Advise needed

siddium · 03-09-2004, 12:10 AM

Hi all I'm new and just joined. Will set up my profile soon. Anyway I have a problem, kindly help a sister out.
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I designed a website for a political group and never got paid for it even though promised I would be paid. Subsequently I took it down and left the index page blank. Soon after the Political leader hijacked the website and transferred all my files to another domain name, keeping my template and style layout, but removing my logo and information. What would you do?

All help appreciated. And the site can be viewed at the URl below. If you click on any of the links and then change the .com to .org you'll see what I'm talking about. Thanks again!

The site

deadserious · 03-10-2004, 04:21 AM

Unfortunately there's not really much you can do about situations like this unless you have some type of signed contract or something. Is the .org yours or there's or?

Anthony · 03-10-2004, 06:11 PM

Sorry to hear about your problem. I agree that there's not much you can do about it. It may be possible to contact his ISP and complain, but you'll need proof that you designed the layout. Good luck.

identity_00 · 03-10-2004, 07:48 PM

basically complain agreed.

destroy his yahoo address with spam? not to mention the register mail? Contact the BBB?
leave a ton of negative feedback on alexa and let them know?
create your own Guyana institute sucks pages and dominate the search engine rankings for his/her rankings.
leave messages on the .org address explaining how much of crooks they are? Dont forget the .net if available?
subscribe to a bunch of services with their address?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=22986
Get incorporated and send NY collections on them?
Hire some hackers?

Mean enough? - maybe start small and work your way up on them and keep them informed.

The big lesson here is that if youre going to do the work and show them before they pay at least keep all the passwords private and maybe even a watermark to protect yourself.

good luck

PS. I dont recommend doing the above it was more of a joke.
FYI

listenmirndt · 03-12-2004, 04:00 AM

As the designer, you've got the originals of all the content on the site right - if there was any PSD work, or - 'workable' files that went into the site that they might not of gotten when they downloaded from the FTP... I think the evidence is in your court - or possibly, the file dates on your files will predate theirs, (tho im not positive about this) which would again, make for a little more evidence then your word against theirs.. id threaten some sort of legal action, offer som techi-evidence, and challange them to prove their work. (which ofcourse, is yours).. just a thought tho, i aint a legal expert.

dotcommakers · 03-12-2004, 11:54 PM

if you design the site.. you must have psd for that right? so you have right to fight against them. see in internet there is a law of copyright... we designers put out copyright at bottom when we finish design and it is copyrighed to us.. if somebudy steal it you can go against him. I CAN SAY JUST FIGHT WITH THEM.

siddium · 03-13-2004, 05:46 AM

Thanks all for the repllies. Much appreciated! I've taken up the case legally with lawyers versed in Internet law and wait to see the outcome.

Anthony · 03-15-2004, 12:11 AM

Great. Good luck with your case. Please update us with developments

dotcommakers · 03-18-2004, 03:35 AM

thats great .... best of luck

03-09-2004, 12:10 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
siddium New Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Italy Posts: 3	Advise needed Hi all I'm new and just joined. Will set up my profile soon. Anyway I have a problem, kindly help a sister out. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/web-design-discussion/22986-advise-needed.html I designed a website for a political group and never got paid for it even though promised I would be paid. Subsequently I took it down and left the index page blank. Soon after the Political leader hijacked the website and transferred all my files to another domain name, keeping my template and style layout, but removing my logo and information. What would you do? All help appreciated. And the site can be viewed at the URl below. If you click on any of the links and then change the .com to .org you'll see what I'm talking about. Thanks again! The site __________________ Life is what you make it

03-10-2004, 04:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
deadserious Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,255	Unfortunately there's not really much you can do about situations like this unless you have some type of signed contract or something. Is the .org yours or there's or? Last edited by deadserious; 03-10-2004 at 04:26 AM.

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listenmirndt New Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 18	As the designer, you've got the originals of all the content on the site right - if there was any PSD work, or - 'workable' files that went into the site that they might not of gotten when they downloaded from the FTP... I think the evidence is in your court - or possibly, the file dates on your files will predate theirs, (tho im not positive about this) which would again, make for a little more evidence then your word against theirs.. id threaten some sort of legal action, offer som techi-evidence, and challange them to prove their work. (which ofcourse, is yours).. just a thought tho, i aint a legal expert. __________________ Mirndtsoft PHP Scripts \| Featuring Automation for Paypal - Digital Goods, Ebay, Memberships, & Web Hostingwww.mirndtsoft.com

03-13-2004, 05:46 AM	THREAD STARTER #7 (permalink)
siddium New Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Italy Posts: 3	Thanks all for the repllies. Much appreciated! I've taken up the case legally with lawyers versed in Internet law and wait to see the outcome. __________________ Life is what you make it

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03-10-2004, 06:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anthony NamePros Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 9,132	Sorry to hear about your problem. I agree that there's not much you can do about it. It may be possible to contact his ISP and complain, but you'll need proof that you designed the layout. Good luck.

03-10-2004, 07:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
identity_00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,212	basically complain agreed. destroy his yahoo address with spam? not to mention the register mail? Contact the BBB? leave a ton of negative feedback on alexa and let them know? create your own Guyana institute sucks pages and dominate the search engine rankings for his/her rankings. leave messages on the .org address explaining how much of crooks they are? Dont forget the .net if available? subscribe to a bunch of services with their address? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=22986 Get incorporated and send NY collections on them? Hire some hackers? Mean enough? - maybe start small and work your way up on them and keep them informed. The big lesson here is that if youre going to do the work and show them before they pay at least keep all the passwords private and maybe even a watermark to protect yourself. good luck PS. I dont recommend doing the above it was more of a joke. FYI

03-12-2004, 11:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
dotcommakers Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: world wide web Posts: 2,062 Follow @dotcommakers	if you design the site.. you must have psd for that right? so you have right to fight against them. see in internet there is a law of copyright... we designers put out copyright at bottom when we finish design and it is copyrighed to us.. if somebudy steal it you can go against him. I CAN SAY JUST FIGHT WITH THEM.

03-15-2004, 12:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Anthony NamePros Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 9,132	Great. Good luck with your case. Please update us with developments

03-18-2004, 03:35 AM	#9 (permalink)
dotcommakers Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: world wide web Posts: 2,062 Follow @dotcommakers	thats great .... best of luck

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