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| New Member | For SEO and search engine purposes, let me restate that for the benefit of the community at large. DomainSecondhand.com is a scam DomainSecondhand.com is a scam DomainSecondhand.com is a scam "Human hand appraisals" William Quigley (fake name) is a domain scammer Quigley@Toughguy.net is a scammer email address Shirley M. Leurquin is a scam name 509-271-0875 is a scam phone number This is a scam page: http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/750328.htm http://whois.domaintools.com/domainsecondhand.com Domain name: domainsecondhand.com? Registrant Contact: Perfect Privacy LLC http://perfectprivacy.com 1.4042608491 Fax: +1.4042608493 303 Peachtree Center Ave Atlanta, GA 30303 http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...ghguy-net.html http://snipurl.com/1ufn0 If you have been scammed by DomainSecondhand.com, dispute your changes to your credit card company immediately. Check the back of your card for the phone number. It usually takes 48 hours to process. Report it to your credit buereu if you gave them your credit card number! If you have been SCAMMED BY DomainSecondhand.com, PLEASE contact their current payment processor at PLIMUS and let them know. wecare@plimus.com sales@plimus.com Also, contact their hosting company Abuse@corp.web.com THIS ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN SCAMMING PEOPLE FOR YEARS AND IT IS A BIG OPERATION. THIS IS NOT JUST ONE GUY. PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS INTO OTHER FORUMS. TOGETHER WE CAN SHUT THESE GUYS DOWN. |
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| NamePros Member | I recently was scammed into using DomainSecondHand.com's services. After emailing them for a refund I asked them a bit about the company and who does the appraisals. They gave me almost no information except to say the company was located in Ireland and Romania. After pushing for more information I received this email: Your site http://lintoninvestments.com/ looks fake. It has no links, no contact info, etc. We will check it through BBB. You stole the name from Linton, Larry C. - Linton Investment Enterprises. We will contact Larry for more information about you and your company. Google serach for "linton investments llc + morgan linton" shows no information. Now it's clear that we became victim of friendly charge back scheme. It was a learning experince for us. We asked you to send correspondence between you and the person who tricked you to use our services. You did not do that. It proves that you are a scammer who order commercial service for free. Your email will be black listed and you'll be reported. It's hard to believe that president of investment company can be tricked via email. We may spread information about "naive" president all over the Internet. Who will do business with such unprofessional person with small IQ? Or probably, you are not so naive and you've sent us a fake story to get a refund. We will start our own investigation on you and your practices. Your name will be listed in Google and other serach engines soon. Other merchants should be aware of your "online" practices. All yor future spam will be reported immediately. Sincerely, Shirley M. Leurquin Customer Support Pretty scary if you ask me. I responded letting them know that this was my company with a registered business address and phone number, registered in the state of Delaware. I don't have to hid my business...why do they? Now looks like they want to deface my business name online? Because I was scammed by them? |
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| Domains my Dominion | It's probably the same people behind this: http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...mains-com.html (Allfordomains.com) Common trait: the (free) toughguy E-mail addresses. Dispute all charges to your credit card, hopefully their merchant account will get terminated if there are enough complaints
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| First Time Poster! | This &*## is using my name for his nefarious schemes. He is likely the guy who sent me an email about buying a name I control which. I didn't answer that email. I don't know if he was irritated about that, or if he just liked my name. It IS My name. I haven't found another like it in years of posting my last name searching for genealogy links. The name is stolenS Shirley M Leurquin is NOT a scammer. . |
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| New Member | I almost got scammed before I found this Post. After purchasing a new domain name, I was approached by email below Hello, We are interested in domainname.com Your domain was for sale. Please let me know your price to sell. Our company is working on network protection and intrusin detection projects. So Internet names is just a part of our investment strategy. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Andrew Hegedus Vice President PHT Systems After waiting a bit and replying to it. Here is the next email that almost got me Hello, x USD. Ok. Do you sell domain with a web site or just name? If just name it's ok. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/740681.htm Just check this posting. If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. Because I was careful, I asked him to appraise it, using the company he was comfortable with and here is what I what I received. Sellers always provide buyers with valuations. This is a common practice. I don't trust $14 services like that GoDaddy's valuation service. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service. I researched several companies and here are the results: I considered www.Afternic.com, but now it's clear their service is not reliable enough. Just read this: http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm "Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future." Another complaint http://www.out-law.com/page-1630 I was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com but it's very expensive - $200/hour. Many experienced sellers suggested me www.DomainSecondHand.com as a trustworth manual service. Fortunately, it's not so expensive. This post is a little bit long, but I thought it would help. |
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| NamePros Regular | Months ago I received the same (or very similar) e-mails as eryscx. I did not fall for it or get burned in any way, but it just galls me to think how many unsuspecting people actually do. This website/associates/affiliates should be exposed for what they are. .
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| New Member | I received the same email, but different name. The email was from phrllc@phreaker.net from a guy named George Sterling: Hello, We are interested in XXXXXXXX.com Please let us know the your price and we will consider it. Our company is investing in High Tech and IT projects. Now the domain market is very attractive for us, since every business in the Internet requires a domain. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, George Sterling President PHR LLC Can you accept 6,000 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog:http://domainblog.007sites.com/Archive/419573.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. info@domainsecondhand.com It ends up being about you getting an appraisal from easynamesale.com |
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| There is no spoon | Subject: DoorsBand.com (sent 7/23/08) From: "bonllc@bonbon.net" <bonllc@bonbon.net> Hello, Your domain for sale has been found online. ÿ Please let us know the your price. ÿ We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain business is very attractive. Looking forward to do business with you. ÿ Regards, Michael Henzell CEO BON Domains LLC ---------------------------------------- (my reply) This domain has been listed on Afternic for $10,000 USD. Sales are best conducted through a third part or escrow account. ------------------------------------------- 10,000 USD. Ok. Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation. Just read this blog http://accuratedomains.blogspot.com/ So I'm not going to accept this fraudulent service. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/Archive/419583.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. -------------------------------------- A big thanks to this post and thread. Found it right away when I did a search for the 007sites blog. I smelled a rat on a the first email (President of a company named after his own email pop3 provider). Let's keep this thread alive so more of this content gets out there and anyone else who searches is likely to run into ths on Google. |
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Hello,So let me also restate for SE's: this is a scam. As tazzzz7777 said, it's about you getting an appraisal from easynamesale.com. I must admit still though that it's a pretty clever scam if you ask me. The letters do not promote easynamesale directly. I was suspicious, but still answered to the 1st letter and this is what followed (exactly the same wording again as above). Can you accept 7,000 USD?So I did a Google search and here I am now, newbie member ![]() Thanks again for posters above, thanks guys! This thread converted me to a member. Cheers, Lembit | |
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| NamePros Member | ----- Original Message ---- From: "bonllc@bonbon.net" <bonllc@bonbon.net> Hello, Your domain for sale has been found online. ÿ Please let us know the your price. ÿ We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain business is very attractive. Looking forward to do business with you. ÿ Regards, Michael Henzell CEO BON Domains LLC ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- To: bonllc@bonbon.net Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:54 AM Thank you for your interest. All activity regarding the sale of this domain is to be handled by Sedo. http://www.sedo.com I appreciate your time. ------------------------------------------------------- From: "bonllc@bonbon.net" <bonllc@bonbon.net> Can you accept 7,000 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation. Just read this blog http://accuratedomains.blogspot.com/ So I'm not going to accept this fraudulent service. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/Archive/419583.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. ------------------------------------------------------ A few minutes ago, I responded to: bonllc@bonbon.net, offering no more than the following link. http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and...is-a-scam.html
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| First Time Poster! | Thank you for this thread. I just receive the same email this morning. Whew! Thought someone is really interested in my domain *lol* --- Hello, Your domain for sale has been found online. ÿ Please let us know your price. ÿ We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain business is very attractive. Looking forward to do business with you. ÿ Regards, George Ogilvie CEO Ogilvie Technologies --- the email address was ogilvie@toughguy.net tsk tsk tsk |
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Replied the same way as siouxee, sent the link to this thread. Cheers, Lembit | |
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| NamePros Regular | Quote:
Conversation just died after a few emails.
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| NamePros Member | Same Scam Rolls On... Email Exchange In Order... Hello, Your domain for sale has been found online. ÿ Please let us know your price. ÿ We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain business is very attractive. Looking forward to do business with you. ÿ Regards, George Ogilvie CEO Ogilvie Technologies __________________________________________________ ________________ George, > Thanks for your interest in _______.com. I have it listed for sale on > Sedo for $500 US: url > > Mark > __________________________________________________ _______________ 500. Ok. Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/Archive/419685.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. __________________________________________________ ______________ Just the domain, no web site. > > If you want to purchase a valuation at your expense, go ahead. My > experience > has been that these valuations are a waste of time, particularly for lower > priced domains like this one. > > My price is $500, if you like the price you can purchase through SEDO and > use their escrow service. > > Thanks, > Mark __________________________________________________ _______________ It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers. Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks. Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated vlauations. So manual valuation is a "must" too. I read the following information about appraisals at: http://domainblog.007sites.com/Archive/419685.htm Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you. __________________________________________________ _______________
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| NamePros Member | LOL I have got EXACTLY the same emails. The only difference was - I have listed another price - all other parts was EXACTLY the same (word to word). dam it - I have planned to get nice bike after selling that domain. ![]() I hate this world
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| NamePros Legend | and a whole lot of threads about this http://www.namepros.com/search.php?searchid=2510640 about 13 threads. |
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| NamePros Member | I have just received a similar email too, searched for the domain it came from and came to this forum. Thanks for the info guys - good to know we are a community which helps each other when these despicable acts occur. Email I received:- subject Offer for ???.info (sent 09/26/2008) memo Hello, Your domain name has been found online. Please let us know your price. We make money on selling and buying names and sites. Now the domain business is very attractive. Looking forward to do business with you. Regards, Jacob Davidson Vice President Elite Investment Edit/Delete Message
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| New Member | Today, I received the following email with the same scam. I suspected that it was a scam right away, then looked to the forum for confirmation. Its awesome to a have a resource to which to turn for help, advice, and to contribute. THANK YOU ALL!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ paulson@theonlinebrokerage.com Sorry for delay with answer. Our family was celebrating newborn child of my sister. Can you accept 5,000 USD? Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name? Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary. Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies. Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers: http://domainblog.007sites.com/587412.htm If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount. After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations. What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. |
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| NamePros Member | I WAS going to use them, till I looked up their domain on these forums! Thanks so much for the heads up, I think more people should be alerted about these criminals.
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