Soofi

Need to develop an Auction Platform for selling Domain names & web site.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/web-development-wanted/592687-need-to-develop-auction-platform.html

Domain name auction platform reference can be taken from this link: Active Auctions*-*Sedo.com

Website auction platform can be similar.. with one or two added options. The most important part of this platform is buyer & seller verification, so that we develop a secure platform .

The site is Domain name and Web site AfterMarket Journal..*|* where I need this auction platform integrated and auction platform will be using the user interface of Vbulletin forum we have installed at the following link: Aftermarket Journal Discussion Forum - Powered by vBulletin so that we can have only one registration & login id. Once user has registered with the forum, they can perform extra steps to verify themselves to be able to use auction platform.

Let me know your thoughts and inexpensive quote... Budget is within $100-$1000.. completion timeframe should not be more then 1 month.

el_paon

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Soofi

sorry but I ain't accepting expensive bids, I already have a bid pending on $650 from my personal developer. So anything less then that will be more feasible!!

I'm not a noob sitting here, so bid sensibly along wit your portfolio link.
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Thanks, Jay

el_paon

My bid was within the budget you specified.

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Soofi

without portfolio? Thanks for your time!
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And I never stated that I will accept just any bid placed within my specified budget range..

el_paon

Maybe if you asked, I would have sent it, anyway consider my bid retracted.

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BTW, some of my customers can be seen on Fox News. Here is a reference: DMS. These folks are running a highly customized version of ILance Reverse Auction where purchasers request services or products and bidders bid their best lowest bid proposal. The winner is chosen by the purchaser before or after the Reverse Auction listing has ended.
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This is however for the Reverse Auction side of the product. You can disable this atmosphere and choose Forward Auction instead (and/or have both Reverse Auction and Forward Auction engaged Simultaneously). In a Forward Auction environment, Sellers list their items (in your case, Domain Names or Portfolios) and bidders place their bid in competition with other bidders.

As the Admin you are able to fully customize the category system switching certain features on or off, for example - Proxy Bidding with Bid Increments, Blind Bidding Privacy and so forth (by so forth, I'm refering to activating or deactivating Bid Sniping, Insertion Fees, Final Value Fees).

There is also powerful SEO (search engine optimization) control. This allows you to inject special meta keywords and descriptions on a per-category basis so Google and other popular search engines find your members listings quicker, without guesswork and certainly without you forking out thousands on SEO-Development. ILance does it all.

I think what really sets ILance apart from anything else available is the way we provide the software to let you customize things you need most like Bid Fields (maybe Web Design category has questions like "Do you need a logo also? Yes/No") or another category such as Domain Names - "Length of Registration - 5 years" .. and nothing is hardcoded meaning you don't have to fork out any more money to have your bidding and listing interface templates changed. You can do it yourself through the use of a nicely designed Interface that shouldn't take you longer than 1 minute to do each category and set it up as you desire.

For what it's worth, running a marketplace / auction "sounds fun" but when you are sitting with software that does only a certain process flow can easily cost you hundreds to thousands to customize or modify. This is why exploring established products is sometimes a good idea at first before spending a good sum on freelancers and/or people who will slice up a few psd templates from Photoshop and hack attack a few SQL queries so the initial "site" looks good to you but is horrible and would never sell to the professional buyer who will be doing business on your site.

To give you an idea, there are well over 70 tables in an ILance powered database holding info from user accounts to bids placed to auctions listed to newsletter subscription normalization (which prevents you from having to mess with cron jobs and other not-so-friendly *nix tools to send bulk mail). ILance offers that as well. Since 2002, I don't think we've missed much. Our customers express their demand and we provide the solution.
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As mentioned in the PM we have many customers (from all over the globe) who are using this product on a daily basis and have a tried and tested process to resolve issues so you are not left out of pocket paying programmers for a crappy product. ILance software is the real deal and is fully backed and supported by professional software developers and like-minded business individuals. ILance is a fully registered Incorporated company doing business within Canada since 2000. ILance software version 1.0.0 was sold in 2002... (2 years to put the first release out)..

I look forward to you exploring this product. If you have any questions, comments or concerns please feel free to ask here or send me a PM.

Take care and best of luck with your upcoming project!!

PS - AdminCP URL User/Password is available upon request. PM me.

Peter

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Soofi

Thanks Peter, really nice script done there
However, I'm looking for a customized platform resembling sedo auction and a bit cheaper option..

Cheers!

psalzmann

Hey not a problem Jay

Best of luck with your project.

-Peter

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It doesnt matter if he asked or not for a link to a portfolio or at least samples of previous work MUST be provided regardless of whether or not your bid is within his budget and kindly refrain from arguing in someone elses thread.

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Soofi

Thanks Electric-Shadow for fixing this thread.

Still looking for considerable quotes from experienced developers.. hit me up!!

rinkle

If you are interested in pooling resources, I'm willing to spend more than $1,000 to develop a freelancing reverse auction script that could also be used for your purposes, dont.net, or at least a framework.

I looked at iLance which says it does everything but I cant find anybody with a good site that uses it. I saw a couple with branding and looked terrible with no visitors. When you cant find even one site its not a good sign.

hazzel

Pm sent..

Hope to hear from you...

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Soofi

I'm not sure about your proposal. Could you please brief me about it through pm?

Thanks, Jay

rinkle

Yes, I'll send you a PM. I'm probably going to get a freelancer script built and have put together some resources to do it properly.

My comment about ilance was that it looks like that script is toast. Even the site that the guy (owner it seems) says is amazing and appeared on the news is totally empty [do my stuff]. lots of promises about features and options but nobody succeeds. Seen this before and I need to see even small success stories to believe buying any script and specially at that price.

psalzmann

Good luck. That will cost you way over $50k easily. Don't forget "rinkle" Development is free if your time is worth nothing


You find something better I'll back off but you're all talk unfortunately. Show us here a better solution than ILance. You won't find it because it doesn't exist. ILance is a true marketplace solution not some auction script thrown together in hopes to make a quick buck If that was the case we wouldn't be supporting and providing necessary product updates for the past 7 almost 8 years running. The only toast here is your commenting because you have no clue what you're talking about.

"appeared on news". You talk as if that's a bad thing. The point here is a customer of ILance purchased ILance, promoted their site and landed a few prime time spots in the major news. That's HUGE news but it's certainly old news. If you have something unique, you'll be on the news too. If you show me another solution similar to ILance that put their clients on prime time news I'll eat my words but you won't find one unfortunately. ILance is the real deal and that's why you're here trying to talk crap about it. Ya dig?
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For entertainment purposes, here is DoMyStuff on Prime Times News promoting their ILance powered Reverse Auction Site: Give these guys a break they are doing the best they can: YouTube - DoMyStuff.com

If you want to succeed you need to do that on your own. ILance provides the solution and you market and promote. If you don't promote you don't succeed. It doesn't matter if it's a auction site or a web design firm/hosting firm. The point is if you don't market you will fail PERIOD. Nothing to do with ILance... in fact as you stated above you've seen ILance clients on prime time news. If that's not good enough for you I suggest you get your own solution built and do that yourself because you won't find a more professional solution that caters to both Service and Product auction solutions as ILance does.

What is more rinkle, think about it.. do you think the professionals at CNN or Fox News can't see threw their guests? Do you think that Domystuff just called Fox and hoped to get a prime time news spot? No. They got on because the solution they were promoting (do my stuff) is using ILance Software, and if you knew what ILance does, you'd understand they are promoting Jobs, Work, Products and other related services through DMS using ILance Auction Software... this is a great thing... especially with the past and present recession. ILance is providing jobs not only on ILance powered sites, but if you did a search on google you'd see hundreds of "customers" looking for customization. Where you think ILance fails, you need to look at the "bigger picture". It's not failing, it's a revolutionary offering that provides everything from Services, Products, Jobs, Revenue and let's not forget.. the "coolness factor" of being able to run a powerful site such as ILance on your own web site. The product is almost 8 years old. ILance can also be used on your own site without anything "remotely hosted". You download the product, install to your site and GO GO GO!

ILance is priced to sell. You pay a small price for a complex and complete solution to run your business for well under $1000. ILance has a Starter package which cost $497. If that price is too high then I suggest you save or buy another competing solution because when you have it all you need to do is promote and ILance does everything else for you. In fact, I built ILance with the goal in mind where everything you can enable in terms of a residual income is available to you.... Watch and become educated about ILance, it's your best bet vs. trying to run us into the ground with your lack of educated commenting re: ILance:
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Subscription Fee Matrix

• Configure member access plans based on various site permissions and resources
• Set up daily, monthly or yearly plans
• Create bid plans and charge for the usage of X amount of bids

Listing Insertion Fee

• Configure cost specific groups for small to large ticket items
• Set up appropriate fee ranges within groups ( ie: $500 - $1000 item listing = $10 fee)
• Payment required from seller before listing becomes live (optional)

Upsell Listing Enhancement Fee

• Bold listing title
• Highlighted listing
• Featured listing status
• Featured Portfolio status
• Auction auto relist feature
• Slideshow photo gallery
• NEW - Video Description listing (add videos from YouTube to your listings!!)

Final Value Fee ( % or flat rate)
(Configurable through admin marketplace settings)

• Configure cost specific groups for small to large ticket items
• Set up appropriate fee ranges within groups ( ie: $500- $1000 = %10 or $10 fee)
• Payment charged to seller accordingly upon final sale amount

Portfolio Upsell Enhancement Fee

• Give users the ability to pay you to feature their portfolio items

Escrow Service Fee

• Configure fees to charge buyer and/or seller for sending and receiving funds via secure
  escrow.

Profile Verification Fee

• Set up fees for members to pay you to verify their profile credentials (optional)

Provider to Buyer Invoice Fee

• Set up fees for provider generated invoices for ongoing work during awarded service
  auction events

Look, That's just a small amount of ways to earn Revenue through ILance. I will leave the other forms of revenue building to actual customers interested in learning more about ILance.

Simply put, ILance is built to generate my customers money just like you see going on in the bigger sites. But if you knew this you wouldn't be trying to put it down because from your tone you are not upset about anything specific (because you failed to mention anything wrong other than the price which I feel you might not be willing to afford or willing to spend).

So what is your next action? you come to NamePros in the hopes to deter potential customers to ILance? Good luck to you because you'll certainly need it. ILance is the real deal, it speaks for itself and you have full opportunity to review our latest release (few days ago) on the demo site: ILance - Main Menu ...

For other serious people looking to make money on the internet, it's been said before but I'll say it again... the only 3 major forms of Financial Success on the Internet today (residual income not fly by night income) are:

1. Search
2. Traffic
3. Auctions

I'll keep a tight watch on this thread. Don't forget to review our sales thread right here on NamePros.. it shows lots of details about ILance which you may or may not already know... it's in the Scripts for Sale section here at NP.

If anyone is serious about running an Auction Site, let's talk. PM me anytime

Peter from ILance

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rinkle

Peter -

I dont care to pick a fight and what i am saying is just honest opinion. if youre trying to get me to spend a ton of money on your software, its you who should be answering questions and showing proof and not telling us to assume that its amazing because you say so. that is just sales talk.

* It does not take $50,000 to create freelancing software, not even close. Anyone with experience knows this.

* At least what I know I create works. You are asking us to assume ilance works. i have tons of buggy scripts in the php grave yard. I havent seen you list a few ilance sites that does and the only one you promote failed pretty badly.

* an ilance site appearing on the news with tons of press is not a good thing if the site cant sustain any traffic. domystuff dropped really quick after the news. this is one of the many examples that shows that this script works really well?

* Even sites running cheap scripts like kubelance and others show more life and i can name them. they didnt have all the news of domystuff either.

* we are all serious about running our sites. We know the sales talk on the major forms of financial success on the internet. what we do need is proof of concept.

you may have done a lot of work on the script but it doesnt mean it has the same value to the customer. i think ilance is really confusing. i think you put in tons of features but miss on some of the critical basic stuff. i also think there are differences in auction scripts and freelancer scripts but ilance throws them all together in one. to me that is a lot of bloated features and bloated code which also makes for a bloated price. i dont know why you didnt do 2 scripts that did each type of site well.

there are other people now creating freelance software with the success of odesk and others. $200 buys me a decent freelance script that can be customized and be easy for my visitors to understand. i dont know why anyone would spend $497 for your solution and have to brand it with your brand too. and even that is gonna end up costing a lot more money with your per member license fees. i dont think anyone wants to pay for potential dreams.

Soofi

easy there guys, this thread is closed for now!

enjoy your coming weekend

rinkle

we are all friends here. thanks for a great thread about options in this area. i will share with you my probable efforts to spend a few thou on developing a freelance only script.

peter is trying to sell himself and that is cool. just keeping focused on answers to the reasonable questions asked. if he can give us answers and information (even company info as i cant find address and phone), maybe he can change our minds. i dont think that will happen but this seems an open place and we can give him the opportunity here or in another thread.

thank you and enjoy your weekend too!!!!

Soofi

Rinkle, look at this: psalzmann Last Activity: Today 12:11 PM
| Current Activity: Replying to Thread Need to develop Auction platform

You just wait & watch lol, he's got more ammunition ready for you in his next post.. somebody stop him!!

psalzmann

I'm not trying to fight with you, I'm trying to educate you (re: ILance) because you think this stuff is developed on peanuts. It took 8 years to develop what you see there now and if you think you can have this done in 3 months with 10 developers you're still a far cry from an established, developed framework which not only works, but is fully supported. I'm talking about the "after effect" any coder can develop an auction site... but will it work? will it be professional? highly unlikely. That's why there is only a handful of auction sites, some are decent, some are priced low, but you get what you pay for.

Then you obviously haven't taken into consideration Security, Maintenance, Bugs, Support and overall customer input. These things might have nothing to do with "development" but when you get stuck with a solution handed to you from a bunch of developers and you know nothing and want to extend it or fix a security path you'll end up paying those developers weekly if not daily to support you and your "software". $10k software turns into $20k, $50k, $100k very quickly but if you knew this you wouldn't have said what you did above. When one bug fixed turns into mutiple unknown issues and your customers are trying to use your site to no avail, you are forced to pay developers to fix it. At least with a supported solution like ILance all this is handled for our customers. They report an issue, we review and apply a fix update patch release free of charge.
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Don't assume anything. ILance does not expect you to assume anything so I'm not sure where you are coming from. In fact, we offer a fully interactive demo of the software you're investing in to ensure you can see for yourself it works. If you have already gone through ILance and know it works and coming here now with all this nonsense you're leaving much to be desired unfortunately. People these days aren't stupid. As for your grave yard remark, it's quite the opposite as ILance is just beginning to see people looking for Product Auction Marketplace moreso than Reverse Auction. The move we made to introduce both logic scenerios (Reverse Auction and Forward Auction) into one solution is the reason why people choose ILance over any other solution available. It does everything and you're telling me it's a script ready for the graveyard? LOL If that's the case why the heck did you contact us in the first place?
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Are you telling me when you buy vBulletin it comes with Forum Posters? Are you suggesting that ILance should help our customers market their own sites ? If we did that there wouldn't be any reason to sell the software. The way you're putting it, we would be a consultation firm which focuses on helping "auction sites" obtain and retain customers. That's not what we do, we license our Enterprise Auction Software to anyone who has an idea with the plans on running either a Reverse Auction or Forward Auction marketplace. We don't market our customer sites, we don't even reveal their urls to potential customers such as yourself. It's not how we roll. Besides, that statement is getting old. We sell the software and it's up to the ILance customer to put it to good use. Period. ILance works very well or we'd be out of business pretty quick don't you think?

If you want that software go buy it Seems like it will do what you need since you're bringing it up now. It's incompariable to ILance. ILance is a solution, the rest are simply "scripts" thrown together to do this and that. None of these scripts you mention don't even come with MVC logic coding, it's not OOP like ILance, it's actually PHP mixed with HTML templates. I should know, I had to upgrade many customers from Kube to ILance. They leave much to be desired and if you actually talk to real people over the phone using these solutions, you'll hear the same thing over and over again... I need to upgrade to ILance because my software doesn't do this and the developer doesn't reply to his emails. What am I suppose to do? leave that guy hanging? We set them up on ILance and they never look back.

If you are serious then you know exactly what to do. Develop your own or buy the best available today (which is ILance). Remember, I'm serious about having something developed from scratch costing you more than $50k. You wait and see. I've subscribed to this thread so when you make ends meet 3 years from now we'll see how much it cost you. If I told you how much time and investment in ILance has been made, you wouldn't believe me anyway. This is also why I mentioned eariler that development is free if your time is worth nothing.

Finally, something we can both agree on. You're right. If I had to price ILance for what it's worth to the average customer and was only going to sell it one-time, I'd sell it for $100k. Instead, I decided to release it as a solution which people can buy which ultimately reduces the cost quite a bit. $500 is a great price to launch your own business. Anything less you're not getting a solution you're getting a script that needs work period.

You forgot to mention what you found confusing? to me you're talking and talking but have nothing to back up what you are putting ILance down about. Am I supposed to read your mind and discover what you're confused about? 9 times out of 10 it's most likely to do with the phrases in the templates. Joe wants to say "Service" but Bill wants to say "Reverse Auction", Sally wants to say "Products" but Mary wants to say "Forward Auction". The point is you can put ILance in the position to work for you, not hire developers to charge you through the roof for some of the most simpliest of features and functions which should already be available to you like ILance.

There is a phrase manager you can change EVERYTHING in ILance including adding new languages for a multi-language environment which is pure-UTF-8. This here puts ILance in a position to cater to bountries much further than the US/Canada market and we see clients buying ILance from Brazil, China, India, Germany, and so many other countries. I can almost guarantee you that other scripts compared to ILance won't even support Right-to-Left localization (Hebrew, Arabic, etc)..... ILance does in fact support this too.

ILance can be put to use to utilize both, Reverse Auction and Forward Auction because it occured to our customers 5 years back that if they are successful with the Reverse Auction component in ILance why not offer Products. The team went to work, spent ample research on what needed to happen with the current release and framework and made ends meet to allow our customers (since they demanded it) to use both, one or the other. So what does this mean? It means our customers can make a Reverse Auction site OR a Forward Auction site OR use all and go full blown with both without having to invest in other solutions. We even have Stores coming up which should be ready very soon.

If you think $497 is a bloated price then you really aren't investing for your own business you've got other ideas in mind which I don't believe ILance wants to be subjected to. You've already made your decision not to purchase ILance so why all the drama? Why can't you just let it go already or purchase a license? We're good people and we know what we're doing. In fact, I see domain names being bought and sold here on NamePros for thousands of dollars that really suck! if you want to make a sound investment, launch a marketplace to cater to all these domainers buying and selling domains. You're forgetting what popular sites are doing today :: Sitepoint with their enhanced "Flippa", NameJet, Godaddy, all the big wigs are investing their futures with Auction Software.

I don't think you're listening to me and I can't help but tell you to read between the lines:

Top 3 forms of financial success on the Internet (again) are:

1. Search
2. Traffic
3. Auctions

The 3rd is what ILance is offering to anyone who wants to run a auction site (reverse or forward). $497 is not a lot of money if you consider how much money can be made. Don't be silly rinkle, you know this already (hence the fact you're looking for solutions that work for you). All good.

If I may, I encourage you to come back to this thread in the future and give us an update on your development. You'll be surprised down the road how much money and time this stuff takes. If you decide that other solutions aren't working as well as you'd though, come see me. I'll personally work with you as I do with all ILance customers

Peter

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Thread closed per ops earlier statement - I think if I read any more my eyes would explode lol

jay if you need it re-opened shoot me a pm

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