Be Polite!

armstrong · 11-13-2004, 04:25 PM

Guys, we're seriously considering a moratorium on political threads, seeing how it tends to divide instead of unite our community. But before we go that route, we'll first try strict implementation of this longtime rule:

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Be Polite! - Do not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws. Be polite! Debate and heated discussions are okay, however posting rude, attacking, insulting, profane and uncalled for comments are not allowed and may result in the permanent termination of your account.

I realize that there were many past posts that were blatantly impolite, and yet ignored or allowed to proceed. Moving forward, we shall impose official warnings for each infraction of the above rule, even if you are only replying to a previous insult. Earn enough warning points in a spcified period, and you might actually earn a ban.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/the-break-room/55444-be-polite.html

It doesn't matter how long you've been around, or how good/bad you were in the past. From this point on, we shall be implementing this rule strictly, and on everyone!

Some notes (I'll keep adding as they come up):
- Placing swear words in asterisks, such as a** or f***, would still be considered insulting if addressed to someone on NP. So saying "Hey so-and-so, you're an a**!" is not ok, but saying "So-and-so politician is an a**" is ok.

Shan · 11-13-2004, 04:32 PM

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Moratorium- A temporary ban or halt to a specific activity.

Everyone has their own opinions and not everyone agrees on a certain thing. I don't know why people get so caught up into politics and start flaming each other, but hopefully this new rule will help others learn to be more polite towards other people in here!

Sabre · 11-14-2004, 03:17 AM

Yeah HellFear you're an a**.......

wow dont you feel offended

nah still... i think its really stupid to get into brawls over politics....
or pretty much anything else for that matter.... its only a forum!

The only time ive ever insulted someone is when he screwed me for something... but apart from that kind of thing, i see no reason to insult someone... and even then .....

PolurNET · 11-14-2004, 03:24 AM

Politics can be annoying and vulgar, but that kind of behaviour should not appear here @ NP as well... good thing apollo pointed that out

Mark · 11-14-2004, 03:25 AM

Heh Heh .... Was wondering how far it would go before Some action would take place ~ We've all vented and bragged over the election(s) - Lets get back to Domains

Thx for the Stern reminder Armstrong ~~~

wwesn · 11-15-2004, 11:05 AM

I apologize for my behavoir. My only problem is that people like LeeRyder don't like if someone has an opinion that differs from their own and has to critizise and pull apart anything you say if they don't like it.

redhippo · 11-15-2004, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by wwesn

I apologize for my behavoir. My only problem is that people like LeeRyder don't like if someone has an opinion that differs from their own and has to critizise and pull apart anything you say if they don't like it.

haha...precisely why you and leeryder should keep cool

thats why we have mods and rules

armstrong · 11-15-2004, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by wwesn

I apologize for my behavoir. My only problem is that people like LeeRyder don't like if someone has an opinion that differs from their own and has to critizise and pull apart anything you say if they don't like it.

No apologies needed, as there's enough blame to go around, even on our side for not moderating the Break Room properly.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55444

Heated arguments are okay, as is criticism and "pulling apart anything you say." Just don't go insulting each other. Okay?

LeeRyder · 11-15-2004, 05:47 PM

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My only problem is that people like LeeRyder don't like if someone has an opinion that differs from their own

No wwe, I simply dont like people who have no clue what they are talking about repeating lies and garbage. If you can't have an independant thought, then kindly stow it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55444

As Sabre, he is much like you in his beliefs (hates Bush..etc) BUT he has valid reasons for it.. and they do not include Michael Moore's wet dreams. Sabre and I NEVER argue because I respect him becuase he has his OWN opinion, not one dictated to him by some liberal wingnut.

anthonyjdoe · 11-15-2004, 05:52 PM

Let's not step on free speech eh....just because some people get carried away doesn't mean you should kill a subject..politics and arguments go han din hand and alway swill..we just need to respect each others opinions....

Sabre · 11-16-2004, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by armstrong

No apologies needed, as there's enough blame to go around, even on our side for not moderating the Break Room properly.

Heated arguments are okay, as is criticism and "pulling apart anything you say." Just don't go insulting each other. Okay?

agreed

though if someone insults or hurts you, you should have the right to answer back to them.....
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55444

Bush..

... really

Ber|Art · 11-16-2004, 07:30 AM

@Amstrong, pitty that it has to be this way, one of the main reasons I like this forum is (still) that (most) people ARE friendly and polite, so it is sad to here you have to give out warning point and be a police officer. This is not what this forum deserved. Can we actually see if somebody has become warning points?

Thanks for letting us know

Sabre · 11-16-2004, 08:24 AM

that would be a really good idea to have that

i dont think there is a system in place for it at the moment...

Ber|Art · 11-16-2004, 08:27 AM

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i dont think there is a system in place for it at the moment...

Maybe use this one

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=65336

armstrong · 11-16-2004, 08:52 AM

Yes, the warning system has been in place for a while now. It isn't public info, so only the moderators and the members concerned see their points.

I'm saddened as well that we actually need such a system, but the truth of the matter is that it only takes a little push of the correct buttons, and everything we have worked for and nurtured here could dissolve into anarchy, which isn't a good environment for doing business.

Originally Posted by Sabre Hosting

though if someone insults or hurts you, you should have the right to answer back to them.....

In a ballgame, when someone hits you, and you hit back, do the referrees punish just the one who first threw a punch? No! In fact, both players get punished.

The same rule apply here - if someone insults you, just put on a brave face and smile

in the knowledge that your attacker will soon get warning points. And if he's angry enough to keep doing it, who knows maybe he'll even get kicked out. Pretty soon you won't need to hear his BS.

Sabre · 11-16-2004, 09:50 AM

true..... but then again.... sometimes you just HAVE to do it...

Terry · 11-17-2004, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by anthonyjdoe

Let's not step on free speech eh....just because some people get carried away doesn't mean you should kill a subject..politics and arguments go han din hand and alway swill..we just need to respect each others opinions....

Excuse me for forgetting the originator of the following quote:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55444

"With freedom come responsibility".

ECHO - be polite

bensontwenty · 11-17-2004, 05:53 AM

yup - politeness costs nothing. Sadly, even that seems to be expensive for some.

I welcome this move as Namepros was becoming a drag with the constant bickering and mudslinging by a select few.

Thanks for taking action Armstrong - much appreciated

anthonyjdoe · 11-17-2004, 11:14 AM

Yeah and with people taking freedom away comes Nazis

bensontwenty · 11-17-2004, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by anthonyjdoe

Let's not step on free speech eh......we just need to respect each others opinions....

I think the point is that people were not respecting other peoples opinions. Regardless of what the information was or which facts were produced to back it up - individuals were constantly hijacking political debate to mudlsing and be insulting if they disagreed with something rather than entering into serious political debate. People were even criticising other people's spelling for crying out loud - that was how stupid and inane the 'political debate' was getting. I for one am bored with it as I think I have made quite clear in repeated threads.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55444

I will always be the first person to defend freedom of speech but as the quote says, with freedom of speach comes great responsibility and sadly, there was not a lot of responsibility being shown here at Namepros.

Nazism is always trotted out when things like this are mentioned - sort of a soundbite now in issues like this but lets use another famous soundbite -

'Does Freedom of Speech allow you to shout 'FIRE' in a crowded cinema'

- no, because that is irresponsible and brings us full circle to the whole responsibility issue.

adam_uk · 11-19-2004, 04:01 PM

fu

jk

webm@ster · 11-19-2004, 04:07 PM

Mm, interesting.....

Qwert · 11-20-2004, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by anthonyjdoe

Yeah and with people taking freedom away comes Nazis

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55444
Yep...

And as far as offending people, this is a forum and 99% of people here don't know each other (some might, otherwise I would have said 100%) so I really don't care all that much what people here think of me.

The only posts that really bothered me were the completly useless made up phrases by DSL. And the 1 post by Lee that armstrong edited (before he edited it)

Sabre · 11-21-2004, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Qwert

Yep...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=55444

And as far as offending people, this is a forum and 99% of people here don't know each other (some might, otherwise I would have said 100%) so I really don't care all that much what people here think of me.

The only posts that really bothered me were the completly useless made up phrases by DSL. And the 1 post by Lee that armstrong edited (before he edited it)

you mean know them personally or know them because you speak to them and are friendly towards each other and talk,

becuase if you mean the latter, its probably about 75% lol....

Ber|Art · 11-21-2004, 04:06 AM

yeah, I do not know Sabre Hosting personaly, but I still know him form speaking to him at this Forum

and I think that one of the problems is, that people do not care, why byting at eachother? There is no point, dissagreing is normal but this can be done without cursing or figting IMO.

11-14-2004, 03:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sabre First Time Poster! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chelmsford, UK Posts: 11,311	Yeah HellFear you're an a**....... wow dont you feel offended nah still... i think its really stupid to get into brawls over politics.... or pretty much anything else for that matter.... its only a forum! The only time ive ever insulted someone is when he screwed me for something... but apart from that kind of thing, i see no reason to insult someone... and even then ..... __________________ Backpacker Insurance

11-14-2004, 03:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mark Hi :) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NC Posts: 9,567	Heh Heh .... Was wondering how far it would go before Some action would take place ~ We've all vented and bragged over the election(s) - Lets get back to Domains Thx for the Stern reminder Armstrong ~~~ __________________ When the man at the door yelled "Alcohol , Tobacco , and Firearms" .... I just assumed it was a delivery !

11-15-2004, 11:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
wwesn NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 351	I apologize for my behavoir. My only problem is that people like LeeRyder don't like if someone has an opinion that differs from their own and has to critizise and pull apart anything you say if they don't like it. __________________ ScriptInstallation.Ca - Forum Skins, Script Installation and Hosting

11-15-2004, 05:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
anthonyjdoe NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 403	Let's not step on free speech eh....just because some people get carried away doesn't mean you should kill a subject..politics and arguments go han din hand and alway swill..we just need to respect each others opinions.... __________________ HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE

11-16-2004, 07:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
Ber\|Art Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 1,519	@Amstrong, pitty that it has to be this way, one of the main reasons I like this forum is (still) that (most) people ARE friendly and polite, so it is sad to here you have to give out warning point and be a police officer. This is not what this forum deserved. Can we actually see if somebody has become warning points? Thanks for letting us know __________________ Berrie Pelser Ber\|Art Visual Design (http://hosting.ber-art.nl) DNOA Member LinkedIN Profile

11-14-2004, 03:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
PolurNET Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I ♥ Business Law Posts: 3,082	Politics can be annoying and vulgar, but that kind of behaviour should not appear here @ NP as well... good thing apollo pointed that out

11-16-2004, 08:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
Sabre First Time Poster! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chelmsford, UK Posts: 11,311	that would be a really good idea to have that i dont think there is a system in place for it at the moment... __________________ Backpacker Insurance

11-16-2004, 09:50 AM	#16 (permalink)
Sabre First Time Poster! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chelmsford, UK Posts: 11,311	true..... but then again.... sometimes you just HAVE to do it... __________________ Backpacker Insurance

11-17-2004, 05:53 AM	#18 (permalink)
bensontwenty Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,085	yup - politeness costs nothing. Sadly, even that seems to be expensive for some. I welcome this move as Namepros was becoming a drag with the constant bickering and mudslinging by a select few. Thanks for taking action Armstrong - much appreciated

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anthonyjdoe NamePros Regular Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 403	Yeah and with people taking freedom away comes Nazis __________________ HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE

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adam_uk Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,187	fu jk

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webm@ster Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 40	Mm, interesting.....

11-21-2004, 04:06 AM	#25 (permalink)
Ber\|Art Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 1,519	yeah, I do not know Sabre Hosting personaly, but I still know him form speaking to him at this Forum and I think that one of the problems is, that people do not care, why byting at eachother? There is no point, dissagreing is normal but this can be done without cursing or figting IMO. __________________ Berrie Pelser Ber\|Art Visual Design (http://hosting.ber-art.nl) DNOA Member LinkedIN Profile

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