Can everyone support this cause and send paypal an email with the following:

dannbkk · 02-20-2008, 11:49 PM

Can everyone support this cause and send paypal an email with the following, I have already done so:

Subject: "Domain Name sellers left helpless with Chargebacks, Please change your Policy!"

Description: There are hundreds of scams taken place lately with Domain name sellers being left helpless.

The fraudalent acts is when the buyer does a charge back hours or minutes after they have recieved the name.

Please help us Domainers with continuing to do business with paypal but by providing a new policy.

Warm Regards,

Your Name

weblord · 02-21-2008, 12:01 AM

what's the email address to send to?
i have a plan to create an online petition but i need to know the details i'll use the software
http://www.petitiononline.com/

here's a good petition (template) see all the details on it:
http://www.petitiononline.com/adore24/petition.html

Originally Posted by dannbkk

Can everyone support this cause and send paypal an email with the following, I have already done so:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/435179-can-everyone-support-cause-send-paypal.html

Subject: "Domain Name sellers left helpless with Chargebacks, Please change your Policy!"

Description: There are hundreds of scams taken place lately with Domain name sellers being left helpless.

The fraudalent acts is when the buyer does a charge back hours or minutes after they have recieved the name.

Please help us Domainers with continuing to do business with paypal but by providing a new policy.

Warm Regards,

Your Name

Red Rock · 02-21-2008, 12:08 AM

Yeah,
Definitely count me in!
Find every PayPal Dept address you can,
I'll copy it to every one of them!

L8R,
Red Rock!

dannbkk · 02-21-2008, 01:22 AM

You must log in to your paypal account first and click contact us at the bottom > than > Help By Email > Disputes > Credit Card Chargeback Status or Respond Status of Buyer Dispute or claim.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179

Once there enter the following;

Subject: "Domain Name sellers left helpless with Chargebacks, Please change your Policy!"

Description: There are hundreds of scams taken place lately with Domain name sellers being left helpless.

The fraudalent acts is when the buyer does a charge back hours or minutes after they have recieved the name.

Please help us Domainers with continuing to do business with paypal but by providing a new policy.

Warm Regards,

Your Name

richrf · 02-21-2008, 06:28 AM

Hi,

I had already contacted PayPal and am doing it again. They are a cesspool of scam artists, and they, like Ebay, support the practice because it makes so much money for them. I opened up a new account with them, using their own credit card, and if I am ever scammed again, I am going to refuse to pay it. The problem with the last scam, was that I allowed them to pull it out of my bank account. No more.

Rich

italiandragon · 02-21-2008, 06:46 AM

waste of time, just use something else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

richrf · 02-21-2008, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

waste of time, just use something else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I very much disagree. If I thought it was a waste of time, I wouldn't do it. On the contrary, this type of comment weighs very heavily in large corporations, for many reasons, especially if it associated with illegal activities. Ebay is already under lots of scrutiny for illegal sales, and it will get worse for them over time. Any comments such as these, will make their position even more uncomfortable. Effects may not be immediate, but it does have an effect over time. Buyers should not allow themselves to be scammed by companies. Writing definitely does work.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179

Rich

GreenGambler · 02-21-2008, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by dannbkk

You must log in to your paypal account first and click contact us at the bottom > than > Help By Email > Disputes > Credit Card Chargeback Status or Respond Status of Buyer Dispute or claim.

Submitted. I don't think it's a waste of time, heck it only took like 30 seconds.

I choose "Seller Protection" rather "Respond Status of Buyer Dispute or Claim", I thought it was more relevant since I have no current disputes.

dannbkk · 02-21-2008, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

waste of time, just use something else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im surprised you said that lorenzo? Cmon. It is not a waste of time at all, You obviously havn't been scammed, yet? But hey" neither have I but this can only help people that have, so we can have trust and continue to have trustworthy buyers and sellers. 70% of buyers and sellers here on NP use Paypal.

italiandragon · 02-21-2008, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by dannbkk

Im surprised you said that lorenzo? Cmon. It is not a waste of time at all, You obviously havn't been scammed, yet? But hey" neither have I but this can only help people that have, so we can have trust and continue to have trustworthy buyers and sellers. 70% of buyers and sellers here on NP use Paypal.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179
No, I`d love PayPal to change but it seems THEY DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE.

I personally complained about these problems several times on the phone with them last August and nothing has changed.

dannbkk · 02-21-2008, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by italiandragon

No, I`d love PayPal to change but it seems THEY DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179

I personally complained about these problems several times on the phone with them last August and nothing has changed.

Phone complaints dont get anywhere, they need individual email complaints from people.

Think about it it's like a Protest if we all email them with the same email!

Red Rock · 02-22-2008, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by richrf

Hi,

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179
I had already contacted PayPal and am doing it again. They are a cesspool of scam artists, and they, like Ebay, support the practice because it makes so much money for them. I opened up a new account with them, using their own credit card, and if I am ever scammed again, I am going to refuse to pay it. The problem with the last scam, was that I allowed them to pull it out of my bank account. No more.

Rich

Rich,
that sounds great, but only one problem.
PayPal Buyer Credit and PayPal are seperate entitys entirely.
When you get paid, the $$$ is deposited into your PayPal account.
Not to your PayPal Buyer Credit.
Unfortunately they got us by the nads!
So, upon payment into your account, you'd have to spend it immediately with a PayPal debit card.
Because if you just transferred it to your actual bank account, that takes almost a week....and by that time, the scammer has probably already hit his credit card co. for the chargeback/withdrawal.
I still have faith!
Domains are getting more and more popular, everyday.
Go to E-bay, they have anywhere between 2000-5000 domains listed all the time, now.
Unfortunately, PayPal is the preferred method.
I think with more campaigns like this, they will get their head out of their A$$ and make a change!
Great Thread!
I will submit my letter to PayPal today.
Good Luck, to us all.
Thx,
Red Rock!

Easydoms · 02-22-2008, 08:53 AM

Count me in as well, I just hope it can make them sit up and take notice for once.

GreenGambler · 02-22-2008, 03:50 PM

I just want to be clear. I don't want PayPal to go away, I just want more protection.

What's really bad is if you get paid. You transfer the money to your bank account, which takes 3-4 days. While you are waiting for the transfer the scammer reverses the funds, PayPal takes them directly out of your bank account, no 3-4 day wait.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179

Now because your initial deposit transfer was not in your bank yet, PayPal took funds that were not there causing your bank account to go negative. What little money was in my account was already to be used for my other bills that are automatically paid from my account. The money for those bills wasn't there anymore, insufficient fees start building up at $45 a pop and before I knew it my checking account was $350 negative..

I had that happen once.. It sucked soo back.. I Finally got PayPal to work with my bank and reverse all the fees but it took about 2 months.

dezinerite · 05-25-2008, 06:30 PM

What's the latest on this, did Paypal reply? I also support this policy. But if they're just going to ignore these messages I don't know if I should send them one.

mozzeratti · 06-07-2008, 08:22 AM

I am really surprised that there are not more NP members flocking to be on board.
Considering that in the selling "Rules", it is stated that PayPal is the "preferred payment method", you'd think more people would be concerned.

I have personally never been scammed, but having been on eBay since 1999, (where PayPal is ALMOST compulsory, I read of these scams DAILY).
I am not waiting to be stung before taking some action.

-and Yes, I agree...THIS IS NOT A WASTE OF TIME
...A petition has far greater impact than random complaint phone-calls.
Even if you see no immediate changes, ENOUGH voices can help lay the groundwork.
Just like when people are trying to get a message across to their leaders in government.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179

I am on board with this idea.
Weblord (post#2): Did you put together the petition?
.

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dannbkk NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 549	Can everyone support this cause and send paypal an email with the following: Can everyone support this cause and send paypal an email with the following, I have already done so: Subject: "Domain Name sellers left helpless with Chargebacks, Please change your Policy!" Description: There are hundreds of scams taken place lately with Domain name sellers being left helpless. The fraudalent acts is when the buyer does a charge back hours or minutes after they have recieved the name. Please help us Domainers with continuing to do business with paypal but by providing a new policy. Warm Regards, Your Name __________________ SEO Services SEO Book Internet Marketer Hostgator Promo Codes SEO Plugin Make Money Coupon Codes

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dannbkk NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 549	You must log in to your paypal account first and click contact us at the bottom > than > Help By Email > Disputes > Credit Card Chargeback Status or Respond Status of Buyer Dispute or claim. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179 Once there enter the following; Subject: "Domain Name sellers left helpless with Chargebacks, Please change your Policy!" Description: There are hundreds of scams taken place lately with Domain name sellers being left helpless. The fraudalent acts is when the buyer does a charge back hours or minutes after they have recieved the name. Please help us Domainers with continuing to do business with paypal but by providing a new policy. Warm Regards, Your Name __________________ SEO Services SEO Book Internet Marketer Hostgator Promo Codes SEO Plugin Make Money Coupon Codes Last edited by dannbkk; 02-21-2008 at 02:47 AM.

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richrf NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 434	Hi, I had already contacted PayPal and am doing it again. They are a cesspool of scam artists, and they, like Ebay, support the practice because it makes so much money for them. I opened up a new account with them, using their own credit card, and if I am ever scammed again, I am going to refuse to pay it. The problem with the last scam, was that I allowed them to pull it out of my bank account. No more. Rich __________________ LINKS.COM For SALE Contact Links.com

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italiandragon NamePros Expert Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 6,390	waste of time, just use something else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ www.MMCP.com www.decretoingiuntivo.net www.ipotecalegale.info www.swishersweetslittlecigars.com

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Easydoms Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: golfered.com Posts: 1,109	Count me in as well, I just hope it can make them sit up and take notice for once. __________________ Debt Solutions and free advice blog 2010 Ryder Cup tickets

02-21-2008, 12:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Red Rock Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 997	Yeah, Definitely count me in! Find every PayPal Dept address you can, I'll copy it to every one of them! L8R, Red Rock!

02-22-2008, 03:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
GreenGambler Visit -- NameManor.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri--USA Posts: 3,458 Follow @ArtlicoiusArt	I just want to be clear. I don't want PayPal to go away, I just want more protection. What's really bad is if you get paid. You transfer the money to your bank account, which takes 3-4 days. While you are waiting for the transfer the scammer reverses the funds, PayPal takes them directly out of your bank account, no 3-4 day wait. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179 Now because your initial deposit transfer was not in your bank yet, PayPal took funds that were not there causing your bank account to go negative. What little money was in my account was already to be used for my other bills that are automatically paid from my account. The money for those bills wasn't there anymore, insufficient fees start building up at $45 a pop and before I knew it my checking account was $350 negative.. I had that happen once.. It sucked soo back.. I Finally got PayPal to work with my bank and reverse all the fees but it took about 2 months. __________________ Mewv.com is Currently for Sale Original Abstract Art Abstract Artwork For Sale

05-25-2008, 06:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
dezinerite www.bpdir.com Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,055 Follow @bpdir	What's the latest on this, did Paypal reply? I also support this policy. But if they're just going to ignore these messages I don't know if I should send them one. __________________ Free Directory Since 2007! \| Software Directory

06-07-2008, 08:22 AM	#16 (permalink)
mozzeratti Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,070	I am really surprised that there are not more NP members flocking to be on board. Considering that in the selling "Rules", it is stated that PayPal is the "preferred payment method", you'd think more people would be concerned. I have personally never been scammed, but having been on eBay since 1999, (where PayPal is ALMOST compulsory, I read of these scams DAILY). I am not waiting to be stung before taking some action. -and Yes, I agree...THIS IS NOT A WASTE OF TIME ...A petition has far greater impact than random complaint phone-calls. Even if you see no immediate changes, ENOUGH voices can help lay the groundwork. Just like when people are trying to get a message across to their leaders in government. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=435179 I am on board with this idea. Weblord (post#2): Did you put together the petition? . __________________ █ SALE ! >> CashSolutionsnet █ couponlecom >> Techeroo*com

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