Domain Name Appraisal Scam

svplaya14 · 03-23-2006, 11:22 AM

FROM: Opera Engineering
SUBJECT: heator.com (sent 03-23-06)
RETURN-PATH: <anestad@operaen.com>

Hello,

What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?

I'm very interested in this name.

Did you get offers from other people already?

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Paul Anestad Ph.D.
CEO
Opera Engineering

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????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/179789-domain-name-appraisal-scam.html

Was actually pretty excited at first, the guy seemed serious. But like any domain seller I decided to look him up, which led me to many forums and sites that show he is a scam. Lammmmeeee.

W-M · 03-23-2006, 10:48 PM

Yes I have had a few emails like this one in the past DON'T do business with him.

RobinB123 · 03-29-2006, 06:48 AM

Yes, was just about to post this too...almost got scammed, though I got suspicious when he seemed adamant on buying my domain, but insisted on getting it appraised. Mine was from someone called "Robert Johansen" though (johansen@operaen.com). He also points to a 'forum' where he's 'asked' about appraisal services:
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/62049.htm

SimpleDomaining · 03-30-2006, 11:04 AM

here what he want:
all he will ask is to appraise it at certain place, which he will tell you

. so you will pay some money for your domain appraising to his company

and after it he will desapear and will start to send this letter to others.

Foxon · 03-31-2006, 08:35 AM

hi got one 2day 2 i was quite excited the money he offered was good but a friend told me to look out as it was a scam it was off the same company but the guy was knutsen@operaen.com so i am annoyed
but owell

Gex · 03-31-2006, 06:32 PM

Thanks for the info. Not that I'd ever have ended up paying a cent for an appraisal if it got to that stage, but it certainly saves me the time of having to answer such an email!

fandie · 04-05-2006, 04:35 PM

Hi

I got a email from this prat also

i have emailed him the link to have a look so if he is reading this

You are a total Wan*** and i await your email back c*nt

And have a nice day also

:-)

Foxon · 04-05-2006, 05:11 PM

glad you didnt fall for it like i nearly did

tm · 04-06-2006, 02:41 AM

i got that.. offered me about $100 grand for mobmonkey.com

OxDomains · 04-06-2006, 10:02 AM

Date: 4/6/2006 18:02:49 +0400
From: "Opera Engineering" <blindheim@operaen.com>
To: <admin@oxdomains.com>
Subject: Re: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (sent 04-05-06) All headers
950 USD + fees. Ok.

Do you have an appraisal certificate?

Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your
name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit
in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market
value of your domain.

Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal
company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals.
I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies
in a forum

http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/68035.htm

Juck check this posting.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.
I also hope you can give me 10% - 15%discount of the appraised value because
I need a room to make profit.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or
wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.
----- Original Message -----
From: "OxDomains Admin - NY USA" <admin@oxdomains.com>
To: "Opera Engineering" <blindheim@operaen.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: $$$$$$$$$$$ (sent 04-05-06)

> We will accept $950 USD and Buyer pays escrow fees.
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Did you get offers from other people already?
> >
> > What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?
> >
> > I'm very interested in this name.
> >
> > I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and
> databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789
> my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional
> income.
> >
> > Looking forward to do business with you.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Thomas Blindheim Ph.D.
> > CEO
> > Opera Engineering
> >
> >
>
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Pulsar132 · 04-07-2006, 02:57 PM

I got a email from them 2day.

Quote:

Disponent IT Solutions [hansen@disponent.com]

from them and it was Paul.

PuckishOpus · 04-08-2006, 04:01 AM

Yup, I got one yesterday from Operaen and it was Dr. Blindheim wanting to buy killersquirrels.us. I kept sending him skeptical communications and thought if he'd take the time to strike up a conversation then maybe I was just being too suspicious. Well nuts, I went ahead and searched alldomains and ended up here. Hey, good news is I just joined this forum and I really like it!
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789

Oh, here's my last response to Dr. Blindheim:
"Hey, this fantastic, I can't wait to get your offer after the appraisal. Check out some of my other names for SALE."
Most sincerely,
Jeff

Of course SALE links to one of the NamePros threads on the scam. I knew this would be fun.

nirav.dave · 04-08-2006, 07:15 AM

Was lucky as i had already read about it a few days back in a forum. I tried talking to him and exchanged a few emails. I am posting it here so all the people who are not aware can go through this and save themself from this scam.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789

Sender : "Disponent IT Solutions" <hansen@disponent.com>
Name : Paul Hansen Ph.D.
CEO
Disponent IT Solutions

****FIRST EMAIL !!!!****

Hello,

Did you get offers from other people already?

What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?

I'm very interested in this name.

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and
databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main
business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Paul Hansen Ph.D.
CEO
Disponent IT Solutions

****SECOND EMAIL !!!!****

How about 7,000 USD? Ok?

Do you have an appraisal certificate?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789

Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.

Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I trust.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value because I need a room to make profit.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/69047.htm

How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

****THIRD EMAIL !!!!****

You speak about automated appraisal service. They are inaccurate. But there are several professional manual services.

I thought about Afternic, but found their service inaccurate and automated.

Moreover, here is the link about complaints to Afternic at
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

So Afternic.com is NOT acceptable.

Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
"Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust
auto-generated appraisals."

The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They are just collecting money using their well-known names.

I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot
accept appraisal from each and every site.

To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several
experts recommended me AllDomains' appraisal service -
http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and
non-expensive manual service.

I also trust the manual appraisal service from http://www.DomainMart.com but
it's very expensive - $200/hour. This service was also recommended by many
people but I thought it was too expensive. But if you can afford
DomainMart.com's fee it's ok with me.

All the best NP Members.

SimpleDomaining · 04-08-2006, 10:19 AM

he he he

))) i told ya

Jules1 · 04-10-2006, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by gugush

he he he

))) i told ya

Yep got a message from the scammer too. He's using some bulk emailing software and sending from dialup in Russia apparently.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789

Hello,

Did you get offers from other people already?

What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?

I'm very interested in this name.

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Paul Hansen Ph.D.
CEO
DIT Solutions

bluffho · 04-13-2006, 09:34 AM

Amazing - the guy is actually pretty persistent. He offered me $4500 for my domain. I'm tickling my curiosity and seeing how far he will take this (and how much time he'll actually invest in the contact). After receiving all the same above mentioned emails and replies, and after sending him links to forums on his own scam, he said to go ahead and use the appraisal service of my choice. Now mind you all, I'm really only getting the appraisal done now to see how far this guy will take it. I'm at the point where I want to know the end of the novel, the result of the game:

----------------------------
From: "Hansen"
To: "BluffHo"
Subject: Re: CASAMAN.COM
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:37:31 +0400

Ok. Use AccurateDomains.com then.

----- Original Message -----
From: BluffHo
To: Hansen
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: CASAMAN.COM

I concur, we have heard only poor reviews of Afternic. Our services of choice would still be www.accuratedomains.com. If there are no objections, we can order for completion within 36 hours. I believe that the 24-hour services skip on too much and colleagues have found them to not be as reliable. We will not be using allfordomains.com and hope you do not either:

http://www.dnforum.com/f202/allfordo...ad-135667.html

Please advise.

I'll keep you all posted!

Randall · 04-13-2006, 09:40 AM

The punk tried the same stunt with me. I led him on for a few days trying to ID the guy but had no luck....

Hello,

Did you get offers from other people already?

What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject
line?

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789
I'm very interested in this name.

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and
databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain
names is
not my main business. Just another way to invest money and
make
additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Paul Hansen Ph.D.
CEO
DST Solutions Norway

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sb225 · 04-13-2006, 09:50 AM

thanks for posting as i dont know domian appraisals and domain sellers are also scams
from last few days i am hearing about godaddy for raising money for domain resellers

webset32 · 04-14-2006, 11:33 AM

the same for me... he offered $5000 for my domain... and i recognise the appraisal scam...

SeamusBurkill · 04-14-2006, 04:56 PM

Its a good idea i guess...

Not for anyone else tho

The V · 04-19-2006, 11:57 AM

Hi

This scammer is such a pathetic loser, i almost feel sorry for him. Here are some snippets of his emails to me; the last one in particular is a cracker!

[I]11/4/06[/I]

Hello,

Did you get offers from other people already?

What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?

I'm very interested in this name.

I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Paul Hansen Ph.D.
CEO
DIT Engineering

How about 9,500 USD? Ok?

Did you use escrow.com before? I think this is the safest place for domain/money transfer.

Do you have an appraisal certificate?

Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.

Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I know and trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/69047.htm

Juck check this posting.

If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value.

After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.

How do you prefer to get paid: www.escrow.com, www.PayPal.com check or wire?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789

Looking forward to your reply.

Sedo is a good broker. Unfortunately , Sedo is not acceptable as an
appraiser because your names are listed with them and they are not
independent. They are interested in earning 10% commission on every sale. I
need appraisals from a company which is not interested in
selling your domains.

I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I
cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept
appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust.

12/4/06
I don't know why. I'm not the owner of the forum. I think this is one company. May eb I'm wrong.

I earn enough money and run my own company so I don't have any interest in appraisal companies.

I thought about Afternic, but found their service inaccurate and automated.

Moreover, here is the link about complaints to Afternic at
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

So Afternic.com is NOT acceptable.

Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
"Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789
if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust
auto-generated appraisals."

The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They are just collecting money using their well-known names.

I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot
accept appraisal from each and every site.

To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several
experts recommended me AllDomains' appraisal service -
http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and
non-expensive manual service.

I also trust the manual appraisal service from http://www.DomainMart.com but
it's very expensive - $200/hour. This service was also recommended by many
people but I thought it was too expensive. But if you can afford
DomainMart.com's fee it's ok with me.

13/4/06
Thanks. I also asked about other domain appraisers. GreatDomains.com,
NetworkSolution and .DomainMart.com were recommended as trusted sources. I
may accept appraisals from these sources too.

I will obtain an appraisal from one of those sources myself. But I will not
send this certificate to you, because you may use this appraisal to promote
your name or sell it to somebody else. Two independent appraisals will give
us a better feeling of what your name is really worth.

15/4/06
I've already bought opt-in lists from
http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com site to promote your
domains.
I invested about $250 in these lists. Unfortunately, I cannot list your
names with brokers and auctions because I'm not the owner. You can list
your names with brokers. We should list names with at least three-four
brokers. The more exposure the better. Moreover, using different selling
strategies we can achieve better results.

Just email me your auction links and I'll use them in my email campaign.
Looks like many buyers prefer to make deals through brokers because it's
more secure.

17/4/06
I've already invested $250 in promotion (opt-in lists from http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com ) and don't want to take additional risks for some time. I also paid for a second appraisal. You don't need too invest money in promotion so it will be reasonable to give me a time to find a good buyer. As soon as I find a buyer I'll buy your name myself. I hope our cooperation will make us good money. Thank you for understanding.

18/4/06
Please don't make me laugh. I run my own company and earn enough money. So I'm not interested to work as a sale agent of appraisal company.

But now I see that you have problems with selling and it's a bad sign. I don't want to lose my money. That's why I offered you to find a buyer.

If I'd work as an agent you'd never receiuve a response from me. I'm a honest businessman and I want to work wth you. I don't care about losers who don't kniw how to make money. If they think I'm a sale agent, that's ok.

Looks like a bogus joke. I should investigate it.

Our small software company is based in Norway

Norway
P.B. 305
7301 Orkanger

19/4/06
Who told you my friend, it was such a successful software company? I wrote about small software company. We are not so successful as Microsoft or Oracle.

I sent you the street address. Why do you need PO box? Your email server was shut down and you want to send us a regular mail :-)? Just send it to our street addres.

I also want to know about you my french friend, as much as possible.

Your real address. Your sexual orienation. Hope you are not a gay like many men in France. I also must know if you are a real owner. I hope you are not trying to sell a hijacked name? I read about it on the Internet.

You also have a very strange name for a person living in France. I thought you were from Mexico or Spain. Do you have an immigration card?

I think your next answer will be via regular mail :-)

The V · 04-20-2006, 02:41 AM

this is what i received this morning. come on guys - there must be something we could do about this. these scammers seem to be laughing all the way to the bank, and at our faces along the way!

From: hansen@disponent.com

I don't think so.

Your real name: Stupid Sucker Jr.
Your company name: Bogus Opera Ltd..

----- Original Message -----
From: XXXXXX
To: hansen@disponent.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: materank.us (sent 04/11/06)

my real name is: Thomas Blindheim
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789

the name of my company is: Opera Engineering

satisfied?

veryboredme · 04-25-2006, 01:20 AM

Wow, I got my first appraisal scam email today:

Quote:

From: wiborg@bonbon.net

Hello,

Please send me price for your domain.

IWe are very interested in this name.

Did you get offers from other people already?

Our company develops client-server systems (Delphi / Interbase), so investing in domain names is not my main business.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Anthony Wiborg
President
Back Office Engineering Norway

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hookie123 · 04-30-2006, 06:31 AM

This guy is unreal - eventhough I directed him to a thread of someone else reporting his scam - he still wanted to continue to try to scam .......!!!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789

Message from herosuki@operaen.com reads :

Hello,

Please send me price for your domain.

We are very interested in this name.

Did you get offers from other people already?

Our company develops client-server systems (Delphi / Interbase), so investing in domain names is not my main business.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Best regards,
Masafumi Herosuki, Ph. D.
President
Opera Solutions Ltd.

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siradio · 04-30-2006, 08:39 PM

Yup, this stain on the underwear of society tried this crap with me too - pretty much word for word the exact same thing he has said to everyone else.

03-23-2006, 11:22 AM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
svplaya14 NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31	Domain Name Appraisal Scam FROM: Opera Engineering SUBJECT: heator.com (sent 03-23-06) RETURN-PATH: <anestad@operaen.com> Hello, What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line? I'm very interested in this name. Did you get offers from other people already? I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income. Looking forward to do business with you. Best regards, Paul Anestad Ph.D. CEO Opera Engineering ================================================== ========================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ========================= ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/179789-domain-name-appraisal-scam.html Was actually pretty excited at first, the guy seemed serious. But like any domain seller I decided to look him up, which led me to many forums and sites that show he is a scam. Lammmmeeee. Last edited by svplaya14; 03-23-2006 at 11:29 AM.

03-23-2006, 10:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
W-M NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 207	Yes I have had a few emails like this one in the past DON'T do business with him. __________________ Daily Domainer Newsletter - FREE daily domainer secrets, domainer tips and domain appraisals!

03-30-2006, 11:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,639 Follow @simpledomaining	here what he want: all he will ask is to appraise it at certain place, which he will tell you . so you will pay some money for your domain appraising to his company and after it he will desapear and will start to send this letter to others. __________________ naturalskincareproducts.com

04-05-2006, 05:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Foxon NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 97	glad you didnt fall for it like i nearly did __________________ Please go to www.FXNHosting.com Cheap reliable hosts that wont leave thanks

04-06-2006, 02:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
tm Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: on a oil rig just off Ireland Posts: 1,408	i got that.. offered me about $100 grand for mobmonkey.com __________________ You design in photoshop, I code into valid XHTML/CSS. Professional PSD, PNG or HTML to tableless XHTML/CSS designs. For more info, send me a PM.

Domain Name Appraisal Scam

got this today...

Here is what i got... yesterday. 3 emails.

Appraisal Scam - continues!

Appraisal Scam - it gets even better!

Domain Name Scam

03-29-2006, 06:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
RobinB123 NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 71	Yes, was just about to post this too...almost got scammed, though I got suspicious when he seemed adamant on buying my domain, but insisted on getting it appraised. Mine was from someone called "Robert Johansen" though (johansen@operaen.com). He also points to a 'forum' where he's 'asked' about appraisal services: http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/62049.htm

03-31-2006, 08:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
Foxon NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 97	hi got one 2day 2 i was quite excited the money he offered was good but a friend told me to look out as it was a scam it was off the same company but the guy was knutsen@operaen.com so i am annoyed but owell

03-31-2006, 06:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gex NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 34	Thanks for the info. Not that I'd ever have ended up paying a cent for an appraisal if it got to that stage, but it certainly saves me the time of having to answer such an email!

04-05-2006, 04:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
fandie Account Closed Join Date: May 2004 Location: uk Posts: 1,773	Hi I got a email from this prat also i have emailed him the link to have a look so if he is reading this You are a total Wan*** and i await your email back c*nt And have a nice day also :-)

04-06-2006, 10:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
OxDomains Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 2,481	got this today... Date: 4/6/2006 18:02:49 +0400 From: "Opera Engineering" <blindheim@operaen.com> To: <admin@oxdomains.com> Subject: Re: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (sent 04-05-06) All headers 950 USD + fees. Ok. Do you have an appraisal certificate? Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain. Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/68035.htm Juck check this posting. If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15%discount of the appraised value because I need a room to make profit. After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations. How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or wire? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. ----- Original Message ----- From: "OxDomains Admin - NY USA" <admin@oxdomains.com> To: "Opera Engineering" <blindheim@operaen.com> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: Re: $$$$$$$$$$$ (sent 04-05-06) > We will accept $950 USD and Buyer pays escrow fees. > > > > > Hello, > > > > Did you get offers from other people already? > > > > What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line? > > > > I'm very interested in this name. > > > > I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and > databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 > my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional > income. > > > > Looking forward to do business with you. > > > > Best regards, > > Thomas Blindheim Ph.D. > > CEO > > Opera Engineering > > > > > ================================================== ========================== > > NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged > > information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any > > viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by > > unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > > message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message > > and deleting it from your computer. > > > > > ================================================== ========================= > > > > > > http://www.oxdomains.com __________________ FHAMortgage.us.com is for Sale

04-08-2006, 04:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
PuckishOpus New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 11	Yup, I got one yesterday from Operaen and it was Dr. Blindheim wanting to buy killersquirrels.us. I kept sending him skeptical communications and thought if he'd take the time to strike up a conversation then maybe I was just being too suspicious. Well nuts, I went ahead and searched alldomains and ended up here. Hey, good news is I just joined this forum and I really like it! ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 Oh, here's my last response to Dr. Blindheim: "Hey, this fantastic, I can't wait to get your offer after the appraisal. Check out some of my other names for SALE." Most sincerely, Jeff Of course SALE links to one of the NamePros threads on the scam. I knew this would be fun.

04-08-2006, 07:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
nirav.dave NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: www.meramaal.com Posts: 644	Here is what i got... yesterday. 3 emails. Was lucky as i had already read about it a few days back in a forum. I tried talking to him and exchanged a few emails. I am posting it here so all the people who are not aware can go through this and save themself from this scam. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 Sender : "Disponent IT Solutions" <hansen@disponent.com> Name : Paul Hansen Ph.D. CEO Disponent IT Solutions **FIRST EMAIL !!!! Hello, Did you get offers from other people already? What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line? I'm very interested in this name. I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income. Looking forward to do business with you. Best regards, Paul Hansen Ph.D. CEO Disponent IT Solutions SECOND EMAIL !!!! How about 7,000 USD? Ok? Do you have an appraisal certificate? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain. Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I trust. If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value because I need a room to make profit. After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/69047.htm How do you prefer to get paid: www.PayPal.com, www.escrow.com, check or wire? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. Looking forward to your reply. THIRD EMAIL !!!! You speak about automated appraisal service. They are inaccurate. But there are several professional manual services. I thought about Afternic, but found their service inaccurate and automated. Moreover, here is the link about complaints to Afternic at http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm "Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future." So Afternic.com is NOT acceptable. Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply: "Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust auto-generated appraisals." The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They are just collecting money using their well-known names. I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several experts recommended me AllDomains' appraisal service - http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and non-expensive manual service. I also trust the manual appraisal service from http://www.DomainMart.com but it's very expensive - $200/hour. This service was also recommended by many people but I thought it was too expensive. But if you can afford DomainMart.com's fee it's ok with me. All the best NP Members. __________________ Free India Classifieds - Meramaal.com - Sell your property, cars, bikes, mobiles and lot more in India! Web Design India - PSD to XHTML, Web Design, Wordpress Services - Capsicum Mediaworks LLP**

04-08-2006, 10:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
SimpleDomaining Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 1,639 Follow @simpledomaining	he he he ))) i told ya __________________ naturalskincareproducts.com

04-13-2006, 09:34 AM	#16 (permalink)
bluffho First Time Poster! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1	Amazing - the guy is actually pretty persistent. He offered me $4500 for my domain. I'm tickling my curiosity and seeing how far he will take this (and how much time he'll actually invest in the contact). After receiving all the same above mentioned emails and replies, and after sending him links to forums on his own scam, he said to go ahead and use the appraisal service of my choice. Now mind you all, I'm really only getting the appraisal done now to see how far this guy will take it. I'm at the point where I want to know the end of the novel, the result of the game: ---------------------------- From: "Hansen" To: "BluffHo" Subject: Re: CASAMAN.COM Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:37:31 +0400 Ok. Use AccurateDomains.com then. ----- Original Message ----- From: BluffHo To: Hansen Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:22 AM Subject: Re: CASAMAN.COM I concur, we have heard only poor reviews of Afternic. Our services of choice would still be www.accuratedomains.com. If there are no objections, we can order for completion within 36 hours. I believe that the 24-hour services skip on too much and colleagues have found them to not be as reliable. We will not be using allfordomains.com and hope you do not either: http://www.dnforum.com/f202/allfordo...ad-135667.html Please advise. I'll keep you all posted!

04-13-2006, 09:40 AM	#17 (permalink)
Randall New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	The punk tried the same stunt with me. I led him on for a few days trying to ID the guy but had no luck.... Hello, Did you get offers from other people already? What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line? ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 I'm very interested in this name. I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income. Looking forward to do business with you. Best regards, Paul Hansen Ph.D. CEO DST Solutions Norway ================================================== ============ == == == == ====== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== ============ ==

04-13-2006, 09:50 AM	#18 (permalink)
sb225 Account Closed Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,451	thanks for posting as i dont know domian appraisals and domain sellers are also scams from last few days i am hearing about godaddy for raising money for domain resellers

04-14-2006, 11:33 AM	#19 (permalink)
webset32 New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5	the same for me... he offered $5000 for my domain... and i recognise the appraisal scam...

04-14-2006, 04:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
SeamusBurkill NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 236	Its a good idea i guess... Not for anyone else tho __________________ The #1 Place For MySpace Themes/Codes/Cursors/Generators!

04-19-2006, 11:57 AM	#21 (permalink)
The V New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11	Appraisal Scam - continues! Hi This scammer is such a pathetic loser, i almost feel sorry for him. Here are some snippets of his emails to me; the last one in particular is a cracker! [I]11/4/06[/I] Hello, Did you get offers from other people already? What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line? I'm very interested in this name. I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income. Looking forward to do business with you. Best regards, Paul Hansen Ph.D. CEO DIT Engineering How about 9,500 USD? Ok? Did you use escrow.com before? I think this is the safest place for domain/money transfer. Do you have an appraisal certificate? Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain. Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I know and trust. To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/69047.htm Juck check this posting. If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value. After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations. How do you prefer to get paid: www.escrow.com, www.PayPal.com check or wire? Hope we can come to an agreement fast. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 Looking forward to your reply. Sedo is a good broker. Unfortunately , Sedo is not acceptable as an appraiser because your names are listed with them and they are not independent. They are interested in earning 10% commission on every sale. I need appraisals from a company which is not interested in selling your domains. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust. 12/4/06 I don't know why. I'm not the owner of the forum. I think this is one company. May eb I'm wrong. I earn enough money and run my own company so I don't have any interest in appraisal companies. I thought about Afternic, but found their service inaccurate and automated. Moreover, here is the link about complaints to Afternic at http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm "Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future." So Afternic.com is NOT acceptable. Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply: "Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust auto-generated appraisals." The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They are just collecting money using their well-known names. I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several experts recommended me AllDomains' appraisal service - http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and non-expensive manual service. I also trust the manual appraisal service from http://www.DomainMart.com but it's very expensive - $200/hour. This service was also recommended by many people but I thought it was too expensive. But if you can afford DomainMart.com's fee it's ok with me. 13/4/06 Thanks. I also asked about other domain appraisers. GreatDomains.com, NetworkSolution and .DomainMart.com were recommended as trusted sources. I may accept appraisals from these sources too. I will obtain an appraisal from one of those sources myself. But I will not send this certificate to you, because you may use this appraisal to promote your name or sell it to somebody else. Two independent appraisals will give us a better feeling of what your name is really worth. 15/4/06 I've already bought opt-in lists from http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com site to promote your domains. I invested about $250 in these lists. Unfortunately, I cannot list your names with brokers and auctions because I'm not the owner. You can list your names with brokers. We should list names with at least three-four brokers. The more exposure the better. Moreover, using different selling strategies we can achieve better results. Just email me your auction links and I'll use them in my email campaign. Looks like many buyers prefer to make deals through brokers because it's more secure. 17/4/06 I've already invested $250 in promotion (opt-in lists from http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com ) and don't want to take additional risks for some time. I also paid for a second appraisal. You don't need too invest money in promotion so it will be reasonable to give me a time to find a good buyer. As soon as I find a buyer I'll buy your name myself. I hope our cooperation will make us good money. Thank you for understanding. 18/4/06 Please don't make me laugh. I run my own company and earn enough money. So I'm not interested to work as a sale agent of appraisal company. But now I see that you have problems with selling and it's a bad sign. I don't want to lose my money. That's why I offered you to find a buyer. If I'd work as an agent you'd never receiuve a response from me. I'm a honest businessman and I want to work wth you. I don't care about losers who don't kniw how to make money. If they think I'm a sale agent, that's ok. Looks like a bogus joke. I should investigate it. Our small software company is based in Norway Norway P.B. 305 7301 Orkanger 19/4/06 Who told you my friend, it was such a successful software company? I wrote about small software company. We are not so successful as Microsoft or Oracle. I sent you the street address. Why do you need PO box? Your email server was shut down and you want to send us a regular mail :-)? Just send it to our street addres. I also want to know about you my french friend, as much as possible. Your real address. Your sexual orienation. Hope you are not a gay like many men in France. I also must know if you are a real owner. I hope you are not trying to sell a hijacked name? I read about it on the Internet. You also have a very strange name for a person living in France. I thought you were from Mexico or Spain. Do you have an immigration card? I think your next answer will be via regular mail :-)

04-20-2006, 02:41 AM	#22 (permalink)
The V New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11	Appraisal Scam - it gets even better! this is what i received this morning. come on guys - there must be something we could do about this. these scammers seem to be laughing all the way to the bank, and at our faces along the way! From: hansen@disponent.com I don't think so. Your real name: Stupid Sucker Jr. Your company name: Bogus Opera Ltd.. ----- Original Message ----- From: XXXXXX To: hansen@disponent.com Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:05 PM Subject: Re: materank.us (sent 04/11/06) my real name is: Thomas Blindheim ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 the name of my company is: Opera Engineering satisfied?

04-30-2006, 06:31 AM	#24 (permalink)
hookie123 First Time Poster! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1	Domain Name Scam This guy is unreal - eventhough I directed him to a thread of someone else reporting his scam - he still wanted to continue to try to scam .......!!! ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=179789 Message from herosuki@operaen.com reads : Hello, Please send me price for your domain. We are very interested in this name. Did you get offers from other people already? Our company develops client-server systems (Delphi / Interbase), so investing in domain names is not my main business. Looking forward to do business with you. Best regards, Masafumi Herosuki, Ph. D. President Opera Solutions Ltd. ================================================== ========================== NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ================================================== =========================

04-30-2006, 08:39 PM	#25 (permalink)
siradio Online Broadcaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 515	Yup, this stain on the underwear of society tried this crap with me too - pretty much word for word the exact same thing he has said to everyone else.

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