SCAM from eliteinvestment.net

visar007 · 11-10-2008, 01:48 PM

So i have received an offer from clotier@eliteinvestment.net for one of my domains. I have sent my price and i have received this email

1200. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/461239.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Here is my response

Hello

If you want my domain you can make yourself the appraisal. I will low my domain price from 1200 to 1000$ (so with 200$ you can make the appraisal in any company you want plus drink a coffe from me)

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/532200-scam-from-eliteinvestment-net.html

Regards

Ehehehee

omnia · 11-10-2008, 02:11 PM

I assume they agreed, especially with a free coffee on offer.....lol

bmugford · 11-10-2008, 02:13 PM

These scammers are just lazy. I mean come on - update the scam website and email text already. You can spot these from a mile away.

-REECE- · 11-10-2008, 02:14 PM

Haha, great job visar007! Sending you some rep for that excellent reply to the scammer

visar007 · 11-10-2008, 02:30 PM

Thnx www.LLLL.com

Bmugford they don't have time tu update the scam website because they are busy (cmon sending and replay 10 000 emails per hour is not an easy job)

Spade · 11-10-2008, 02:38 PM

This is a very common and well documented Scam. Good eyes for spotting it.

Paijo · 11-11-2008, 06:22 AM

Yeagh...

I also got same e-mail alike this one (from Clotier).
I said to him...

" Sorry, I think I just dreaming and seen an angel in my slept. In my dreaming, Clotier was an angel, but in my real world, he is an evil".

BigSotong.com · 11-20-2008, 09:53 AM

i too got every excited when I received such email, offering to pay USD3,000 for a .net name I reg few days ago. But, after some thinking, it just does not make sense? They insist that I conduct a appraisal for my name, promising to pay more if the appraisal valued my name higher. They even have the chick to ask for 10% discount from the appraised price if it is higher then their initial offer.

I am a very easy going person and since they are so interested in my name, I offer to sell the name for USD10 (my cost is USD7), which after that, they stop writing to me.

So, i think the scam is about getting people to sign up to them for name appraisal.

j0hnyl · 11-20-2008, 10:15 AM

I've gotten emails from them as well. I never bothered to reply, but if they send any more in the future I think I'll write them back just to waste their time.

Ergo · 11-21-2008, 05:44 PM

I've got email from them too. Their offer looked too unbelievable, so I googled them and got here back to NamePros

I can't understand what they want to scam me? I offered them a considerable discount. And what will they do to scam me?

gjvblack · 11-22-2008, 11:12 AM

The website is hosted on http://www.007sites.com/ and can be spotted so easily, no real company with thousands of dollars would have a free hosted site like that (after all, they do have money dont they?). Good thing you avoided this...

Soofi · 11-22-2008, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by visar007

Here is my response

Hello

If you want my domain you can make yourself the appraisal. I will low my domain price from 1200 to 1000$ (so with 200$ you can make the appraisal in any company you want plus drink a coffe from me)

Regards

Ehehehee

haha FREE COFFEE!! oh i'll tak eyou up on that offer

Dean · 11-22-2008, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by visar007

So i have received an offer from clotier@eliteinvestment.net for one of my domains. I have sent my price and i have received this email

1200. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/461239.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Here is my response

Hello

If you want my domain you can make yourself the appraisal. I will low my domain price from 1200 to 1000$ (so with 200$ you can make the appraisal in any company you want plus drink a coffe from me)

Regards

Ehehehee

Nice reply, I think its a bit more professional then my one when I got their scam email http://www.namepros.com/3073086-post23.html

Soofi · 11-23-2008, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by d3N

Nice reply, I think its a bit more professional then my one when I got their scam email http://www.namepros.com/3073086-post23.html

I like the goat offer as well, I have 6 goats.. interested?? lol
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200

exsedo · 11-28-2008, 03:08 PM

Eliteinvestment.net is registered by DOMAINSBYPROXY INC of Arizona. Their website Domainsbyproxy.com has a complaints form on it. This guy has a contact address in a tiny village in the U.K. which is probably false. He has scraped an article from a goverment website in Connecticut as his site content. This latest domain was started in Aug 08 on domainsbyproxy so there will be plenty more from him in the near future. Rumour has it that he has been a member of NPros and has been banned a few times, if this is true then someone here knows who he is.

oveber · 11-30-2008, 09:49 PM

I got this to days ago sendt to my private email address. Wonder how they got my mail address since there is whois protection one the name they asked for.

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online. Please let us know your price.

We are in real estate business. Domain name industry is a new direction
for us. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Gene Vaksman
Vice President
Elite Network

weblord · 11-30-2008, 09:51 PM

he/she won't show up for a cup of coffee.

visar007 · 12-01-2008, 08:42 AM

lol

jdenwar · 12-01-2008, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by d3N

Nice reply, I think its a bit more professional then my one when I got their scam email http://www.namepros.com/3073086-post23.html

Nice Reply....

tekz999 · 12-01-2008, 08:29 PM

I just got his email, he seems to be targetting users from ebay also!

weblord · 12-01-2008, 08:35 PM

too bad they can't be closed down, even if you report them
http://www.lookstoogoodtobetrue.com/complaint.aspx

jdenwar · 12-03-2008, 12:04 AM

I got a similar scam from eliteinvestment!!
I replied "the price is 30 million dollar and you cannot afford it!"

I am pretty much sure that the scammer is a namepros member. I have a separate email for namepros and I haven't advertise my email anywhere(not in whois too).

I think it is very easy for Namepros team to catch this scammer because he have used "Send an message to jdenwar" link from my profile to send me a message.

Hope to hear from NP staff about this scammer!

Cheers!
-James

glabnet · 12-10-2008, 01:02 AM

Just received eMail from norcross@eliteinvestment.net:

Code:

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online. Please let us know your price.

We are in real estate business. Domain name industry is a new direction 
for us. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
William Norcross
Vice President
Elite Network
========================================================
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information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

My reply was:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200

My price is $1,000,000 (1,000,000 USD).

visar007 · 12-14-2008, 04:26 PM

Any response from them?

Originally Posted by glabnet

Just received eMail from norcross@eliteinvestment.net:

Code:

Hello,

Your domain name has been found online. Please let us know your price.

We are in real estate business. Domain name industry is a new direction 
for us. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
William Norcross
Vice President
Elite Network
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

My reply was:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=532200

My price is $1,000,000 (1,000,000 USD).

tomah · 02-22-2009, 02:33 PM

Got this email yesterday from 'Murphy' at eliteinvestment.net

"I'm interested in your domain in the subject line.

Investing in domains is a profitable business. We are in real estate
business. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit.

Looking forward to do business with you."

Smelled of a scam!

11-10-2008, 01:48 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
visar007 NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 77	SCAM from eliteinvestment.net So i have received an offer from clotier@eliteinvestment.net for one of my domains. I have sent my price and i have received this email 1200. Ok. Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://webtalk.007sites.com/Archive/461239.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. Here is my response Hello If you want my domain you can make yourself the appraisal. I will low my domain price from 1200 to 1000$ (so with 200$ you can make the appraisal in any company you want plus drink a coffe from me) ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/532200-scam-from-eliteinvestment-net.html Regards Ehehehee

11-10-2008, 02:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
omnia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Land of Oz Posts: 1,679	I assume they agreed, especially with a free coffee on offer.....lol __________________ Books at BookCove Music News Vote at Daily Poll

11-10-2008, 02:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
bmugford www.DataCube.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,819	These scammers are just lazy. I mean come on - update the scam website and email text already. You can spot these from a mile away. __________________ DataCube.com - Buy and Sell Premium Domains Add Me on Facebook

11-10-2008, 02:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Spade NameBio.com Founder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 7,855	This is a very common and well documented Scam. Good eyes for spotting it. __________________ Read my Blog! NameBio.com - Search The Domain Sales Index Buying LLLL.com's ending in "CA"

11-11-2008, 06:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Paijo NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 62	Yeagh... I also got same e-mail alike this one (from Clotier). I said to him... " Sorry, I think I just dreaming and seen an angel in my slept. In my dreaming, Clotier was an angel, but in my real world, he is an evil". __________________ Regards. P.A.I.J.O Cell Phone Lookup

11-10-2008, 02:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
-REECE- NamePros Expert Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 8,996	Haha, great job visar007! Sending you some rep for that excellent reply to the scammer

11-10-2008, 02:30 PM	THREAD STARTER #5 (permalink)
visar007 NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 77	Thnx www.LLLL.com Bmugford they don't have time tu update the scam website because they are busy (cmon sending and replay 10 000 emails per hour is not an easy job)

11-20-2008, 09:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
BigSotong.com NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 207	i too got every excited when I received such email, offering to pay USD3,000 for a .net name I reg few days ago. But, after some thinking, it just does not make sense? They insist that I conduct a appraisal for my name, promising to pay more if the appraisal valued my name higher. They even have the chick to ask for 10% discount from the appraised price if it is higher then their initial offer. I am a very easy going person and since they are so interested in my name, I offer to sell the name for USD10 (my cost is USD7), which after that, they stop writing to me. So, i think the scam is about getting people to sign up to them for name appraisal.

11-20-2008, 10:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
j0hnyl NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 372	I've gotten emails from them as well. I never bothered to reply, but if they send any more in the future I think I'll write them back just to waste their time.

11-21-2008, 05:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ergo NameDato.com Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Jackson's Whole Posts: 3,296	I've got email from them too. Their offer looked too unbelievable, so I googled them and got here back to NamePros I can't understand what they want to scam me? I offered them a considerable discount. And what will they do to scam me? __________________ calling cards \| japanese used cars exporters \| japanese used cars

11-22-2008, 11:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
gjvblack NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 276	The website is hosted on http://www.007sites.com/ and can be spotted so easily, no real company with thousands of dollars would have a free hosted site like that (after all, they do have money dont they?). Good thing you avoided this... __________________ Online Security & Web Design

11-28-2008, 03:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
exsedo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: England Posts: 2,670	Eliteinvestment.net is registered by DOMAINSBYPROXY INC of Arizona. Their website Domainsbyproxy.com has a complaints form on it. This guy has a contact address in a tiny village in the U.K. which is probably false. He has scraped an article from a goverment website in Connecticut as his site content. This latest domain was started in Aug 08 on domainsbyproxy so there will be plenty more from him in the near future. Rumour has it that he has been a member of NPros and has been banned a few times, if this is true then someone here knows who he is. __________________ Unenforceable Loan ?-Desktop 3D Printer- Top 20 Coupons

11-30-2008, 09:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
oveber NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 764	I got this to days ago sendt to my private email address. Wonder how they got my mail address since there is whois protection one the name they asked for. Hello, Your domain name has been found online. Please let us know your price. We are in real estate business. Domain name industry is a new direction for us. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Gene Vaksman Vice President Elite Network __________________ http://www.langtransport.com

11-30-2008, 09:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,785	he/she won't show up for a cup of coffee. __________________ Nabaza.com - Amaia

12-01-2008, 08:42 AM	THREAD STARTER #18 (permalink)
visar007 NamePros Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 77	lol

12-01-2008, 08:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
tekz999 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,797	I just got his email, he seems to be targetting users from ebay also! __________________ ★ 500, 1k, 3k, 5k, 10k SEO Backlinks + FULL REPORT ★

12-01-2008, 08:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,785	too bad they can't be closed down, even if you report them http://www.lookstoogoodtobetrue.com/complaint.aspx __________________ Nabaza.com - Amaia

12-03-2008, 12:04 AM	#22 (permalink)
jdenwar Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas, United States Posts: 1,279 Follow @jdenwar	I got a similar scam from eliteinvestment!! I replied "the price is 30 million dollar and you cannot afford it!" I am pretty much sure that the scammer is a namepros member. I have a separate email for namepros and I haven't advertise my email anywhere(not in whois too). I think it is very easy for Namepros team to catch this scammer because he have used "Send an message to jdenwar" link from my profile to send me a message. Hope to hear from NP staff about this scammer! Cheers! -James __________________ BARGAIN-FARE.com is FOR SALE at $xx only BARGAIN-FARE.com is FOR SALE at $xx only

02-22-2009, 02:33 PM	#25 (permalink)
tomah New Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 20	Got this email yesterday from 'Murphy' at eliteinvestment.net "I'm interested in your domain in the subject line. Investing in domains is a profitable business. We are in real estate business. Sometimes we buy, sometimes we resell for making a profit. Looking forward to do business with you." Smelled of a scam!

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