Flashcent

killaklown · 10-10-2005, 09:33 AM

what do you think of http://www.flashcent.com ? i still want to do something to the newest games and most played games at the top so it'll look better there, but what do you think of it?

the newest game and most popular game thing i have in mind is something like black border, black top/bottom and then white sections with gradent (little) and a black line under each section (each section will be like 75 pixels tall and like 300-350 wide)

Shorty · 10-10-2005, 10:25 AM

That cacky green colour is disturbing! I would suggest either using a different one or at least use more of it so it appears to be a theme rather than arbitrarily placed there...

Putting the most popular and newest at the top is a good idea, they could use a border around it just to section it off and maintain the theme of the site.

killaklown · 10-10-2005, 11:23 AM

the green is part of the theme...

GHoD · 10-10-2005, 12:29 PM

I say good job, i have the same game script and it wasnt easy adding the template on to it, nice work, theres an update comming next week to the script aswell, hopefully there wont be to much work needed to accomidate the template, id hold of from doing more changes till then m8.

killaklown · 10-10-2005, 12:34 PM

next week? u mean in like 2 days :P thats october 12, lol...

GHoD · 10-10-2005, 12:41 PM

Ahh is it that soon, i knew it was soon as i read an email not so long ago about it.
Looking forward to the new additions but dreading any modifications that may need doing to the template lol.

killaklown · 10-10-2005, 12:47 PM

meh it wont be much... maybe take an hour at the most.

leviathon · 10-10-2005, 01:38 PM

It's pretty good. A few things

Maybe you can centre the whole thing?

And the green text on the Google Ads are disturbing even though it's a main theme

killaklown · 10-10-2005, 01:59 PM

i designed the template to be aligned like that, if i center it, the whole left would have no border or anything.

This is what it looks like centered (ignore bad quality, didnt feel like opening photoshop, so i opened paint

)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4599/centered5rk.gif

Shorty · 10-10-2005, 02:59 PM

I still think the green looks ugly, sorry.

The main menu and login images dont have the same colour as it, and the google words dont either, so it's not much of a continued theme.

ChrisKL · 10-10-2005, 03:16 PM

Still have a container padding issue. The containers need 10px room around it so the text doesn't hang on and over the container (it gives it a book page or a letter page look, and folks are so use to it).

The color is a no-no. It's so dark it's hard to make out the logo text. Use a brighter green (or better yellow) if you want to use that color.

Best to center the main container as well. Having it alllllll the way on the left with a large monitor, is a looooong reach to get to the links on the left nav panel.

CKL

killaklown · 10-10-2005, 04:10 PM

what do you mean by container?

what color would be good for the ads (targetfirst) to stand out and not look bad?

ChrisKL · 10-10-2005, 05:06 PM

Yikes! Just looked at the source and realized the site is at best xhtml 1.0 transitional. Me bad.

Just so use to everyone using full xhtml that I got used to expecting it. :/

The container would've been the div that contained the content (a wrapper is a div that's used to wrap around the container div for alignment purposes). A standard web page would have 4 div containers (banner, left nav panel, main panel, and footer) within xhtml strict.

Part of the problem I see now is that page has no DTD listing like this....

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

which forces IE into quirks mode and fouls it up, even w3c's validator completely balks at it.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...ashcent.com%2F

[Check your code against the validator. HTML-Tidy is even stricter if you really want to scrub your site for increased SEO]

Another thing -- there is no cellpadding, which is why the text is right against the TABLE's edge.

Are you comfortable with working with xhtml? The reason I ask is, the code is simple enough to convert over to divs only, and ditch the tables (which shouldn't be used for layout. W3C is laying that down hard -- tables are to be used only for tabular data, not aligning images or text). Divs really speed up page loads, and why they're becoming quite popular, too.

Once you work in xhtml strict/css, you don't ever want to return to html again. Just plain easier to design pages with.

CKL

killaklown · 10-10-2005, 05:22 PM

meh dont really know xhtml

(probably do but i dont know what xhtml is, lol)

anyways thanks for all the tips! it'll keep me busy, lol

LeetPCUser · 10-11-2005, 09:24 AM

I think first off you should center it. Also I think the colors are a little dark. It also plain. Sorry I can't give you ideas on how to make it look better, but I just noticed what looks off.

Rive · 10-11-2005, 10:18 AM

Great site, I love your games. The only problem is the layout, It needs to be centered...

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10-10-2005, 09:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
killaklown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 3,472 5.31 NP$ (Donate)	Flashcent what do you think of http://www.flashcent.com ? i still want to do something to the newest games and most played games at the top so it'll look better there, but what do you think of it? the newest game and most popular game thing i have in mind is something like black border, black top/bottom and then white sections with gradent (little) and a black line under each section (each section will be like 75 pixels tall and like 300-350 wide)

10-10-2005, 12:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
GHoD Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 208 318.00 NP$ (Donate)	I say good job, i have the same game script and it wasnt easy adding the template on to it, nice work, theres an update comming next week to the script aswell, hopefully there wont be to much work needed to accomidate the template, id hold of from doing more changes till then m8. __________________ Professional Affordable Banners / Website Header Design

10-10-2005, 12:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
GHoD Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 208 318.00 NP$ (Donate)	Ahh is it that soon, i knew it was soon as i read an email not so long ago about it. Looking forward to the new additions but dreading any modifications that may need doing to the template lol. __________________ Professional Affordable Banners / Website Header Design

10-10-2005, 03:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
ChrisKL NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 141 408.00 NP$ (Donate)	Still have a container padding issue. The containers need 10px room around it so the text doesn't hang on and over the container (it gives it a book page or a letter page look, and folks are so use to it). The color is a no-no. It's so dark it's hard to make out the logo text. Use a brighter green (or better yellow) if you want to use that color. Best to center the main container as well. Having it alllllll the way on the left with a large monitor, is a looooong reach to get to the links on the left nav panel. CKL __________________ ))) You can't stop, what you haven't started. ((( x================================================x Illustrator and Photo Restorer \| vBulletin and Computer modder/builder Don't believe the hype: Firefox Bad for Advertizers \| Firefox Security Issues

10-10-2005, 05:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
ChrisKL NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 141 408.00 NP$ (Donate)	Yikes! Just looked at the source and realized the site is at best xhtml 1.0 transitional. Me bad. Just so use to everyone using full xhtml that I got used to expecting it. :/ The container would've been the div that contained the content (a wrapper is a div that's used to wrap around the container div for alignment purposes). A standard web page would have 4 div containers (banner, left nav panel, main panel, and footer) within xhtml strict. Part of the problem I see now is that page has no DTD listing like this.... <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> which forces IE into quirks mode and fouls it up, even w3c's validator completely balks at it. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...ashcent.com%2F [Check your code against the validator. HTML-Tidy is even stricter if you really want to scrub your site for increased SEO] Another thing -- there is no cellpadding, which is why the text is right against the TABLE's edge. Are you comfortable with working with xhtml? The reason I ask is, the code is simple enough to convert over to divs only, and ditch the tables (which shouldn't be used for layout. W3C is laying that down hard -- tables are to be used only for tabular data, not aligning images or text). Divs really speed up page loads, and why they're becoming quite popular, too. Once you work in xhtml strict/css, you don't ever want to return to html again. Just plain easier to design pages with. CKL __________________ ))) You can't stop, what you haven't started. ((( x================================================x Illustrator and Photo Restorer \| vBulletin and Computer modder/builder Don't believe the hype: Firefox Bad for Advertizers \| Firefox Security Issues

10-10-2005, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Shorty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,035 102.05 NP$ (Donate)	That cacky green colour is disturbing! I would suggest either using a different one or at least use more of it so it appears to be a theme rather than arbitrarily placed there... Putting the most popular and newest at the top is a good idea, they could use a border around it just to section it off and maintain the theme of the site.

10-10-2005, 11:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
killaklown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 3,472 5.31 NP$ (Donate)	the green is part of the theme...

10-10-2005, 12:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
killaklown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 3,472 5.31 NP$ (Donate)	next week? u mean in like 2 days :P thats october 12, lol...

10-10-2005, 12:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
killaklown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 3,472 5.31 NP$ (Donate)	meh it wont be much... maybe take an hour at the most.

10-10-2005, 01:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
leviathon NamePros Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 675 172.25 NP$ (Donate)	It's pretty good. A few things Maybe you can centre the whole thing? And the green text on the Google Ads are disturbing even though it's a main theme

10-10-2005, 01:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
killaklown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 3,472 5.31 NP$ (Donate)	i designed the template to be aligned like that, if i center it, the whole left would have no border or anything. This is what it looks like centered (ignore bad quality, didnt feel like opening photoshop, so i opened paint ) http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4599/centered5rk.gif

10-10-2005, 02:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Shorty Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,035 102.05 NP$ (Donate)	I still think the green looks ugly, sorry. The main menu and login images dont have the same colour as it, and the google words dont either, so it's not much of a continued theme.

10-10-2005, 04:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
killaklown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 3,472 5.31 NP$ (Donate)	what do you mean by container? what color would be good for the ads (targetfirst) to stand out and not look bad?

10-10-2005, 05:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
killaklown Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 3,472 5.31 NP$ (Donate)	meh dont really know xhtml (probably do but i dont know what xhtml is, lol) anyways thanks for all the tips! it'll keep me busy, lol

10-11-2005, 09:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
LeetPCUser Account Suspended Join Date: May 2005 Location: Whitewater, WI Posts: 3,714 17.55 NP$ (Donate)	I think first off you should center it. Also I think the colors are a little dark. It also plain. Sorry I can't give you ideas on how to make it look better, but I just noticed what looks off.

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