A Stupid Question

hostbreak · 07-12-2005, 05:15 PM

I have just recently decided to jump into the ocean of designing (that’s web designing)

for which I am interested in learning different languages and tools to communicate with the species under water (browsers and servers).

So the question is which language and which tool will remain the finest, for hmmm lets say about all eternity (well I won’t be living for that long but I certainly need my work to remain there)

Every comment is welcome accept for dishearten one’s

wasabinut · 07-12-2005, 05:28 PM

Well I would go with PHP/MySQL and all things generic (ie; HTML etc)... That is just my personal opinion....
I have trusted and developed in PHP for quite sometime now and it has yet to fail me.......

Hope this helps..

aween · 07-13-2005, 05:15 AM

Yep php/mysql is the way for you

also try to master your design + html / css skills aswell

PoorDoggie · 07-13-2005, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by hostbreak

I have just recently decided to jump into the ocean of designing (that’s web designing) ...

well here you go:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/web-design-discussion/106083-a-stupid-question.html

1. learn HTML. Learn how to style and code HTML FIRST!!!!!
2. learn CSS next - this is important
3. learn php & mySql at the same time. Learn some php first, and then integrate it with mySql, as it makes your website more dynamic.

If you are learning HTML use the XHTML standards. This is the new browser format, and normal HTML won't work soon.

Jimmy Changa · 07-13-2005, 07:10 AM

You can do ALOT with just getting good at HTML and CSS. These are critical.

While PHP/MySQL is great to learn, you can get by with just getting familiar enough to be able adapt already written code to your purposes.

Let's not forget about learning graphics too. Also, basic layout rules.

GeneCosta · 07-13-2005, 09:48 AM

HTML is the bread and butter. From there you should learn CSS, and then PHP/MSQL.

hostbreak · 07-13-2005, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by PoorDoggie

well here you go:

1. learn HTML. Learn how to style and code HTML FIRST!!!!!
2. learn CSS next - this is important
3. learn php & mySql at the same time. Learn some php first, and then integrate it with mySql, as it makes your website more dynamic.

If you are learning HTML use the XHTML standards. This is the new browser format, and normal HTML won't work soon.

Thanks for those points.........
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=106083
How can you say html won't work soon I mean every one else is saying to go with HTML are you sure about html?

PoorDoggie · 07-13-2005, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by hostbreak

Thanks for those points.........
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=106083
How can you say html won't work soon I mean every one else is saying to go with HTML are you sure about html?

All browsers are moving to XHTML (extensible hypertext markup language). This is just HTML, but everything has to be closed, and all the HTMl has to be correct. So for instance:

HTML Code:

<input type="text">

is WRONG html (apparantly) and soon browsers will just ignore it.

whereas:

HTML Code:

<input type="text" />

this is "closed" (trailing " /") so will work.

also, cases such as:

HTML Code:

<b><u>Hello</b></u>

are wrong

whereas

HTML Code:

<b><u>Hello</u></b>

is correct.

Read about it at www.w3schools.com

DJ_Guvana · 07-13-2005, 11:16 AM

These are my tools.

- Dreamweaver
- Flash
- Adobe Photoshop

Languages:

- CSS
- PHP
- MySQL

Apart from that i use PHPBB for discussion boards, soon moving to VBulliten, as soon as i get some money.

PoorDoggie · 07-13-2005, 11:28 AM

DJ - how can you code those, without knowing HTML?

Jimmy Changa · 07-13-2005, 05:20 PM

PoorDoggie is right. Use the XHTML standards. They are just like a stricter form of HTML. Just a few differences.

I use Crimson Editor to code.

hostbreak · 07-13-2005, 06:41 PM

Ok so there is no such huge difference in HTML and XHTML

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Jimmy Changa PlanetBurrito.com Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 642	PoorDoggie is right. Use the XHTML standards. They are just like a stricter form of HTML. Just a few differences. I use Crimson Editor to code. __________________ My Current Domain Listings. Celebrity & Model Website Portal I ate some prunes today and they didn't do shit for me! - Jimmy Changa

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