Zhirgoyt

I was contacted tonight by a man from a company called "Name Business Solutions LLC" that said he had a client that was interested in buying my domain. I am very new to domaining so I do not know how these things "go down" usually, but I would just like to know if anyone has heard of this company before and if they are legit or not? He has not been asking me to use any appraising service yet, and if he does I will not use it.

He has asked me what my asking price for the domain is, and I do not know what to tell him since I haven't done this before. The domain name is wtfbit.com, and I do know this isn't a great domain name but it might be of use to someone. Can I set an asking price of $100+ since he has actually sought out the domain?

Appreciate any help you can give me.
Hope this is in the right category.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/690227-name-business-solutions-llc.html
/Zhirgoyt

GoQuickly

If you reply and he offers you to an appraisal service, it's a scam.

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Considering your domain, and that you were approached by someone to do with domaining who said it was on behalf of a client... I'm 95% sure it will turn out to be an appraisal scam. 'WTF bit' makes no real sense except as an incidental part of a sentence, like 'WTF bit me while I was out walking!' That appears to be the only use for this name whatsoever and I highly doubt some corporate, or even small, client would ask a professional (and legit) domain broker to open a buying process with you. It's possible, but very very unlikely.

If someone is interested enough to ask a broker to do the domain acquisition for them, then they have a little money to spend and, just in case, I'd ask around $500 for the name. If it is a legit broker and that price is too much, it won't scare them off because they are used to negotiating. Tell them a high price because you won't lose anything by it.

But I'd be willing to bet money it's appraisal scam. Just smells like it, there are a few clues.

The good news is I googled 'name business solutions llc' and there seems to be no prior posts about this entity being involved with a scam, or with anything actually. Which doesn't mean anything other than it may simply be a new signature some old scammer has switched to... it's certainly no registered company or online presence. The bad news is, that's one of the clues... that term is similar to other long, corporate-sounding terms these scammers invent to make themselves seem legit.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=690227
GL, let us know how it plays out.

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Zhirgoyt

Well, thanks alot for the input. I really appreciate it. I suspected this to be a scam since, as you mentioned, the name ain't that good. I was thinking bit as either a bit of something, video or otherwise, or byte-sounding, but it just didn't work out.

I sent a reply telling him I wasn't sure of the price yet. Then I asked him how long thinking time I had. If I do not get a reply like: "I know a great apprasial-service that you can use." I'll probably tell him I'm looking to get $500 and see what response I get.

I'll keep you posted.

alien51

Just wondering, if your domain name "ain't that good" from your own appraisal, then why did you buy that domain in the first place? Do you have any use for it? Aren't you happy there's a buyer for that "crappy" domain?

So how can one sell a "crappy domain" (like i was drunk when i bought it, now i just wanna get rid of it for a few bucks than letting it drop)? So a crappy domain buyer should never use a "broker" that would make the sales talk suspicious?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=690227

I see a lot of crappy domains (in my view) that sold more than 500 bucks in the marketplace. Perhaps the sellers of those domains can't believe someone can be so stupid to pay them with that kind of moolah for such useless domains.

Zhirgoyt

Well, I am new to this kind of thing, and when I bought it I thought it was quite good. Now, after reading alot of posts here, I'm starting to get seconds thought. It could still be of use to someone I guess, but I'm not happy with the buy.

Back to the email. I've gotten a reply from the "broker" and it turned out to be just what we (you) expected.

Can you accept 10,000 usd for the following three names:
wtfbit.com
yawdo.com
placeraters.com

Our client has a 30,000 usd budget for several names. Have you had your domain names evaluated by certified valuation experts in the past? Even if your domain has no web site it's possible to appraise it. Without a valuation certificate our client cannot be sure in the sale price. Moreover, our accountant and tax services always ask for valaution certificates. On the other side, it's very important for him in terms of reselling too. Of course, we must engage an independent valuation company with a real manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources our client trust. We don't have certified experts in domain valuations and use independent reliable companies for appraisals.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://www.thenamepros.com/Archive/920184731.htm

My response:
Dear Ryan.
$10,000 for those three domains is an extreme overprice, I cannot accept a bid over $3,000 dollars, since I am an honest human being. I do have my own appraisal service that I use, and I will send you a certificate when I have it. I use one of the best appraisal services there is, and I assure you your client will not be disappointed.

I will be in contact with you in a few days.

Thought the bold text was a nice touch.

alien51

If he can offer 10k, i don't see why he would still insist that you go to an appraisal house now that you are slashing 7k off his offer price. I doubt if he will reply again. lol.

.jd.

You're a "honest human being"?

You do realize how ridiculous you sound. Almost as ridiculous as your fake 10k offer that you probably received from some nigerian man.

Thanks for the laugh.

- John

rmg

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Zhirgoyt

... Well that was the point. Since the 10k offer was obviously fake and he only wanted to scam me into paying money for using his own appraisal service I am saying that he is not honest.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=690227

Why would you say that I am not honest? You don't even know me. Not very respectful.

I did get a reply that made it even more clear that it was a scam, btw.

Thanks to the people that actually contributed to my initial question.

glaxxon

John didn't mean to say you are not honest. He meant that reading that made him laugh as it sounds funny.
Don't take it personally.

Once again welcome to the forum and hope you learn a lot...

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Zhirgoyt

If that was the case I apologize John, it didn't sound like that.

Thanks for the welcome glaxxon, I hope I learn alot... it's becoming obvious I need it

srisri24

i too received the same message. I think he is one of the registered members of namepros. i am not active on any other forums, i use namepros 99%, once i listed some domain for sale here, i got email asking about the same names. He is also using a FAKE namepros site called"thenamepros" -- just to wan you about his fake site

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realtimeregister

This scam is getting old. Did you list the domain on Sedo recently ??

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nielsencl

This scammer has anothe thread under a different Title here: http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...ent-group.html.

This is the first time I was contacted by them and almost fell for their scam because it's very slick. Here is the message they sent:For those that have not seen this scam before, they first say they are interested in your doaina and may offer you a lot of money for it. Then they set the hook by saying that YOU must get an appraisal to make sure the domain is work the price. And if the apprasical is higher than the price, they will pay you the larger amount. They offer some places to get an apprasisl and hope you will choose the most logical one discussed at a fake forum on, of all things, TheNamePros.com!!!!!!!

After you pay for an apprasisal, then they lose interest and you are stuck with your domain and a WORTHLESSS apprasial that you had to pay for.

IF YOU HAVE FALLEN FOR THIS SCAM, please do two things: 1) Read the main thread listed above and learn how YOU CAN GET YOUR MONEY BACK! Many people have gotten refunds either from the "appraisal" site or the payment processor. If you need help let me know, but all the info you need is in the other thread. 2) POST ABOUT THIS SCAM! We need everyone to post about it on many different sites and blogs so that more people can avoid this scam.

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I just got off the phone talking with Godaddy Abuse and they are going to investigate.

This and all other such emails should be reported as SPAM at the very least. If many people report them the chances that they will be shut down are much better.

nielsencl

The main thread for this scam is http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...-business.html.

You can read there how to get your money back if you fell for the scam and also what you can do to help get them shut down.

nielsencl

Update:

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Zhirgoyt

Thanks! I'll check it out.

almir

lol, got one mail today for vb-coder.com

hawkeye

Ha, I just got one too. Here was my response:

The price is $XXX, bank wire or escrow.com, and don't waste our time asking for an appraisal. Won't happen.

Bet, check or fold.

Regards,
dnURLs.com

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Please: If you get one of these emails, report it to their hosting provider and domain registrar. At the very least it is SPAM.

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revok

same scam email from



unfortunatly I wasn't smart enough to check google, so I paid for the appraisal, what I can do to get money back? I just send an email to my bank asking them to block the payment cause I discovered it was for a SCAM service, do have I any other thing to do?

nielsencl

Contacting your bank was a good idea, but I would contact the payment processor that was used (Plimus?) and let them know about the scam. If you have trouble getting a refund, let me know and I will try to help.

revok

thank you so much, the company is SWREG, I just sent the dispute request, as soon as I receive new from them I'll let you know.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=690227
Thanks again!

nielsencl

No problem. SWREG is actually located in my area. Once you provide them proof of the sequence of events and refer them to this thread, you should get your money back.

To all: If an appraisal service warns you about this scam and you get the apprasial anyway, then you should not expect to get a refund. If they don't warn you, then they may be aware or a part of this scam.

No domain owner should EVER pay for an appraisal for a buyer.

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