Traffic scammer at sedo - LBTN.com

Tim Schoon · 06-08-2011, 11:48 AM

LBTN.com is at sedo auction - check this screenshot:

According to the seller, the domain has 'nice traffic' - the stats show 2.5k uniques / mo.

I spoke to the last owner, who sold it just recently. He showed me HIS parking stats for the domain.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/718074-traffic-scammer-at-sedo-lbtn-com.html

Conclusion:
The owner - Eli Hayut - buys cheap traffic to boost his sedo sales. a day after the buyer gets the name it will be back at 12 uv/month.

People like this should be banned from selling domains.

Whois shows a bogus address - but also this name and email address:
Eli Hayut
eli_hayut@hotmail.com

Don't do business with this guy.

glaxxon · 06-08-2011, 01:01 PM

There might be another possibility though, he might be emailing a list of people he might have who land up on his site.

But most probably, he is sending fake traffic looking at facts.

Tim Schoon · 06-08-2011, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by glaxxon

There might be another possibility though, he might be emailing a list of people he might have who land up on his site.

But most probably, he is sending fake traffic looking at facts.

Who is emailing 2.5k people to visit a parking page? Thats also still traffic fraud.

pheven · 06-09-2011, 08:12 AM

Toilet Monster, I've bought from you before, so maybe you remember me as a straight shooter.

I have had numerous dealings with Eli Hayut, and have always found him to be a man of his word. He has open, clear communications, and always follows through with his promises.

He is so honest and trustworthy in our deals, that he is the only person which I have EVER just pushed a name over prior to even receiving payment. I always get payment, and he usually even mass pays it.

As I've already said in my response to your corresponding attack on DNF, I do not buy your arguments as PROOF. Yes, your data is a strong indication of a "potential" problem, but without access to enough facts to constitute proof - unless Sedo confirms the reason for their actions.

I still believe in innocence until PROVEN guilty, and your claim of absolute fraud is premature.

While I never buy traffic, I have had LLLL.com experience unexplained traffic boosts and loss at Sedo having had 550 there to analyze.

Let's wait for something provable facts, that aren't just circumstantial, before crucifying someone I've found to be extremely honest and ethical in the past.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=718074

Steve

Tim Schoon · 06-09-2011, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by pheven

Toilet Monster, I've bought from you before, so maybe you remember me as a straight shooter.

I have had numerous dealings with Eli Hayut, and have always found him to be a man of his word. He has open, clear communications, and always follows through with his promises.

He is so honest and trustworthy in our deals, that he is the only person which I have EVER just pushed a name over prior to even receiving payment. I always get payment, and he usually even mass pays it.

As I've already said in my response to your corresponding attack on DNF, I do not buy your arguments as PROOF. Yes, your data is a strong indication of a "potential" problem, but without access to enough facts to constitute proof - unless Sedo confirms the reason for their actions.

I still believe in innocence until PROVEN guilty, and your claim of absolute fraud is premature.

While I never buy traffic, I have had LLLL.com experience unexplained traffic boosts and loss at Sedo having had 550 there to analyze.

Let's wait for something provable facts, that aren't just circumstantial, before crucifying someone I've found to be extremely honest and ethical in the past.

Steve

The screenshots tell the whole story. There is just no way this is honest legit traffic..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=718074

I have contacted sedo and they shut down the parking page after some research. I've just sent them an email to ask to reveal the traffic source. They don't shut down services if the traffic is honest..

glaxxon · 06-09-2011, 09:10 AM

Nice work Toilet Monster...

06-08-2011, 11:48 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Tim Schoon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,180	Traffic scammer at sedo - LBTN.com LBTN.com is at sedo auction - check this screenshot: According to the seller, the domain has 'nice traffic' - the stats show 2.5k uniques / mo. I spoke to the last owner, who sold it just recently. He showed me HIS parking stats for the domain. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/718074-traffic-scammer-at-sedo-lbtn-com.html Conclusion: The owner - Eli Hayut - buys cheap traffic to boost his sedo sales. a day after the buyer gets the name it will be back at 12 uv/month. People like this should be banned from selling domains. Whois shows a bogus address - but also this name and email address: Eli Hayut eli_hayut@hotmail.com Don't do business with this guy. __________________ PEJ.com - high-end domain name brokerage & portfolio management Last edited by Tim Schoon; 06-10-2011 at 11:53 AM.

06-08-2011, 01:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
glaxxon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: India Posts: 1,461 Follow @glaxxon	There might be another possibility though, he might be emailing a list of people he might have who land up on his site. But most probably, he is sending fake traffic looking at facts. __________________ █ DotSutra - Domains, Dev & More █ Twerg.com - Premium Domain Brokers █ WebCoInc - Boutique Web Design Studio █ Minisites.co.in - Minisite Development Service

06-09-2011, 08:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
pheven NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 182	Toilet Monster, I've bought from you before, so maybe you remember me as a straight shooter. I have had numerous dealings with Eli Hayut, and have always found him to be a man of his word. He has open, clear communications, and always follows through with his promises. He is so honest and trustworthy in our deals, that he is the only person which I have EVER just pushed a name over prior to even receiving payment. I always get payment, and he usually even mass pays it. As I've already said in my response to your corresponding attack on DNF, I do not buy your arguments as PROOF. Yes, your data is a strong indication of a "potential" problem, but without access to enough facts to constitute proof - unless Sedo confirms the reason for their actions. I still believe in innocence until PROVEN guilty, and your claim of absolute fraud is premature. While I never buy traffic, I have had LLLL.com experience unexplained traffic boosts and loss at Sedo having had 550 there to analyze. Let's wait for something provable facts, that aren't just circumstantial, before crucifying someone I've found to be extremely honest and ethical in the past. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=718074 Steve __________________ See SmallDomainNames.com for Nearly 200 High Quality LLLL.com Domains

06-09-2011, 09:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
glaxxon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: India Posts: 1,461 Follow @glaxxon	Nice work Toilet Monster... __________________ █ DotSutra - Domains, Dev & More █ Twerg.com - Premium Domain Brokers █ WebCoInc - Boutique Web Design Studio █ Minisites.co.in - Minisite Development Service

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