i hate paypal

redhippo · 05-26-2005, 07:16 PM

its a losing game with paypal

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/the-break-room/93211-i-hate-paypal.html

my experience as seller and buyer....when i file a complain, or receive one

when i was a buyer and the seller did not deliver. paypal says this

"due to the nature of the transaction i.e. electronic.....even though you did not received the " product ...we have to release the money and they did and sided with the seller

recently as seller...where scripts and templates were downloaded
the buyers file a complaint that there was unauthorised use of their "paypal" account,...paypal refunded them due to the fact that the buyers did not signed a "received form" or tracking ID...so they sided with the buyers in this case!!

man.. this is a losing game. Paypal sucks! but is there any other options?

some advice would really help

vip-ip · 05-26-2005, 07:36 PM

There's an option, a really good one. It's called http://www.2checkout.com/, where you pay $50 and some $0.45 plus a % off of each order.

Another option: DON'T SELL $5 STUFF OR GET OVER OCCASIONAL F***-UPS LIKE THAT

:-) Hope that'd help ya

lol nothing personal

suppau · 05-26-2005, 07:38 PM

yeah...paypal really sucks. They can't accept my cc, waiting for approval for a very long time. Guess they don't need us anymore, since they have enough people using paypal already.

spy69 · 05-26-2005, 07:58 PM

Even though i use paypal because of its convience, paypal really sucks. I really recommend reading the forums at www.paypalsucks.com its really interesting. I would recommend firepay or some other service.

Spy

commes · 05-26-2005, 08:36 PM

wow, i've never heard of anyone thats had problems with paypal before

matrics · 05-28-2005, 09:54 AM

well, I have some experience with ikobo... it's ok IMO - the downside is that few people use it and not many are willing to sign up just for one transaction... their fees are also higher than paypal's. Other than that - no problems really, their live support has improved significantly IMO

Other than that, open up a merchant acct. if you're in the US (and if you can afford it)

dude · 05-28-2005, 08:04 PM

Theres a new site like paypal called ******** at ********.com it sounds ok so far but wont be released till this summer.

komp · 05-28-2005, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by redhippo

its a losing game with paypal

my experience as seller and buyer....when i file a complain, or receive one

when i was a buyer and the seller did not deliver. paypal says this

"due to the nature of the transaction i.e. electronic.....even though you did not received the " product ...we have to release the money and they did and sided with the seller
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=93211

recently as seller...where scripts and templates were downloaded
the buyers file a complaint that there was unauthorised use of their "paypal" account,...paypal refunded them due to the fact that the buyers did not signed a "received form" or tracking ID...so they sided with the buyers in this case!!

man.. this is a losing game. Paypal sucks! but is there any other options?

some advice would really help

Brought a ipod never recieved the seller closed his ebay account, So i made a complaint, But because it wasn't in the time limit to make a claim i had to wait, Finally when i did claim hed withdrawn all the funds so i lost out,
He had 100% 90 transactions rating, So brings it to light really It's not that hard to scam on ebay and paypal! Escrow 100% for domains and website transactions.

redhippo · 05-28-2005, 10:45 PM

and they had the cheek to ask me do a survey on "what do you think of paypal services..." immediately after that!

Killmur · 05-28-2005, 10:55 PM

Well I just got the Bussiness plan. I will only use it for hosting and the like. Hey if they gip me I will well "mumbles to self".

TheOwner · 05-29-2005, 10:41 PM

YEAH! I HEAR YA'!
I have lost two battles with them where the seller did not deliver,
and I currently have one going too, and I can almost bet I will lose.

1st= 675$
2nd=500$
3rd(going on right now)= 750$

^lost first two cases, and bet I will lose the 3rd. its not fair at all.
they make it SOOOOOOOO easy for these scam jobs.
The scammer didnt even reply to my emails nothing, didnt even make an attempt to send the item...so theyd have an excuse. no, not at all, nothing. no backup and paypal still lets them win.

I agree... I hate paypal too.

1901gt · 05-29-2005, 11:06 PM

I've been receiving my payments from my clients all using PayPal as well as transfering money from my PayPal account to my Bank account with lots of success. I'm doing web designing though. Thumbs up for PayPal. I've no complain at all. Seriously. PayPal the best so far I've ever come across. Maybe it depends on the individuals?

gamex · 05-30-2005, 12:25 AM

I have to admit, I have had 3-4 problems with customers using paypal, but compared to the number of sales I have gotten through paypal, the problems are like nothing. The problem with me is that people pay and I email the ifle to download. Sometimes the emails dont go through because their email doesnt exist. Other times buyers get the script, and then file a complaint to get their money back... I have no proof I sent the file! Paypal needs to find some way to provide protection to sellers who can email buyers the files or info they purchase; maybe paypal could send the email for us or something. I dunno, just my two cents.

1901gt · 05-30-2005, 01:02 AM

i think paypal suit best for those doing web design business

cos once the design is done, client will have to pay first before we can either send the whole .zip or .rar file to their email or create a link for them to download their file through our own server..

Scott · 05-30-2005, 02:48 AM

PayPal's great. Sure I've had a big chunk of chargeback's, but haven't lost anything really, couple of dollars here and there - made more with PayPal, than lost.

from me!

webworksfirst · 05-30-2005, 03:03 AM

i think that paypal is ok regarding the payments
glad i don't encounter that

05-26-2005, 07:16 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
redhippo NamePros Expert Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ANForum Posts: 5,218	i hate paypal its a losing game with paypal ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/the-break-room/93211-i-hate-paypal.html my experience as seller and buyer....when i file a complain, or receive one when i was a buyer and the seller did not deliver. paypal says this "due to the nature of the transaction i.e. electronic.....even though you did not received the " product ...we have to release the money and they did and sided with the seller recently as seller...where scripts and templates were downloaded the buyers file a complaint that there was unauthorised use of their "paypal" account,...paypal refunded them due to the fact that the buyers did not signed a "received form" or tracking ID...so they sided with the buyers in this case!! man.. this is a losing game. Paypal sucks! but is there any other options? some advice would really help __________________ \|www.vb-skins.com\|- Quality Premade Vbulletin skins for Your VB forum makeover \|www.Banjir.com\|-Free image hosting?[B]For Sale!\|AlphaScripts\|Money Generating Scripts FREE VB Skins

05-26-2005, 07:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
spy69 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ~USA~ Posts: 1,574	Even though i use paypal because of its convience, paypal really sucks. I really recommend reading the forums at www.paypalsucks.com its really interesting. I would recommend firepay or some other service. Spy __________________ Retired.

05-26-2005, 08:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
commes Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Regina, Sask, Canada Posts: 1,318	wow, i've never heard of anyone thats had problems with paypal before __________________ Friendly Birthday Party Games \| Elvis Presley: What You Didn't Know \| Study Trouble? \| The Dumbest of Dumb Laws! Styledboarder.com

05-28-2005, 09:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
matrics Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,672	well, I have some experience with ikobo... it's ok IMO - the downside is that few people use it and not many are willing to sign up just for one transaction... their fees are also higher than paypal's. Other than that - no problems really, their live support has improved significantly IMO Other than that, open up a merchant acct. if you're in the US (and if you can afford it) __________________ █ █ █ My T-shirt Addiction!!! █ █ █Hero's Gold

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05-26-2005, 07:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
vip-ip Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: root@localhost Posts: 4,011	There's an option, a really good one. It's called http://www.2checkout.com/, where you pay $50 and some $0.45 plus a % off of each order. Another option: DON'T SELL $5 STUFF OR GET OVER OCCASIONAL F***-UPS LIKE THAT :-) Hope that'd help ya lol nothing personal

05-26-2005, 07:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
suppau NamePros Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 258	yeah...paypal really sucks. They can't accept my cc, waiting for approval for a very long time. Guess they don't need us anymore, since they have enough people using paypal already.

05-28-2005, 08:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
dude Account Suspended Join Date: May 2003 Location: My House Posts: 684	Theres a new site like paypal called ****** at ******.com it sounds ok so far but wont be released till this summer.

05-28-2005, 10:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Killmur Account Closed Join Date: May 2005 Location: Skynet, USA Posts: 742	Well I just got the Bussiness plan. I will only use it for hosting and the like. Hey if they gip me I will well "mumbles to self".

05-29-2005, 10:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
TheOwner Mister Three Letter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Italy, NYC Posts: 513	YEAH! I HEAR YA'! I have lost two battles with them where the seller did not deliver, and I currently have one going too, and I can almost bet I will lose. 1st= 675$ 2nd=500$ 3rd(going on right now)= 750$ ^lost first two cases, and bet I will lose the 3rd. its not fair at all. they make it SOOOOOOOO easy for these scam jobs. The scammer didnt even reply to my emails nothing, didnt even make an attempt to send the item...so theyd have an excuse. no, not at all, nothing. no backup and paypal still lets them win. I agree... I hate paypal too. __________________ www.webrosys.com BCA.net \| 7O.net \| GKA.net \| YWK.net

05-29-2005, 11:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
1901gt Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,830 Follow @mdnoorhadi	I've been receiving my payments from my clients all using PayPal as well as transfering money from my PayPal account to my Bank account with lots of success. I'm doing web designing though. Thumbs up for PayPal. I've no complain at all. Seriously. PayPal the best so far I've ever come across. Maybe it depends on the individuals?

05-30-2005, 12:25 AM	#13 (permalink)
gamex NamePros Regular Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Student @ UConn Posts: 411	I have to admit, I have had 3-4 problems with customers using paypal, but compared to the number of sales I have gotten through paypal, the problems are like nothing. The problem with me is that people pay and I email the ifle to download. Sometimes the emails dont go through because their email doesnt exist. Other times buyers get the script, and then file a complaint to get their money back... I have no proof I sent the file! Paypal needs to find some way to provide protection to sellers who can email buyers the files or info they purchase; maybe paypal could send the email for us or something. I dunno, just my two cents. __________________ Joe

05-30-2005, 01:02 AM	#14 (permalink)
1901gt Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,830 Follow @mdnoorhadi	i think paypal suit best for those doing web design business cos once the design is done, client will have to pay first before we can either send the whole .zip or .rar file to their email or create a link for them to download their file through our own server..

05-30-2005, 02:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
Scott Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,541	PayPal's great. Sure I've had a big chunk of chargeback's, but haven't lost anything really, couple of dollars here and there - made more with PayPal, than lost. from me!

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