS.INFO

(oh and also let me point out, $1 a day is the average I am going for, one could be 1.25 a day and one could be .25 a day and they even out)

HuntingMoon · 08-21-2009, 05:03 PM

good luck with your quest. you'll probably get some good results on some names, flip some and drop some others over time.

garptrader · 08-21-2009, 05:20 PM

I'm still getting my feet wet with development but as others have pointed out making a $1 a day per site is not as easy as it sounds. Google does give a significant search engine boost to exact match phrases for .com and .net domains and other extensions still receive some benefit (more experienced developers seem to comment that .org and .info get good results but I have noticed .tv doesn't get as good results). In either case, you will have to check the search volume and competition for the domains you noted and start with the ones with the best potential - lowest competition and highest search volume. You can still get a fair amount of traffic for longer-tail terms even if your site isn't on page one for the high-volume search phrase. One site of mine is only on page seven of Google for the one-word search but receives traffic for dozens of phrases which include that one word. Monetization of traffic is not so easy. Click through rates for Adsense and affiliates are very low. Best of luck.

08-22-2009, 07:42 AM

Thanks everyone!

**enlytend** · 08-22-2009, 09:31 AM

Quote:

40 domains - develop them with a goal of an average of $1 a day, that comes out to $14,600.

You're better off developing a small number of QUALITY sites and aiming for $10-20+ / day - it's a lot easier to maintain and more likely to produce stable income.

Quote:

Click through rates for Adsense and affiliates are very low

You can get good click through (and conversion) for affiliate programs IF your site delivers exactly what the visitor is looking for.

intheflow · 08-22-2009, 08:51 PM

Thats a nice list of names for developing, good keywords and with a little onsite optimization and linkbuilding you will have some traffic.

08-23-2009, 09:33 AM

Thank you again everyone.

As to developing quality naes and shooting for $10 a day and such. I am taking the approach that my stat off names are pretty good. Especially ones such as: DigitalCamcorders.info, MotivateChildren.com, and FlowerGirlDresses.info.

So with all these sites the AVERAGE I am shooting for is $1.

Then after that goal is accomplished I intend to try and shoot for $2 a day and add more sites and so forth. Eliminating names that aren't doing well, so forth. Just working on taking it slow.

barefoottech · 08-23-2009, 03:37 PM

I say
GO FOR IT.
your names are Ok for development
Your thinking of $1 a day is Sound.
YOU CAN DO IT.

Never listen to the .info's are crap mob.
I have monetised HUNDREDS of info's with adsense only
When done with aff. or targeted links they can make impressive incomes. Maybe not to same level as a GREAT .com , but still above development & renewal cost.
Checkout link in my Signature for an example of .info that makes renewal cost daily

mhdoc · 08-23-2009, 06:06 PM

In the end I think it comes down to doing what you like to do. If you enjoy the activities involved with flipping domains you will probably do well with that. If you enjoy development then that will probably work for you.

08-25-2009, 02:34 AM

Alright well I have developed my first mini site - I just have to do a little more work. Waiting to be accepted by one advertiser so I can put an affiliate link at the bottom and also need to flush out the book and DVD section.

BartenderEmployment.net

Whogister · 09-07-2009, 11:49 AM

How's the bartending site coming along so far?

Looks like you are on the first page of google already...
Good job!

09-08-2009, 02:49 PM

Yeah so far it is going pretty good, on the first page of google for "bartender employment" just want to try and secure the #1 spot.

I still need to work out some SEO issues to get more headway on other phrases I am looking for.

Seems it could be very profitable so far.

Trickac14 · 09-08-2009, 05:14 PM

developing is much more easier and can return a better profit, both are tough to learn but development route is the way to go

coltter · 09-09-2009, 12:03 AM

it's very hard to make money from selling domain names IMO,
since most of good domains has been registered already,
why not develop these domains?!

08-21-2009, 10:56 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	More money from developing or selling domains? Okay so I am wondering what do you personally make more money on in a given year - purchasing domains or the development of domains (adsense/affiliates/advertising/etc.). To go with that answer - is this your full-time, part-time, or free/extra-time gig I was just wondering, because I am starting to really do my homework. Because I am a graphic designer & marketing manager. I have been interested in domains for the past 2.5 years and have been buying some, going forward I have a plan, my first year I want to take: 40 domains - develop them with a goal of an average of $1 a day, that comes out to $14,600. From there I am going to step it up the next year raising my goals. If anyone is still reading... would this interest you? I am also thinking I might start a blog of my plans,trials,tribulations, and thoughts. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/website-development/604868-more-money-from-developing-selling-domains.html Wondering if anyone out there would give it a read.

08-21-2009, 11:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
steveteva TelShowcase.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: hawaii Posts: 1,323	More money by selling because you don't have to invest a dime on development, hosting, contents, time consuming jobs..... Also to benefits from earnings (affiliate, ads...) you need to spend lot of time on SEO but if your domain name is Generic and have high types in then it's fine otherwise it's better to sell domains rather than develop a website waiting for eanings. Some web designers have found a way to make money with domains by doing what we call website flipping, they develop website and sell it witin a network of famous forum or ebay. __________________ █ Mobile Simulator

08-21-2009, 12:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
intheflow NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 109	Yes, I agree, $1 /day is not that easy for 40 + domains. I found I can do that with one or two sites fairly easily, but as my sites increased, the average went way down. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604868 It's all about targeted traffic in my opinion. If you can generate tons of traffic then the money will follow. Even my ugly sites make money if they are receiving some decent targeted traffic. Selling domains is much cleaner and in some ways easier. A combo of the two is also highly effective. A domain with backlinks and a high PR that ranks high for a competitive keyword will be worth much more than an undeveloped domain. A company that is spending lots of money on the Adwords content network will likely see the value of such a site/domain. The tough decision is whether to sell or not! Take a nice 'one time' payment, or keep the property and collect the residual income? Good luck with your sites and blog. __________________ Asian dating \| asian love \| Luxury hotels Bangkok \| Airport hotels Bangkok

08-21-2009, 05:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
HuntingMoon Join our Mailer! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,098	good luck with your quest. you'll probably get some good results on some names, flip some and drop some others over time. __________________ HuntingMoon Twitter Essociate PDDW.com Pending Delete Domain Watcher \| Tube Domains

08-21-2009, 05:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
garptrader NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 857	I'm still getting my feet wet with development but as others have pointed out making a $1 a day per site is not as easy as it sounds. Google does give a significant search engine boost to exact match phrases for .com and .net domains and other extensions still receive some benefit (more experienced developers seem to comment that .org and .info get good results but I have noticed .tv doesn't get as good results). In either case, you will have to check the search volume and competition for the domains you noted and start with the ones with the best potential - lowest competition and highest search volume. You can still get a fair amount of traffic for longer-tail terms even if your site isn't on page one for the high-volume search phrase. One site of mine is only on page seven of Google for the one-word search but receives traffic for dozens of phrases which include that one word. Monetization of traffic is not so easy. Click through rates for Adsense and affiliates are very low. Best of luck. __________________ http://www.genericdomains.net/ http://www.dominericos.com/ http://www.premiumdomains.tv/

08-21-2009, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jaco Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,442	The only reason I buy domains is for development, so I guess development. The ones I do 'flip' show a decent return, but if it's a good name, that's kinda like burning the furniture. I much, much prefer wool to mutton. For me, it's all about the dev. $1 a day isn't as easy as it sounds, but if you're decent at development and SEO and own the right name platforms, then it becomes easy.

08-21-2009, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jaco Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,442	"Domainia" isn't sustainable, where people with IQ's of 90 can make 50X returns by trading sardines. Development of meaningful information channels and earning from your control over the eyeballs is very sustainable.

08-21-2009, 12:12 PM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	Interesting incites. I feel like there isn't much to development, no offense. I really feel like development is just planning, persistence, and time.

08-21-2009, 12:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jaco Account Suspended Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 1,442	There ISN'T much to development. Hell, with sourcing, you don't even have to know anything to get it done! "The soak" is the big one... Sometimes, you're developing something today that might not generate a fantastic revenue stream for 2, 3, 4 years. Given the way search engines emphasize trust and age, this is getting more and more important. This is also what separates the men from the boys, as impetuous children don't have the attention span for this to invest their efforts in something that doesn't generate an immediate return. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604868 It may generate a more reliable return and offer a far more durable revenue stream, but since the seeds don't sprout NOWNOWNOW, they go join up with whatever mania has the largest population of like-minded idiots. Development isn't "hard" nor is it "expensive". It's just work.

08-21-2009, 12:24 PM	THREAD STARTER #7 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	Well said Dongsman. So what do you think of my development blog/case study idea? Following and documenting all my work in going for a goal of 40 domains in 1 year earning $1 each.

08-21-2009, 01:03 PM	THREAD STARTER #9 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you very much! If anyone is interested in my project here are the 40 domains I am going to develop: (there are a couple stinkers in there but, I am going to see what I can do with them) 1. ADVICEBLACKJACK.COM 2. BARTENDEREMPLOYMENT.COM 3. BRIDESMAIDSGIFTS.INFO 4. BUILDMUSCLESQUICK.COM 5. CANCOMPACTOR.COM 6. CANDLEGIFT.INFO 7. COLLLEGESCHOLARSHIP.INFO 8. CREDITREPORTREPAIR.INFO 9. DATINGHELP.INFO 10. DEVELOPMUSCLES.COM 11. DIGITALCAMCORDERS.INFO 12. ELECTRONICSPARTS.INFO 13. ELECTRONICSPROJECTS.INFO 14. FAXPRINTERSCANNER.COM 15. FINANCECOURSES.INFO 16. FISHEGGS.INFO 17. FLIGHTBEST.COM 18. FLOWERGIRLDRESSES.INFO 19. GETWELLGIFTBASKETS.INFO 20. GIFTFORMAN.INFO 21. GIFTSTOMAKE.INFO 22. GIFTTOMAKE.COM 23. GREENHOUSEGARDEN.NET 24. IMPORTCUBANCIGARS.COM 25. INTERVIEWTECHNIQUES.INFO 26. IRONCHIMENEAS.COM 27. IRONFURNITURE.INFO 28. LISTOFJOBS.INFO 29. MAINTENANCEJOBS.INFO 30. MOTIVATECHILDREN.COM 31. PURPLEHEARTS.INFO 32. RECRUITERJOBS.INFO 33. SAVINGSCASH.COM 34. SPAGIFTBASKETS.INFO 35. SUGARGLIDERFACTS.COM ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=604868 36. TIPSNETWORKING.COM 37. VEGETABLEPLANTS.INFO 38. WAITRESSJOBS.INFO 39. WEDDINGCENTERPIECES.INFO 40. WEDDINGGIFTBASKETS.INFO (oh and also let me point out, $1 a day is the average I am going for, one could be 1.25 a day and one could be .25 a day and they even out)

08-22-2009, 07:42 AM	THREAD STARTER #12 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks everyone!

08-22-2009, 08:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
intheflow NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 109	Thats a nice list of names for developing, good keywords and with a little onsite optimization and linkbuilding you will have some traffic. __________________ Asian dating \| asian love \| Luxury hotels Bangkok \| Airport hotels Bangkok

08-23-2009, 09:33 AM	THREAD STARTER #15 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you again everyone. As to developing quality naes and shooting for $10 a day and such. I am taking the approach that my stat off names are pretty good. Especially ones such as: DigitalCamcorders.info, MotivateChildren.com, and FlowerGirlDresses.info. So with all these sites the AVERAGE I am shooting for is $1. Then after that goal is accomplished I intend to try and shoot for $2 a day and add more sites and so forth. Eliminating names that aren't doing well, so forth. Just working on taking it slow.

08-23-2009, 03:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
barefoottech The MINISITE King Join Date: May 2005 Location: QTHR Posts: 4,594	I say GO FOR IT. your names are Ok for development Your thinking of $1 a day is Sound. YOU CAN DO IT. Never listen to the .info's are crap mob. I have monetised HUNDREDS of info's with adsense only When done with aff. or targeted links they can make impressive incomes. Maybe not to same level as a GREAT .com , but still above development & renewal cost. Checkout link in my Signature for an example of .info that makes renewal cost daily __________________ Studio51 Sites! Often Copied Always Amazing Never Bettered.

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08-23-2009, 06:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
mhdoc Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,132	In the end I think it comes down to doing what you like to do. If you enjoy the activities involved with flipping domains you will probably do well with that. If you enjoy development then that will probably work for you.

08-25-2009, 02:34 AM	THREAD STARTER #18 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	Alright well I have developed my first mini site - I just have to do a little more work. Waiting to be accepted by one advertiser so I can put an affiliate link at the bottom and also need to flush out the book and DVD section. BartenderEmployment.net

09-07-2009, 11:49 AM	#19 (permalink)
Whogister NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 737 Follow @whogister	How's the bartending site coming along so far? Looks like you are on the first page of google already... Good job!

09-08-2009, 02:49 PM	THREAD STARTER #20 (permalink)
mhardgrove Guest Posts: n/a	Yeah so far it is going pretty good, on the first page of google for "bartender employment" just want to try and secure the #1 spot. I still need to work out some SEO issues to get more headway on other phrases I am looking for. Seems it could be very profitable so far.

09-08-2009, 05:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
Trickac14 NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: TEXAS Posts: 459	developing is much more easier and can return a better profit, both are tough to learn but development route is the way to go

09-09-2009, 12:03 AM	#22 (permalink)
coltter NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 230	it's very hard to make money from selling domain names IMO, since most of good domains has been registered already, why not develop these domains?! __________________ ►Web Directory ✿ Shopping Directory ★ Casino Summit █ Look for a Reliable & Cheap Host? Check out Top 10 Web Hosting Providers Review. █ Find the Best Dedicated Hosting - Delightful Hosts