1&1 internet stole my domain?

ru1041 · 03-19-2009, 04:16 PM

I bought the domain pfizer.us at 1&1 the other night. About 2:00 the following day I get an email saying that they needed to verify my account for security reasons( I have had an account there for several months). So I fax them my ID. Later I look at my account and it says the domain pfizer.us is not available. Then I get a letter from them saying that the domain was not available and they would give me a free domain. I checked and the domain had been registered that morning by someone else. I dont know what the domain might be worth, but I think at the least they are liable for not purchasing my domain when I paid for it, or possibly something far worse like putting my order on hold so that someone else could buy the domain. Any comments would be appreciated.

HappyDay · 03-19-2009, 04:36 PM

I think you can do nothing against 1and1.Such things happens often. The site is already new registered and for sale again.
Check domaintools to find out more about the new owner.

Deathstarr · 03-19-2009, 05:40 PM

Dont Use 1and1 they do this often.

domainerx · 03-19-2009, 09:29 PM

Wouldn't that name have a trademark problem? Couldn't Pfizer just take the domain if someone reports it to them?

HappyDay · 03-20-2009, 05:20 AM

Yes, I think so. To avoid trademark issues with this name its clever to use the forename in the url also for a personal website.
More info about Pfizer and the long history can be found at Wikipedia.

nastyrunner · 03-20-2009, 09:49 AM

They stole money from me too! They renewed my domains without notifying me every that they were going to expire, and then the same day i mail them, and they dont give me my money back. In return they blame me for everything saying that I should know when my domains are expiring and react accordingly.
1and1 sucks!

HappyDay · 03-20-2009, 10:49 AM

I personally would be very carefully with such statements about an etablisment organisation like 1and1 and thinking more about Trademark violation its better to not own a pfizer.tld

*namenut* · 03-20-2009, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by HappyDay

I think you can do nothing against 1and1.Such things happens often. The site is already new registered and for sale again.
Check domaintools to find out more about the new owner.

Originally Posted by HappyDay

Yes, I think so. To avoid trademark issues with this name its clever to use the forename in the url also for a personal website.
More info about Pfizer and the long history can be found at Wikipedia.

Originally Posted by HappyDay

I personally would be very carefully with such statements about an etablisment organisation like 1and1 and thinking more about Trademark violation its better to not own a pfizer.tld

Welcome to NPs HappyDay.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/568363-1-1-internet-stole-my-domain.html

Good advice "Happy" ..... and nice to see new members seriously contributing.

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ru1041 · 03-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by HappyDay

I personally would be very carefully with such statements about an etablisment organisation like 1and1 and thinking more about Trademark violation its better to not own a pfizer.tld

Just a couple of questions. Is this referring to what I said?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=568363
What do you mean by forename?

HappyDay · 03-20-2009, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by ru1041

Just a couple of questions. Is this referring to what I said?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=568363
What do you mean by forename?

The really didn´t stole your name.Dn_Hunter snapped the name if I remember correctly and I guess within a few seconds and such things happens every day and every hour and minute.
I meant the first name.
If someones name is pfizer he should better use first name + familyname instead of only pfizer.

ru1041 · 03-20-2009, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by HappyDay

The really didn´t stole your name.Dn_Hunter snapped the name if I remember correctly and I guess within a few seconds and such things happens every day and every hour and minute.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=568363
I meant the first name.
If someones name is pfizer he should better use first name + familyname instead of only pfizer.

Sorry, but if you think what they did to me is acceptable, I have to disagree.
The name was available and I bought it. They had no right to sell it out from under me.
Small world, I see that dn-hunter is the one who bought the name. I have no complaints with him. I bought the name at 8:25 am on the 17th thru 1&1 and he bought the name at 9.05am (corrected for time change) on the same day, that's my point.

HappyDay · 03-20-2009, 04:20 PM

I didn´t know there where around 30 minutes between both registrations.
But like I said before such things happens. Its disagreeable to hear that you had such a negative experience but you have learned a lesson.
Several years ago I had a similar experience with the registration of my 1. site (took 3 days) and I have learned from this.

Today I use a Domain registration robot and can register quickly.

Dean · 03-20-2009, 09:58 PM

Dont use 1&1, everyone knows they are dodgy.

Timewarp · 03-22-2009, 11:26 AM

1and1 is the only registrar I know of that does not register domains real time, not sure what their problem is but now I avoid them.

EGS · 03-22-2009, 04:24 PM

1&1 has a horrible reputation for both domain registration and web hosting. Also, as a word of advice, stick to domain registrars for domain registration and web hosting companies for web hosting.

I would highly recommend the registrar TierraNet (Tierra.net) - they are the best registrar. I've tried all of the leading ones over the years, including but not limited to, eNom, NameCheap, GoDaddy, DomainSite, Moniker, MyDomain, and RegisterFly, and none compare to TierraNet. TierraNet has superior pricing, security, and customer support, all bundled in one awesome registrar. Check them out!

Pommy - The DN Doc · 04-24-2009, 06:38 AM

I have posted an article on my blog about what to do about billing and other problems with 1and1
here.

I would welcome any comments or feedback.

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Maurizio1230 · 04-26-2009, 08:37 AM

DO NOT USE 1and1. I have bad experience for hosting and domain many years ago.

jdenwar · 04-26-2009, 12:54 PM

DONOT USE 1and1

They are the worse among all..
Last year I lost my two CVCV.com and a keyword domain when transferring to GD.
they deleted the domain and someone snaps that up....
1and1 is a company established by two kids and they sucks..

-jd

testingyou · 04-26-2009, 03:49 PM

1and1 is actually a very big company with 40% ownership of Sedo.

Not that I defend them, I really hate their control panel and the lack of bulk changes, but they are not a small company.

Nastyrunner, they do have a point with the renewal. In 1and1 you have to actively change the renewal from automatic to manual if you dont want 1and1 to renew the domain names automaticly. Default when you register a domain name with them, the renewal is as default set to automatic renewal.

As others have said, 1and1 do not register instantly, so it can be up to 24-48 hours before they register the name you buy.

Actually they were the main reason that I took the step to become a domain reseller myself. Because of the problems with them, I wanted to have more control over my own domain names.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=568363

One good thing with 1and1 is, that they first charge the payment after 1-2 weeks after you have bought the domain names. So you dont have to have the money when you order/buy, just be sure you have them around 7-14 days after.

Sorry to hear about your problem ru1041, it seems the domain know is owned by pfizer.com, do you know how they got it?

MrWesley · 05-17-2009, 09:47 AM

I've only heard good things about 1and1.. maybe that could because of there 1 year of free hosting offer ..not sure if they still offer that.

But the guy lost his domain because of a trademark dispute.

Ralph2472 · 05-20-2009, 04:01 AM

I too have had problems with 1 & 1. I tried to renew some of my names and found I couldn't access my account. I rang their help line. They could not even locate my account; and when I asked about the specific domain names, I was told that they were registered to other people and not me. As they were not High value, and were due for renewal; I did not take the matter further. I have not used them since; and will never use them again after the comments I have just read here.
Thanks to all at NP
Regards
Ralph.

03-19-2009, 04:16 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
ru1041 New Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3	1&1 internet stole my domain? I bought the domain pfizer.us at 1&1 the other night. About 2:00 the following day I get an email saying that they needed to verify my account for security reasons( I have had an account there for several months). So I fax them my ID. Later I look at my account and it says the domain pfizer.us is not available. Then I get a letter from them saying that the domain was not available and they would give me a free domain. I checked and the domain had been registered that morning by someone else. I dont know what the domain might be worth, but I think at the least they are liable for not purchasing my domain when I paid for it, or possibly something far worse like putting my order on hold so that someone else could buy the domain. Any comments would be appreciated.

03-19-2009, 04:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
HappyDay NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 525	I think you can do nothing against 1and1.Such things happens often. The site is already new registered and for sale again. Check domaintools to find out more about the new owner. Last edited by HappyDay; 03-19-2009 at 04:39 PM.

03-19-2009, 05:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Deathstarr NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Springville Al Posts: 714 Follow @HostReach	Dont Use 1and1 they do this often. __________________ ExcelledHost - Linux Shared and Resellers Web Hosting. cPanel/WHM with Softaculous. Unlimited Features with all Plans.

03-19-2009, 09:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
domainerx NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 209	Wouldn't that name have a trademark problem? Couldn't Pfizer just take the domain if someone reports it to them? __________________ Cloud Mortgage Rates

03-20-2009, 09:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
nastyrunner NamePros Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 145	They stole money from me too! They renewed my domains without notifying me every that they were going to expire, and then the same day i mail them, and they dont give me my money back. In return they blame me for everything saying that I should know when my domains are expiring and react accordingly. 1and1 sucks! __________________ Selling:i-dubai.net , i-reserved.com miniturf.com Using:urdubai.com,Dorms Forum,iBummed Blog

03-20-2009, 05:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
HappyDay NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 525	Yes, I think so. To avoid trademark issues with this name its clever to use the forename in the url also for a personal website. More info about Pfizer and the long history can be found at Wikipedia.

03-20-2009, 10:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
HappyDay NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 525	I personally would be very carefully with such statements about an etablisment organisation like 1and1 and thinking more about Trademark violation its better to not own a pfizer.tld Last edited by HappyDay; 03-20-2009 at 10:55 AM.

03-20-2009, 04:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
HappyDay NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 525	I didn´t know there where around 30 minutes between both registrations. But like I said before such things happens. Its disagreeable to hear that you had such a negative experience but you have learned a lesson. Several years ago I had a similar experience with the registration of my 1. site (took 3 days) and I have learned from this. Today I use a Domain registration robot and can register quickly. Last edited by HappyDay; 03-20-2009 at 04:24 PM.

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03-22-2009, 11:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
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EGS NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 989	1&1 has a horrible reputation for both domain registration and web hosting. Also, as a word of advice, stick to domain registrars for domain registration and web hosting companies for web hosting. I would highly recommend the registrar TierraNet (Tierra.net) - they are the best registrar. I've tried all of the leading ones over the years, including but not limited to, eNom, NameCheap, GoDaddy, DomainSite, Moniker, MyDomain, and RegisterFly, and none compare to TierraNet. TierraNet has superior pricing, security, and customer support, all bundled in one awesome registrar. Check them out! __________________ Green rep is always appreciated. :) Listen to my Playlist REGISTER DOMAINS WITH EWEB DOMAINS - WE ACCEPT BOTH PAYPAL & ALERTPAY Game Monarch Company Blog - MMORPG Accounts

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Maurizio1230 NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 447	DO NOT USE 1and1. I have bad experience for hosting and domain many years ago.

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jdenwar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas, United States Posts: 1,279 Follow @jdenwar	DONOT USE 1and1 They are the worse among all.. Last year I lost my two CVCV.com and a keyword domain when transferring to GD. they deleted the domain and someone snaps that up.... 1and1 is a company established by two kids and they sucks.. -jd __________________ BARGAIN-FARE.com is FOR SALE at $xx only BARGAIN-FARE.com is FOR SALE at $xx only

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testingyou Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Copenhagen - Denmark Posts: 1,789	1and1 is actually a very big company with 40% ownership of Sedo. Not that I defend them, I really hate their control panel and the lack of bulk changes, but they are not a small company. Nastyrunner, they do have a point with the renewal. In 1and1 you have to actively change the renewal from automatic to manual if you dont want 1and1 to renew the domain names automaticly. Default when you register a domain name with them, the renewal is as default set to automatic renewal. As others have said, 1and1 do not register instantly, so it can be up to 24-48 hours before they register the name you buy. Actually they were the main reason that I took the step to become a domain reseller myself. Because of the problems with them, I wanted to have more control over my own domain names. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=568363 One good thing with 1and1 is, that they first charge the payment after 1-2 weeks after you have bought the domain names. So you dont have to have the money when you order/buy, just be sure you have them around 7-14 days after. Sorry to hear about your problem ru1041, it seems the domain know is owned by pfizer.com, do you know how they got it? __________________ World Food Programme - No Children Should Go To Bed Hungry. It's simple, it's not rocket science, not political, not cultural, not religion, not complicated... It's this simple!. I have decided that I will donate 10% of what I make from selling domain names in 2012 to the above programme.

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05-17-2009, 09:47 AM	#20 (permalink)
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05-20-2009, 04:01 AM	#21 (permalink)
Ralph2472 NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2009 Location: Barnsley, United Kingdom Posts: 665	1 & 1 I too have had problems with 1 & 1. I tried to renew some of my names and found I couldn't access my account. I rang their help line. They could not even locate my account; and when I asked about the specific domain names, I was told that they were registered to other people and not me. As they were not High value, and were due for renewal; I did not take the matter further. I have not used them since; and will never use them again after the comments I have just read here. Thanks to all at NP Regards Ralph.