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Old 04-15-2005, 04:31 AM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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newbie advice... a few tips on where best to spend my money


Sorry for double posting this but just niticed not to many people seem to look in the welcome area.


Hi I have just set up my first website (froma template) and really enjoyed it so am setting about to learn more.

Before I start can anyone offer me a few tips on where best to spend my money............

I have free access to
Macromedia dream weaver 4
Macromedia dream weaver MX6
Macromedia dream weaver MX2004
Hotmetal pro 6
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I don't mind spending a little money now to buy something else if it would be a lot better as I dont want to spend the next year learning to work in one app to then find i've wasted my time, what do experienced people recomend?

Same questions for art packages, i have access to PSP8 or adobe photoshop 7, which is best to learn?

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you have hosting?

and also, learn only light html, dont use dreamwaver, if you have windows, you have the best program, notepad, learn html without using editors, and when you learnt a little html, you should go straight to php, php is a powerful easy to learn language, and its FREE!!!
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i found that using a WYSIWYG eidtor was really helpfull becuase if your new you can practice coding in the coding view and then see whats happing quickly in the design view.
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I have to expand my knowledge on PHP, how can I do this?
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try having a look around here first
http://www.php.net/
and personally I would advise you to get a book as a reference to have it at hand while you work.
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I learnt using frontpage. I did things like inserting a form, and then going onto the HTML bit and seeing what it said.

There was a kid at my school who, when I was in yr 7, knew loads of HTML and javascript, and used to sit there in the computer room and code it all. He taught me a bit of stuff..

www.webmonkey.com is a great place. It is really helpful, and [sometimes] patronisingly easy!
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I learnt using frontpage. I did things like inserting a form, and then going onto the HTML bit and seeing what it said.

There was a kid at my school who, when I was in yr 7, knew loads of HTML and javascript, and used to sit there in the computer room and code it all. He taught me a bit of stuff..

www.webmonkey.com is a great place. It is really helpful, and [sometimes] patronisingly easy!
Yea i remember Web Monkey that was a really helpfull site when i was learning.
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heres a few others to help you aswell

http://www.pagetutor.com
http://www.funky-chickens.com
http://www.htmlhelp.com
http://www.pageresource.com

and a great HTML tags guide here

http://werbach.com/barebones/barebones.html

Hope this helps
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another good thing that I did was:

1. goto www.hotscripts.com or other such site
2. download a php script
3. look at the source code
4. work out how it is done (its relatively simple - if you get phpbb and do it they put in helpful comments)
5. try to write your own such script

worked for me
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I would suggest NOT using FP though, it is severely proprietary (like everything MS). It creates those horrid vti folders that make a duplicate of your site...something used with the FP extensions but once you set it up that way you MUST use FP to edit it later. Anyway, if you want to use a WYSIWYG go Dreamweaver, it's hard at first but people go great work with that one....and it's very respectable in the marketplace.

For graphics, go Photoshop.
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i know... I don't know what those folders are for?!?!? I used FP, but that was just to put stuff in the page (imgs and such) and see how they came out, as HTML code.
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i had them folders on my hosting, all my cpanel hosting has well had them, i just selected them and deleted them, i dont use microsoft software unless required, my laptops on linux, and the wireless seems to work, so im going to linux soon yippe, but frontpage i heard optimizes for that thing called internet exploder, i would reccomend deleting the IE reg keys, and uninstalling any MS software except windows, use open source or cheap software, thats a better idea
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Photoshop for sure..and maybe Dreamweaver
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thanks guys, photoshop and macromedia it is then.
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To keep cost down, you can use Adobe Photoshop Elements, and Dreamweaver. FOR FREE, you can use Crimson Editor, which allows you to hand code similar to notepad, but it color codes everything for you. After a while, you will realize that you've missed a code or what not because of the colors.

For basic tutorials, you can use W3Schools

And, if you're a student, always keep in mind Academic Superstore. I am no way affiliated with the, I was just turned onto them from my school and it's AWESOME!!

Hope that helps.
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