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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nothingness.info
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Apprasial scam This is allmost the same exact email that I got at a different email address. There is allready a thread abou this guy but I couldnt find it. Here is the email that I got: From michael-steinberg@name-business.com Hello, How much do you want for your domain? We have found it listed for sale and we have a good offer for you. Our company invests in domains and developed sites. If you have a list of domains for sale, please send the list with prices in plain text. We prefer ".com", ".net", ".co", ".co.uk", ".us" and easy-to-remember ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/678628-apprasial-scam.html names with other extensions. Regards, Michael Steinberg CEO NB&T LLC (Web Hosting & Name Investing) ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ======
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| NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2010
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![]() ![]() | I also got the same email this morning. Hello, How much do you want for your domain? We have found it listed for sale and we have a good offer for you. Our company invests in domains and developed sites. If you have a list of domains for sale, please send the list with prices in plain text. We prefer ".com", ".net", ".co", ".co.uk", ".us" and easy-to-remember names with other extensions. Regards, Michael Steinberg CEO NB&T LLC (Web Hosting & Name Investing) ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ====== I thought it would be prudent to do some due diligence on this person/firm before sending any response - it seems this was a wise move! Incidentally, the domain for this person's email address (name-business.com) redirects to: webhostingclue.com |
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| New Member Join Date: Sep 2010
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![]() | He's driving new people to this site since he used this site to create his spam post. This is what I got.
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| New Member Join Date: Sep 2010
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![]() | Got the very same message today. Lucky I flicked through this thread before. ![]()
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ireland
Posts: 228
![]() ![]() ![]() | [qoute] ================================================== ====== ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=678628 NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ====== [/qoute] A classic sign of an email being a scam.When I see this in emails from sites I haven't signed up on or agreed to receive emails from then I know to steer clear of them. |
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ireland
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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=678628 That way he has your domain but never pays the money or pays next to nothing of what he promised. | ||||
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| First Time Poster! Join Date: Oct 2010
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![]() | Same e-mail I received essentially the same e-mail this morning but from mark-groover@name-business.com. The content of the e-mail is almost exactly the same. I was at first misled because name-business.com redirects to webhostingclue comwhich looks like it's a valid Bluehost site so I did a little digging. First webhosting clue com is owned by a guy in Hong Kong. The site was registered in 2006 and expires in 2018. Here's the details: Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: WEBHOSTINGCLUE.COM Created on: 06-Oct-06 Expires on: 06-Oct-18 Last Updated on: 01-Jan-10 This may be valid because I don't know many scammers that would take out a 12 year registration. He's probably being redirected to because his site looks like the kind of site that would purchase domains. So a little more work with the shovel uncovered that the address of the original e-mail, name-business.com is owned by: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States but this is the interesting part. Look at the registration information for this address: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=678628 Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: NAME-BUSINESS.COM Created on: 07-Sep-10 Expires on: 07-Sep-11 Last Updated on: 07-Sep-10 It was created just a few days ago. Seems like this is a big time scam to phish domain names from unsuspecting people and perhaps hijack the better ones.
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| New Member Join Date: Oct 2010
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![]() | I actually just responded to this thread because I did an email search for the guys email address and found this thread indexed as a result. I think the "scam" is much easier than this. The link he gives in his response to your inquiry is: thenamepros . com/Archive/ 9217506.htm When you lookup thenamepros . com it takes you to webhostingforums.com I registered there and did a search for Groover, Nameseller, and Don Williams - none exist. It's possible that he was just having a conversation with himself in that thread and it all points to using Certified Domain Value com wanted .asp as the "independent manual evaluation service" and for $59Euro you can get someone to evaluate your website for him. That may be his business. He may just be drumming up business by quoting you a very high price for your domain so you get excited and think that a $59Euro investement is peanuts in comparison. In fact, in his email he asks me if the site is developed or I would just be willing to sell the name. It would be obvious if he checked it out. Here is what you do. Agree to his terms, but tell him to use that service and that you will use another service once he submits it's report. This way the risk is even more minimial to him since TWO independent domain name evaluation services will be giving an assessment, and that you guys will agree to something in between the two. Here are the email exchanges. You can see how he has responded to that proposal on my part:
Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Domain Name: CERTIFIEDDOMAINVALUE.COM Created on: 02-Jul-10 Expires on: 02-Jul-11 Last Updated on: 02-Jul-10 Interesting way to scam a hundred bucks or so off of unsuspecting domainers. Dumb fecker! If anyone gets this message, reply with the same response I've given you, then post the responses here. Hopefully this page can get indexed high enough that if anyone is astute enough to do a search on his web domain, or email, they find it and avoid the scam! Enjoy, Jay
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| New Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan
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![]() | Happy I found this thread, big thank you to those that brought this to attention. I received the same emails as some of you, I will post the messages from him that I received and again he directs me to the namepros . com
Thank you again for this heads up, it potentially saved me from a huge mistake.
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| NamePros Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 26
![]() | You guys can send a phishing report to godaddy here: http://supportcenter.godaddy.com/Abuse/SpamReport.aspx Be sure to include the headers from the email you received. Does anyone know the URL of his fake appraisal company? |
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| @IndianJewelry.net Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Chicago, IL
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | If you're not totally new to domaining you'd know that these are common "domain-related" scams... Most of the times, you'd end up paying for "something" and they will never buy your domain.
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| New Member Join Date: Aug 2010
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![]() | fuh...that scammer almost got me..I got one also Hello, How much do you want for your domain? We have found it listed for sale and we have a good offer for you. Our company invests in domains and developed sites. If you have a list of domains for sale, please send the list with prices in plain text. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=678628 We prefer ".com", ".net", ".co", ".co.uk", ".us" and easy-to-remember names with other extensions. Regards, Mark Groover CEO Name & Hosting Solutions LLC ================================================== ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ====== |
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| New Member Join Date: Oct 2010
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Certified Domain Value dot com It was registered via domainsbyproxy in July. He's making everyone get all excited by offering them big coin, and indirectly sending them to that site by linking to another domain pro website where he's having a conversation with several of his own sock puppets, to give the illusion of solidarity, where one of them plugs the Certified Domain Value dot com site. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=678628 ![]() They charge $59Euro per "evaluation" which is the scam. He thinks if he hits up enough domain owners with a big number, the $59Euro fee will pale in comparison. What a dumb feck! | ||||
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| NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ireland
Posts: 228
![]() ![]() ![]() | domainsbyproxy is godaddys email when a buyer chooses privacy protection(how i know this?I happen to have privacy on a domain of mine at godaddy). So report anyone who got this email should forward it to godaddy customer support along with the complaint that the registrant is running a scam on a domain purchased at godaddy and that uses privacy protection. |
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| NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 27
![]() | Got this exact e-mail this morning, replied with my price and haven't heard back yet. Glad i did a Google search on the company name he listed at the bottom of his e-mail. My e-mail came from wahlstrom@name-business.com Sending the godaddy spam report now. -tw |
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| New Member Join Date: Aug 2010
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![]() | Got the similar email yesterday. The 2nd email also ask for 'evaluated by certified valuation experts' .
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