Does this look like a failure??

IIIIIIIIII · 08-23-2007, 07:18 PM

If I can generate enough traffic to start coming to this page via Adwords and what not do you guys think it will convert?

AnnoyingCreditors.Com

blaknite · 08-23-2007, 08:13 PM

I don't know if my oppinion counts for anything here as I don't click on many ads myself. But from my view I'd say no. The reason bieng is that the page reeks of advertisements. If I don't see any real content I don't see any reason to stay and away I go. Of course since I'm not the type who usually clicks on ads, I could be totally wrong about what will be attractive to the people who actually do click.

My first thought when I read your domain name and before I viewed the page was: Your domain name is great and I expected to see a page about how to get creditors off your back. Perhaps a blog with some horror stories or success stories, maybe both. Then ads for companies that specialize in debt consolidation. What I saw looked like spam and I didn't see any ads directly aimed to what I expected to find. Mostly stuff for bank accounts and such. There may have been some good ads there, but my eyes were averted long before I got to read them.

Also, not speaking from experience, but I think I read somewhere that google will ban you if you use adsense to direct traffic to pages full of ads.

mrizos · 08-23-2007, 08:29 PM

wow...doh....take out about 95 % of the ads and shove some content in instead. You may get a few CT's then.

cera · 08-23-2007, 08:44 PM

The page at AnnoyingCreditors.Com is annoying.
Way too busy to get a second glance from me.
If I came to that page from an adsense ad I would be hitting the back button before the page finished loading. Spammy looking.

But, hey, give it a shot. I'd like to hear how it works (or doesn't) for you.

clocker24 · 08-24-2007, 07:57 AM

The page isn't responding now. In any case, there's another factor you have to consider. If you don't have a lot of good content on your site, or if you have too many ads, Adwords will give your site a low Quality Score and your minimum bids will all jump up to unaffordable levels. At that point your campaign will effectively be ended.

The only way to prevent this is to make sure your site gets a good quality score. You do that by providing relevant content and making sure your site is very user friendly, with an "About Us" page, contact information, a privacy policy, and enabling feedback (comments) from readers would be good as well.

IIIIIIIIII · 08-24-2007, 10:10 AM

I updated the page..let me know what u guys think now

blaknite · 08-24-2007, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIIIIIIIII

I updated the page..let me know what u guys think now

200% improvement at least. In fact I had a hard time distinguishing some of the ads from the content at first glance. This is a good thing. You might want to play with the colors a bit. They're not bad, but if you test a few different schemes you may find that light or pastel colors do less to convince people to leave. (note the colors namepros is using)

A tidbit from a job I had many years back at a copy center. They trained to suggest pastel paper over fluorescent paper to people who wanted to print flyers. Fluorescent paper gets worse results than pastels. It seems that people tend to notice the bright flashy fluorescent colors sooner, but they don't actually read the entire pamphlet because it is distracting to the eye. The black and grey scheme looks good on your site, but it may end up not getting read.

From the other angle, You may actually be able to use this to your advantage. A color scheme that makes people not want to read your articles, paired with ads that are easily readable might actually produce good results.

Smiler · 08-24-2007, 05:56 PM

Your domain actually sticks out. Its very bradable and very easy to remember. The contents are not bad but I do agree that you should make the color a little lighter and appealing. Cheers.

IIIIIIIIII · 08-24-2007, 06:34 PM

sweet!! Now if my 45 min of work can make me some $$$$

clocker24 · 08-24-2007, 07:42 PM

1. You can't just copy articles from About.com. Aside from being a copyright violation, you are not adding anything useful, and Google may penalize you for it. You need to take the time to write some original content, or hire someone to do it. Try elance.com.

2. The light text on a dark background is a no-no. It's very hard to read. Stick with a white or light colored background, it's much more user friendly.

cera · 08-24-2007, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clocker24

The light text on a dark background is a no-no. It's very hard to read. Stick with a white or light colored background, it's much more user friendly.

Agree, hard on the eyes after a paragraph or 2. But one huge improvement over orig. version.

**Cyberian** · 08-25-2007, 02:08 AM

Def headed in the right direction, although like clocker mentioned... ripping content will only hurt you in the long run.

Also, this really should be in the Web Design Review forum, so I'm moving it for you.

Cy

08-23-2007, 07:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
IIIIIIIIII NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 134 168.25 NP$ (Donate)	Does this look like a failure?? If I can generate enough traffic to start coming to this page via Adwords and what not do you guys think it will convert? AnnoyingCreditors.Com __________________ ::Muscle Car Forums:: AnnoyingCreditors.Com

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cera NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 789 141.65 NP$ (Donate)	The page at AnnoyingCreditors.Com is annoying. Way too busy to get a second glance from me. If I came to that page from an adsense ad I would be hitting the back button before the page finished loading. Spammy looking. But, hey, give it a shot. I'd like to hear how it works (or doesn't) for you. __________________ CanadianDots.ca - .ca Domain Name Forum LaughLover.com - One-Liners, Bumper Sticker, Tshirt messages.

08-24-2007, 07:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
clocker24 NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California, USA Posts: 294 593.50 NP$ (Donate)	The page isn't responding now. In any case, there's another factor you have to consider. If you don't have a lot of good content on your site, or if you have too many ads, Adwords will give your site a low Quality Score and your minimum bids will all jump up to unaffordable levels. At that point your campaign will effectively be ended. The only way to prevent this is to make sure your site gets a good quality score. You do that by providing relevant content and making sure your site is very user friendly, with an "About Us" page, contact information, a privacy policy, and enabling feedback (comments) from readers would be good as well. __________________ DomainerPro.com - Chronicles of a Domain Name Professional

08-24-2007, 10:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
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08-24-2007, 05:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Smiler NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 901 272.00 NP$ (Donate)	Your domain actually sticks out. Its very bradable and very easy to remember. The contents are not bad but I do agree that you should make the color a little lighter and appealing. Cheers. __________________ Game9.net\|ZipCoders.com\|Blog94.com\|VXEM.com\|Payz.info\|m-voting.net\| My 2nd & 3rd Signature Line is for rent $10/Month. PM me if your intested New To Domaining?

08-23-2007, 08:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
blaknite NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Salt Lake Posts: 435 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	I don't know if my oppinion counts for anything here as I don't click on many ads myself. But from my view I'd say no. The reason bieng is that the page reeks of advertisements. If I don't see any real content I don't see any reason to stay and away I go. Of course since I'm not the type who usually clicks on ads, I could be totally wrong about what will be attractive to the people who actually do click. My first thought when I read your domain name and before I viewed the page was: Your domain name is great and I expected to see a page about how to get creditors off your back. Perhaps a blog with some horror stories or success stories, maybe both. Then ads for companies that specialize in debt consolidation. What I saw looked like spam and I didn't see any ads directly aimed to what I expected to find. Mostly stuff for bank accounts and such. There may have been some good ads there, but my eyes were averted long before I got to read them. Also, not speaking from experience, but I think I read somewhere that google will ban you if you use adsense to direct traffic to pages full of ads.

08-23-2007, 08:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
mrizos NamePros Regular Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 693 0.00 NP$ (Donate)	wow...doh....take out about 95 % of the ads and shove some content in instead. You may get a few CT's then.

08-24-2007, 06:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
IIIIIIIIII NamePros Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 134 168.25 NP$ (Donate)	sweet!! Now if my 45 min of work can make me some $$$$ __________________ ::Muscle Car Forums:: AnnoyingCreditors.Com

08-24-2007, 07:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
clocker24 NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: California, USA Posts: 294 593.50 NP$ (Donate)	1. You can't just copy articles from About.com. Aside from being a copyright violation, you are not adding anything useful, and Google may penalize you for it. You need to take the time to write some original content, or hire someone to do it. Try elance.com. 2. The light text on a dark background is a no-no. It's very hard to read. Stick with a white or light colored background, it's much more user friendly. __________________ DomainerPro.com - Chronicles of a Domain Name Professional

08-25-2007, 02:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
Cyberian Forum Moderator Forum Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NorCal Posts: 4,532 4,241.01 NP$ (Donate)	Def headed in the right direction, although like clocker mentioned... ripping content will only hurt you in the long run. Also, this really should be in the Web Design Review forum, so I'm moving it for you. Cy __________________ Remember who your loyalties are divided between, and choose for the right reasons who deserves them.

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