I think its good we're helping innocent people so they can live a better life. Although some of the democrats on this board tend to think that they would not sacrafice anything to help innocent people, and it would be alright if they were the way they were before.
Give it to China, see if they'll take it, then they'll give us cheap gas. LOL J/K. Seriously, we should just keep doing what is being done, what else can we do. A mistake was made, just have to try to fix it.
Oh yes DSL, actually I can see how this is helping the lives of them. With so many deaths Iraq is certinly getting less crowded. So for the people that survive their life is getting better. Except for fear of going outside or in big crowds.
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Yeah and as rich as all these cabinent members are they should try to help out and at least pay for part of themselves. I mean they have alot of money anyway.
Everyone, including myself, will be more civilized. And this is 1 thread, not 20 like it was before.
And nextelhost, they probabally should but how likly do you think it is that thats going to happen? There shouldn't be this problem, terrorists should just stop and let Iraq become a democrazy without any problems, how likly do you think that is to happen?
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hmm what do i think about Iraq? I think we should just leave the place alone since we dont need Iraq but only for their oil.. first i thought we should just nuke the place.. but now hearing the news saying that they just want us to leave, i think we should just do so i keep on trying to find Osama Bin Laden since he was our main target...
right..and Kerry was going to win the election based on people the media portrayed while ignoring those who opposed the medias view.
listen, if you interview 10 people for an opinion, get 10 answers, toss out 8 because you dont like an idea they state and only show the world the remaining two, you too can be a liberal media conglomerate.
Dwayne, how can you think that leaving is the best plan. Trust me thats not the idea for eigher Democrats or Republicans. Thats the 2nd dumbest thing you can do (Dumbest being just nuke it)
And Lee, what the hell did your post have anything to do with the thread? You might as well go make the exact same post in an apprasial thread. And with your attitude about the media, you might as well get your info from Fox cause it's all bull anyway (In your oppnion)
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umm..perhaps your not paying attn to the thread qwert? Firstly..try to be polite and not a smacktard... your only going to show your age by acting like that.
secondly, my post was in response to the posts stating that the Iraqi's dont want us there. My contention is that most of them do, it is the media that is only showing the negative terrorists and their supporters view points in not wanting us there for the benefit of getting their media outlets higher ratings.
I am willing to bet a minimum of 70% want us there. regardless if you like that fact or not.
I truly believe that the liberal left are the most racist people on the planet. It is they that have coined the terms "African Americans" (as an example) that continue to differentiate Blacks from whites in this country under the pretence that it is being "PC". All that does though is create a "second class" of Americans, think sub domain. In this same manner, they claim to only have concern for the Iraqi public in their hatred of this war when it is clear..VERY VERY CLEAR.. that it was in the best interest of EVERYONE BUT the liberal left media machine.
be respectful and I will give it back to you qwert.
hmm so news does lie, looks like terrorists show bomb the news stations, now i think we should just screw Iraq, lets just kill the innocent people, who cares.. we dont need them ;\
You know with all this anti-USA and anti0freedom stuff from most of the world, I kinda wish we would have left Hitler do his thing and just took out Japan. After the USA took out Japan we should have built up our military and told Hitler, do as you please just leave us out of it.
Wish I could find a time machine to go back and show the president how the rest of the world thinks of the USA after all the help we gave them.
The liberal left is half the country (or if you want to be picky about it 48%) But it was most likly a very popular idea when it all started, when they thought there were WMDs... Well I think thats been completly given up by everyone. Also if it's about liberation, why Iraq? Bush had a grudge against Saddam Huiseen, had Saddam Huiseen died or something before the war in Iraq I guarintee there wouldn't be a war in Iraq. There might (actually probabally) be a war, but most likly in Iran, you know, where there is a threat.
But I'll give up this position as soon as they find WMDs in Iraq and the terrorists stop.
Also about the revelance to the post above the first one, his post saying that the Iraquis wanted us to leave, true, I doubt that it's the most popular view of the Iraquis, but it still is a popular view. And on a major thing like this... Imagine this, China decides to come and invade USA and make it a dictatorship, what % of people do you think would want them to stay? I can guarintee you it's not 70%, probabally not even 1%. You may say that democrazy is better but thats not the oppnion of everyone there, espically since only certin regions will be voting in the election thats supposidly going to happen in Iraq. Now imagine that same thing here, the only people that can safly vote are people in New York and California, your oppnions? Now suppose everyone can vote safly, did you see what happened in Ukraine, that would most likly happen unless every pooling station was watched over buy soldiers. Now imagine that here, all the republican votes are destroyed, so how are your feelings there?
And just something I was wondering about, if the media is so screwed up, like you say, how do you know the information you're getting is correct?
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not true, the war..with or without wmd was not popular. they could have been cooking babies their and the left would have protested.
an interesting side note to this; the left also is what kept us out of WWII until pearl harbor.
mental reason is not one of their strong points.
i've posted dozens of times very pertinent information/reasons why the war in iraq should have happened earlier and justifications for it, but i will amuse you and post them again.. if you choose to ignore them, there i still nothing i can say to bring reasoning to this;
1) saddam was not living up to the terms of surrender from the first guld war by firing on coalition aircraft
2) he still had an active weapons program that violated his surrender.
3) he personally oversaw an assasination attempt on bush the 1st.
4) he was paying 15-25,000 us dollars to the families of those who became suicide bombers to help finance those blowing up school busses in israel.
5) the kurds in the north immediately after gulf war 1 were massacerd yet again by saddam
6) he was buying illegal items on the black market from (guess who!) france, germany and russia during the embrago
7) he was using the oil for food program to purchase products from (guess who) france and sell them oil at severly reduced cost under the direction of koffi ananns son, also a dignitary of the un
shall i go on? tell me, which of these above is not a reason to go in and remove him from baghdad?
The difference of us invading iraq and an example of china invading us is just that, an example. we are a free people , saddams people werent and would not have been EVER under his regime.
hat bother me about the left criticim of it, if clinton ould have done it, it ould have been ok.
