Bum Designs

def1 · 10-13-2005, 06:57 PM

the url is...

www.designs.bumrecords.net

how is the designs, rollovers, text, background, header, and overall layout. Would you be interested in buying from here or would you get out right away

unknowngiver · 10-13-2005, 07:00 PM

Looks awesome man

Just change the background colour of the NAVBAR area...grey doesnt really look good there..

def1 · 10-13-2005, 07:44 PM

check it now, the gray should fit in more now that the header is changed.

Im still going to update but overall the layout will remain the same

leviathon · 10-13-2005, 07:58 PM

The graphic at the top (black) is sort of unclear, and sort of stretched. I'm sure it's easy to fix. And I think the text on the navigation list is sort of stretched out as well (too thin and long?) But overall it's a great completion!

def1 · 10-13-2005, 08:35 PM

i dont know what you mean about the graphic being stretched, but the text is supposed to be like that, its arial narrow

andyy15 · 10-13-2005, 08:53 PM

I think your site needs a header. Other then that everything is ok.

Epic · 10-13-2005, 09:01 PM

The rollovers don't make a very drastic change...on the side links its hardly noticeable...I'd make the change more noticeable or ditch the rollover over there altogther

Albino · 10-14-2005, 12:43 AM

prefered the old one

unknowngiver · 10-14-2005, 08:48 AM

I like it now..just add a good header now

LeetPCUser · 10-14-2005, 10:44 AM

I don't like it. It feels completely off. There is no header picture which just makes it not eye candy off the bat. On top of that your little solid color things in the middle are wierd and off. I don't know, I don't like it.

thomaslgates · 10-14-2005, 12:16 PM

Hey! well done chap.!

aaroncampbell · 10-14-2005, 01:03 PM

Well, I'd say work more towards a liquid layout. I keep my resolution at 1280x1024, so your page (770px wide) leaves 510 px of wasted space. That's roughly 40% of my screen wasted. Look at sites like amazon. As you resize your browser, their site resizes with it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/web-design-reviews/131578-bum-designs.html

Also, you have too many image links. Don't be afraid to use text. Again look at amazon (or any major E-Commerce site...I use amazon because it was the first to pop into my head, and they make millions, so they must be doing something right). Do you see image links with rollovers? No. The only images used as links are either pictures of products, or the logos of "featured partners."

Lastly, keep it as light and cheerful as you can. This means lots of white, or bright colors. You have dark colors for your navigation, left bar, and your background when someones resolution is too high. Compare this again to amazon, and you will see that they have like 90% white, and the res is nice bright blues, etc. Only go dark if you are trying to sell to a dark crowd (like goth clothing, etc).

def1 · 10-14-2005, 03:31 PM

first off, I know it needs a header and I will add one later. I will take off the little title boxes, or change em. As far as someone saying something about amazon well theres quite a bit of difference. Amazon sells products not web design, Amazon has a user friendly design but not really an appealing one. As far as the rollovers they arent meant to be drastic. They are meant to look as if a light is shining over them, and I know its kind of unnoticable on the other nav bar and I will change that. Also to the person who said you liked the other one better, well I will still have it(although its a bit changed) but I decided to make an intro page that allows the user to pick there design. So they will have an option to choose this one, the other one, or another one I plan to make soon.

Troubled1 · 10-14-2005, 05:20 PM

Not a bad looking site for most purposes however I believe that a site selling web design should reach out and grab attention. Just a personal taste I guess. The site is nice but I wouldn't buy webdesign from you simply because the site just doesn't grab me. Looks a bit to much like a template.

def1 · 10-14-2005, 05:21 PM

i added a new header and some more colors and changed some other stuff

shadow_boi · 10-14-2005, 06:52 PM

the background behind "quick info" and "news today" seems too big, and the gray color doesnt look nice, so make some changes to it

ChrisKL · 10-14-2005, 08:36 PM

[Web design mode]

Off the bat, no DTD, which will cause any viewing in any browser to default to what it feels best (or in IE it's quirks mode, which can destroy a page). Always add the correct DTD, it's as essential as the <html></html> tag.

Example:

PHP Code:

  <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

 
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">

[The xml tag is really crucial if you plan to use any RSS]

Will also need to use the correct html to call CSS

This....

PHP Code:

  <style type="text/css">

Needs to be this (in xhtml)...

PHP Code:

  <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />

<style type="text/css">

<!--/*--><![CDATA[/*><!--*/

  <!--

 
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=131578
[add CSS or stylesheet link here]

 
/*]]>*/--></style>

[utf-8 is preferred, since it's international and works with everything, and you need to add the CDATA type to tell the browser/XML engine what data is being presented]

And you use only one. Use an import for per browser specific tags (or use hacks <-- it doesn't look pretty, but it gets the job done).

If this is HTML 4.01 you can get away with caps for tags, if it's XHTML you'll have to lose them (capital letters have meaning in XHTML).
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=131578

Don't use images like that in 2005 web pages. It'll break if someone decides to increase the font size (why everyone is moving away from it). Spacer.gifs also are a waste, it's a "fudge" factor for alignment, which isn't necessary and waste resources. They also can be full of web bugs, which can give your site a negative impression.

Now to visuals...

Since it's a cut-up site, the images take f-o-r-e-v-e-r to load. And if this is a web design site, it kills the impression. True web designers can whip up a simple site in notepad alone -- not ImageReady.

As for your question about the impression of the site: I'd leave if it's a web design site, since...

1. No Flash (web designers need to show a leg here of that speciality, even if it's just a simple Swish text spin).
2. The web page code is non-compliant.
3. It's a cut and paste site.
4. Is not ADA compliant (which web design sites need to be to show their future clients they can even handle those projects [which offer some serious money]) -- absolutely nothing there to show the design firm can handle it, from table descriptions to d-links, or at least a ADA special page.

Remember: not everyone is 15 years-old. Not everyone has 20/20 eyesight. Not everyone is going to read the text at "medium" size (IE). With a cut/paste site if someone uses a different text setting it'll break the tables, divs and screw up the presentation royally.

CKL

steadler · 10-14-2005, 08:43 PM

not something i would use or design, but it looks nice and the navagation is easy

all in all i think a nice soimple design

def1 · 10-15-2005, 09:10 AM

try enlarging the font

def1 · 10-15-2005, 02:42 PM

ok I added this new(actually old) design

www.designs.bumrecords.net/designs2.html

Many of you might think its better thats why Im going to make one more thats a bit more professional than the 2

rustypaulin · 10-15-2005, 02:53 PM

i prefer the first one

Albino · 10-15-2005, 03:06 PM

everytime i click on the links I get a different homepage, how many have you done ?!

Troubled1 · 10-15-2005, 05:35 PM

The second one is a bit better, it got my attention

def1 · 10-18-2005, 08:21 PM

i thought i added this but i guess not

I also added www.bumrecords.net/designs/index3.html

deet · 10-18-2005, 08:47 PM

Site looks good

10-13-2005, 06:57 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	Bum Designs the url is... www.designs.bumrecords.net how is the designs, rollovers, text, background, header, and overall layout. Would you be interested in buying from here or would you get out right away __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

10-13-2005, 07:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
unknowngiver Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 3,088	Looks awesome man Just change the background colour of the NAVBAR area...grey doesnt really look good there.. __________________ Simplifying Engineering \|\| $$ Currency Converter $$ Julsh - Community/Dating Website \|\| Free Image hosting Fresh Proxies \|\| Random Proxy \|\| Troll Board

10-13-2005, 07:44 PM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	check it now, the gray should fit in more now that the header is changed. Im still going to update but overall the layout will remain the same __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

10-13-2005, 08:35 PM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	i dont know what you mean about the graphic being stretched, but the text is supposed to be like that, its arial narrow __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

10-13-2005, 08:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
andyy15 NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 877	I think your site needs a header. Other then that everything is ok. __________________ Quality Link Exchange Websites- Register your link directory for free today! Affordable Web Design & Hosting>> Avid Website Design Great Jewelry at LOW prices: NCJ.US Nita Creations Jewelry

10-13-2005, 07:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
leviathon NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 683	The graphic at the top (black) is sort of unclear, and sort of stretched. I'm sure it's easy to fix. And I think the text on the navigation list is sort of stretched out as well (too thin and long?) But overall it's a great completion!

10-13-2005, 09:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Epic Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,767	The rollovers don't make a very drastic change...on the side links its hardly noticeable...I'd make the change more noticeable or ditch the rollover over there altogther

10-14-2005, 12:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Albino Munky Designs Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 996	prefered the old one __________________ Toddish.co.uk - Portfolio/Blog Powcomics.com - Webcomic Hosting/Directory Erant.co.uk - vent your rage!

10-14-2005, 08:48 AM	#9 (permalink)
unknowngiver Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 3,088	I like it now..just add a good header now __________________ Simplifying Engineering \|\| $$ Currency Converter $$ Julsh - Community/Dating Website \|\| Free Image hosting Fresh Proxies \|\| Random Proxy \|\| Troll Board

10-14-2005, 10:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
LeetPCUser Account Closed Join Date: May 2005 Location: Whitewater, WI Posts: 3,710	I don't like it. It feels completely off. There is no header picture which just makes it not eye candy off the bat. On top of that your little solid color things in the middle are wierd and off. I don't know, I don't like it.

10-14-2005, 12:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
thomaslgates Account Closed Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: India Posts: 672	Hey! well done chap.!

10-14-2005, 01:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
aaroncampbell New Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	Well, I'd say work more towards a liquid layout. I keep my resolution at 1280x1024, so your page (770px wide) leaves 510 px of wasted space. That's roughly 40% of my screen wasted. Look at sites like amazon. As you resize your browser, their site resizes with it. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/web-design-reviews/131578-bum-designs.html Also, you have too many image links. Don't be afraid to use text. Again look at amazon (or any major E-Commerce site...I use amazon because it was the first to pop into my head, and they make millions, so they must be doing something right). Do you see image links with rollovers? No. The only images used as links are either pictures of products, or the logos of "featured partners." Lastly, keep it as light and cheerful as you can. This means lots of white, or bright colors. You have dark colors for your navigation, left bar, and your background when someones resolution is too high. Compare this again to amazon, and you will see that they have like 90% white, and the res is nice bright blues, etc. Only go dark if you are trying to sell to a dark crowd (like goth clothing, etc).

10-14-2005, 03:31 PM	THREAD STARTER #13 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	first off, I know it needs a header and I will add one later. I will take off the little title boxes, or change em. As far as someone saying something about amazon well theres quite a bit of difference. Amazon sells products not web design, Amazon has a user friendly design but not really an appealing one. As far as the rollovers they arent meant to be drastic. They are meant to look as if a light is shining over them, and I know its kind of unnoticable on the other nav bar and I will change that. Also to the person who said you liked the other one better, well I will still have it(although its a bit changed) but I decided to make an intro page that allows the user to pick there design. So they will have an option to choose this one, the other one, or another one I plan to make soon. __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

10-14-2005, 05:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Troubled1 NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 306	Not a bad looking site for most purposes however I believe that a site selling web design should reach out and grab attention. Just a personal taste I guess. The site is nice but I wouldn't buy webdesign from you simply because the site just doesn't grab me. Looks a bit to much like a template.

10-14-2005, 05:21 PM	THREAD STARTER #15 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	i added a new header and some more colors and changed some other stuff __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

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10-14-2005, 06:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
shadow_boi NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver Posts: 533	the background behind "quick info" and "news today" seems too big, and the gray color doesnt look nice, so make some changes to it

10-14-2005, 08:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
ChrisKL NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 141	[Web design mode] Off the bat, no DTD, which will cause any viewing in any browser to default to what it feels best (or in IE it's quirks mode, which can destroy a page). Always add the correct DTD, it's as essential as the <html></html> tag. Example: PHP Code: `<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">` [The xml tag is really crucial if you plan to use any RSS] Will also need to use the correct html to call CSS This.... PHP Code: `<style type="text/css">` Needs to be this (in xhtml)... PHP Code: `<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /> <style type="text/css"> <!--/--><![CDATA[/><!--/ <!-- ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=131578 [add CSS or stylesheet link here] /]]>/--></style>` [utf-8 is preferred, since it's international and works with everything, and you need to add the CDATA type to tell the browser/XML engine what data is being presented] And you use only one. Use an import for per browser specific tags (or use hacks <-- it doesn't look pretty, but it gets the job done). If this is HTML 4.01 you can get away with caps for tags, if it's XHTML you'll have to lose them (capital letters have meaning in XHTML). ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=131578 Don't use images like that in 2005 web pages. It'll break if someone decides to increase the font size (why everyone is moving away from it). Spacer.gifs also are a waste, it's a "fudge" factor for alignment, which isn't necessary and waste resources. They also can be full of web bugs, which can give your site a negative impression. Now to visuals... Since it's a cut-up site, the images take f-o-r-e-v-e-r to load. And if this is a web design site, it kills the impression. True web designers can whip up a simple site in notepad alone -- not ImageReady. As for your question about the impression of the site: I'd leave if it's a web design site, since... 1. No Flash (web designers need to show a leg here of that speciality, even if it's just a simple Swish text spin). 2. The web page code is non-compliant. 3. It's a cut and paste site. 4. Is not ADA compliant (which web design sites need to be to show their future clients they can even handle those projects [which offer some serious money]) -- absolutely nothing there to show the design firm can handle it, from table descriptions to d-links, or at least a ADA special page. Remember: not everyone is 15 years-old. Not everyone has 20/20 eyesight. Not everyone is going to read the text at "medium" size (IE). With a cut/paste site if someone uses a different text setting it'll break the tables, divs and screw up the presentation royally. CKL __________________ ))) You can't stop, what you haven't started.* ((( x================================================x Illustrator and Photo Restorer \| vBulletin and Computer modder/builder Don't believe the hype: Firefox Bad for Advertizers \| Firefox Security Issues

10-14-2005, 08:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
steadler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Essex, England Posts: 1,196	not something i would use or design, but it looks nice and the navagation is easy all in all i think a nice soimple design __________________ Direct Marketing All Around Marketing Solutions

10-15-2005, 09:10 AM	THREAD STARTER #19 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	try enlarging the font __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

10-15-2005, 02:42 PM	THREAD STARTER #20 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	ok I added this new(actually old) design www.designs.bumrecords.net/designs2.html Many of you might think its better thats why Im going to make one more thats a bit more professional than the 2 __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

10-15-2005, 02:53 PM	#21 (permalink)
rustypaulin NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 344	i prefer the first one __________________ Wii News

10-15-2005, 03:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
Albino Munky Designs Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 996	everytime i click on the links I get a different homepage, how many have you done ?! __________________ Toddish.co.uk - Portfolio/Blog Powcomics.com - Webcomic Hosting/Directory Erant.co.uk - vent your rage!

10-15-2005, 05:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
Troubled1 NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 306	The second one is a bit better, it got my attention

10-18-2005, 08:21 PM	THREAD STARTER #24 (permalink)
def1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,538	i thought i added this but i guess not I also added www.bumrecords.net/designs/index3.html __________________ Did you try my toolbar? Works in Firefox and IE! http://www.bumrecords.net - Fun Games, Music, Discussion, And Much More! uploadÂ² â€¢Pick the Web Hosting Company most NamePros Members Use Pick Chronichosting!â€¢

10-18-2005, 08:47 PM	#25 (permalink)
deet Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,925	Site looks good __________________ ----------------

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