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How you feel about the Google Chrome?


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Let's say, compare with IE7, OPERA or FireFox...

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Google Chrome: is it out of this world?


Google Chrome: is it out of this world?


Telegraph.co.uk / 11/09/2008

The new web browser is already giving competitors a run for their money, says Claudine Beaumont


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Everything the search giant Google touches seems to turn to gold, from Gmail, its free web-based email service, to its latest and most ambitious project - a new internet browser, Chrome.
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Less an internet browser and more an operating system: Google Chrome

Google's answer to Microsoft's Internet Explorer web browser, Chrome may only have been released last Tuesday, but it's already making a huge splash.
Take the Telegraph's own website, for instance. On Monday of this week - just six days after the beta, or test, version of Chrome was launched - 1.8 per cent of all visitors to our website were using the new Google browser. What makes it more interesting is that visitors to our website are a conservative bunch - almost two-thirds are running Microsoft's Windows XP operating system, 17 per cent use the newest version, Vista, while 9 per cent use Macs and 1 per cent run Linux. So, for such a significant number of Telegraph online readers to have jumped on the "early adopters" bandwagon and downloaded a beta version of a week-old internet browser is very telling.
Graham Jones, an internet psychologist, says this apparent "leap of faith" can be put down to the "Google Factor".

"People trust Google," he says. "They are more likely to take the risk of downloading and trying the new software if it's made by a trusted brand. There's also a mistrust of Microsoft. Some people feel that when they buy a Windows computer and find Internet Explorer pre-loaded, they feel compelled to use it. They feel it takes away their choice.

"People like to feel in control, so opting for a browser from a trusted brand helps them to take back some of that control."

Google appears to be directly challenging Microsoft's dominance of both the online and offline computing worlds.

"It challenges not just Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser but also its Windows desktop by supporting richer web applications less dependent on standard operating systems," says Laurent Lachal, an analyst with Ovum.
Much has been made by Google of the fact that Chrome is a browser designed for a new era of internet use.

"We realised that the web had evolved from mainly simple text pages to rich, interactive applications and that we needed to completely rethink the browser," says Google. "What we really needed was not just a browser, but also a modern platform for web pages and applications, and that's what we set out to build."

One of Chrome's major selling points is its ability to treat each open web page as a separate "process". It also means that Chrome can handle hefty tasks usually performed by dedicated software, installed on the hard drive. Photo editing, for example, could be done through Chrome using an online service such as Google's Picasa rather than installed software such as Adobe Photoshop. Similarly, word processing tasks could be performed through the browser, online, using the Google Docs service rather than Microsoft Word.
In short, Chrome's sheer processing "grunt" could, in time, make it less an internet browser and more like an operating system, capable of running complex software online, accessible from any computer with an internet connection, rather than installing programs on a single machine.

And, of course, any aspirations that Google might have for its browser to become a web-based operating system represents a serious threat to the likes of Microsoft, which owes much of its success to the ubiquitous presence of the Windows operating system on millions of computers.

The early signs seem to indicate that while Chrome has a long way to go before it commands a similar slice of the market to Microsoft's Internet Explorer, it is chipping away at its user base. Other browsers, such as Mozilla Firefox, are feeling the benefits of Google's disruptive entry into the fray.

"Internet Explorer took the entire market share hit from Chrome," says Vince Vizzaccaro, executive vice-president of marketing for web-monitoring firm Net Applications. "The rest of the alternative browsers all had gains as well." None the less, Internet Explorer still accounts for almost three-quarters of the browser market, with Firefox taking second place with a 20 per cent share.

According to Net Applications, Chrome has taken between a 1 and 2 per cent share of the global browser market in the week since its launch. Its early success, combined with the fact that Internet Explorer has lost about 5 per cent of its market share since the start of the year, means that Google is in a strong position.

Chrome's prospects could be boosted significantly by the launch of Android, a Google-backed operating system for mobile phones. Android is designed to bring the things people enjoy on desktop computers to a mobile device, and browsing the web is critical to that. Sergey Brin, one of Google's co-founders, said that although Chrome was unlikely to appear on first-generation Android phones, expected soon, future versions would probably have it.

Mobile web browsing, such as with Apple's iPhone, is the next big battlefront. If Google can translate its dominance of web search into web browsing as a whole, both on computers and on mobile devices, then Chrome could become as ubiquitous as Internet Explorer has been - in time, it could become the only software your computer needs.
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Garry Barker / September 11, 2008

looks at Google's new test browser, Chrome.


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In the bitter war between Microsoft, king of shrink-wrapped software, and Google, emperor of the internet, the latter's forces just invaded a key citadel of the Dark Empire - the world's most popular web browser,Internet Explorer.

Google, now a massively rich online advertising, software and services company, has just released a test version of Google Chrome, a web browser it hopes will dominate the internet.

Microsoft faithful say Chrome will not breach IE's walls, but others, noting that it is backed by the most powerful force on the internet, say it challenges not only IE but Apple's Safari, Mozilla's Firefox and all the other browsers.

More significantly, Google Chrome adds to the accelerating shift of computing from the individual personal computer to the "cloud", the internet-made-and-connected data system that Apple harnesses with MobileMe.

Chrome is a cloud browser, the first of its kind, designed to run applications rather than just draw up webpages. Could it become a cloud operating system that might challenge Windows, Mac OS X and Linux?

When Google founder Sergey Brin was asked whether Chrome would be developed that way at the product launch in California, he said there was some way to go but he did not deny that was the goal.

If you use an iPhone, you will know that considerable problems are involved in achieving robustness in the cloud, but money, energy, intellect and demand will solve those issues. Or so we in the darkness of Australia's broadband wilderness hope.

Australia must reach world standards in its broadband networks. If the cloud is to make good its promise. it must be served by excellent, high-speed communications. In Australia this is a curate's egg, less of it good than bad. For instance, my Optus cable is currently delivering a paltry 169kilobytes per second and ADSL2+ is not available, although a big telephone exchange is little more than three kilometres away.

So is Chrome just a browser or is it an online operating system? And if the latter, what does that hold for Mac OS X and MobileMe? Unfortunately, the first release of Chrome is for Windows only. Mac and Linux versions are on the way, we hope quickly, because this browser looks like opening some wide gates.

As things stand, even with Safari, which by present standards is no slouch, the web browser is a bottleneck in getting information to customers. So Google went into the browser business itself, but made Chrome an open-source application.

Others can examine what Google's engineers have done and maybe upgrade their own products. If they do (and if they are to compete, they must) then all of us will be better off, including Google, which wants to get its massive load of information, services, applications and advertisements down to the rest of us.

Google says Chrome is "very fast, stable; more robust because each web application can run in its own environment. We give each webpage its own little playground", so if one thing crashes, the rest can sail merrily on. The development team explains some of its goals and Chrome's features in a YouTube video at tinyurl.com/5qwbwk.

Much is also being made in online comment forums about Google having hired topline US comic book creator Scott McCloud to make a user manual in the form of, well, a comic book. McCloud has used the senior Chrome developers at Google as characters in a story designed to help non-geeks and journalists understand the complexities. Get it from google.com/googlebooks/chrome.

Information Week commentator Roger Smith (tinyurl.com/5nqt74), who has been using the Chrome beta for Windows for a couple of weeks now, says: "I especially like the sleek tabbed interface, the faster Javascript virtual machine and the multiprocessing, multithreaded 'sandbox' architecture, which prevents one tab from crashing another and provides improved protection from rogue sites."

One other possible reason behind the decision to develop Chrome has been advanced in a couple of forums - money. Google forks out millions to Mozilla, Microsoft, Apple and so on because every time someone uses the Google link built into their browser, the browser maker gets a credit for referring a customer. If there were a big swing to Chrome, Google would save several hundred million dollars a year.
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Such crass thoughts aside, Chrome looks well worth trying - just as soon as a Mac version appears, which is something some of us get a bit tired of saying. Adobe please also copy; we eagerly await the promised Mac versions of Photoshop Elements 7 and Premier Elements 7.

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So far as I can see, about the only thing an iPhone cannot do is make a good herb omelet. Still, iPhone and iPod touch applications are arriving in such a torrent that in the odd fevered moment I see a smart-aleck developer rushing into iTunes' AppStore with a frypan attachment. But if you wish to keep your recipes close, check out the Chef app.

For convenience, consider software to turn your device into a wireless flash drive. I know of three: Datacase, FileMagnet (Mac only) and Files. All use wi-fi to transfer images, documents, webpages, video, PDFs and so on from a computer to the device. Then view them as you would a webpage using the scrolling and gesturing of the iPhone. Files may also be transferred to another Mac or iTunes-equipped PC.

I use Datacase because of its neat interface and because, unlike FileMagnet, no helper application needs to be installed on the Mac. Datacase ($8.99) shows space in the device's memory and sorts uploaded files into categories such as videos, photos and documents. File transfer is an easy drag and drop. FileMagnet ($5.99) is listed as an AppStore staff favourite and while it is not as neat as Datacase, it is easy to use. Files ($8.99) is like FileMagnet but does not require the helper app. Any client that understands the WebDAV protocol can connect. As with the others, you need Mac OSX 10.4.11 or higher and a wi-fi network for your iPhone/iPodtouch and your computer.

Others can examine what Google's engineers have done and maybe upgrade their own products. If they do (and if they are to compete, they must) then all of us will be better off, including Google, which wants to get its massive load of information, services, applications and advertisements down to the rest of us.

Google says Chrome is "very fast, stable; more robust because each web application can run in its own environment. We give each webpage its own little playground", so if one thing crashes, the rest can sail merrily on. The development team explains some of its goals and Chrome's features in a YouTube video at tinyurl.com/5qwbwk.

Much is also being made in online comment forums about Google having hired topline US comic book creator Scott McCloud to make a user manual in the form of, well, a comic book. McCloud has used the senior Chrome developers at Google as characters in a story designed to help non-geeks and journalists understand the complexities. Get it from google.com/googlebooks/chrome.

Information Week commentator Roger Smith (tinyurl.com/5nqt74), who has been using the Chrome beta for Windows for a couple of weeks now, says: "I especially like the sleek tabbed interface, the faster Javascript virtual machine and the multiprocessing, multithreaded 'sandbox' architecture, which prevents one tab from crashing another and provides improved protection from rogue sites."

One other possible reason behind the decision to develop Chrome has been advanced in a couple of forums - money. Google forks out millions to Mozilla, Microsoft, Apple and so on because every time someone uses the Google link built into their browser, the browser maker gets a credit for referring a customer. If there were a big swing to Chrome, Google would save several hundred million dollars a year.

Such crass thoughts aside, Chrome looks well worth trying - just as soon as a Mac version appears, which is something some of us get a bit tired of saying. Adobe please also copy; we eagerly await the promised Mac versions of Photoshop Elements 7 and Premier Elements 7.

Macfile

So far as I can see, about the only thing an iPhone cannot do is make a good herb omelet. Still, iPhone and iPod touch applications are arriving in such a torrent that in the odd fevered moment I see a smart-aleck developer rushing into iTunes' AppStore with a frypan attachment. But if you wish to keep your recipes close, check out the Chef app.

For convenience, consider software to turn your device into a wireless flash drive. I know of three: Datacase, FileMagnet (Mac only) and Files. All use wi-fi to transfer images, documents, webpages, video, PDFs and so on from a computer to the device. Then view them as you would a webpage using the scrolling and gesturing of the iPhone. Files may also be transferred to another Mac or iTunes-equipped PC.

I use Datacase because of its neat interface and because, unlike FileMagnet, no helper application needs to be installed on the Mac. Datacase ($8.99) shows space in the device's memory and sorts uploaded files into categories such as videos, photos and documents. File transfer is an easy drag and drop. FileMagnet ($5.99) is listed as an AppStore staff favourite and while it is not as neat as Datacase, it is easy to use. Files ($8.99) is like FileMagnet but does not require the helper app. Any client that understands the WebDAV protocol can connect. As with the others, you need Mac OSX 10.4.11 or higher and a wi-fi network for your iPhone/iPodtouch and your computer.
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I didn't liked it that much though.

Moving from IE to FF was great.

Chrome is not good enough for me to move from FF to Chrome.
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But i would use FF3.0 at the moment. Its the best fastest most reliable browser
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Just a basic browser and nothing special,the speed is nice though...
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I am certainly not a fan of it.

Considering there have been 2 major security holes discovered within a couple of days of release (as well as a few minor ones) and Google have not yet bothered to release the update that fixed these (they have been available in SVN).

Is this a taste of Google's commitment to security? Also no point in using the argument of "it is still in beta". Gmail is still in beta and that has been running for 4 1/2 years, the same goes for GTalk which has been going for 3 years. Yet these 2 products are still in Beta.

Google are not using the product status the way it is meant to be used, instead they are using it to diminish responsibility when something goes wrong.

If Microsoft or Firefox were taking this long to release a fix for such major bugs their would be a slew of bad publicity raging around the internet.

What is more a few years back Google were complainging about the fact that it took more that 3 clicks to change the default search page in internet explorer. Now how many clicks does it take in Chrome. Pot, Kettle and Black spring to mind.
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I have seen some posts on different forums. As far as I understand this browser somehow pass your privacy data to google and for most people that is not really comfortable.
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Chrome or Explorer?


Chrome or Explorer?

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Google's latest innovation is called Google Chrome, an open-source Web browser. Windows Internet Explorer has also introduced a new version of its Web browser, Internet Explorer 8, which is also free. Both browsers are still in public beta testing, which means they are not yet finished but are available for the public to use. Chrome was released on Sept. 5. The beta 2 version of Internet Explorer 8 was released on Aug. 27.

Both browsers are currently only available for Microsoft Windows, but Google is working on Mac and Linux versions of Chrome.

Both companies say that their browsers offer increased speed, convenience of use, privacy and security. So which of the two is better?

"The very first thing I noticed was how easy Chrome was to use. It's a very clean, streamlined browser. I also noticed the speed immediately; it loaded in about a fifth of the time it takes Firefox to load," said Nathan Bellis, 20, a junior film studies major.

Bellis has been a longtime Firefox user but that is changing.

"Since I've downloaded Google Chrome I haven't opened Firefox. I've been very impressed with the way Chrome lets you access and experience the web. Obviously there are a few kinks to work out but as of right now I can't see myself going back to Firefox," Bellis said.

Patrick Greer, a 21-year-old MCD biology major says that he hasn't noticed much of a difference between Chrome and other browsers.

"Right now I still prefer Firefox...as of right now (Chrome) is lacking a lot on the features, so with the modifications I've made to Firefox it makes it a better browser for me."

As for Internet Explorer 8 the consensus seems to be that it is a large improvement over previous versions but doesn't really offer much over other browsers.

"When I downloaded Internet Explorer 8 I was mostly comparing it to its predecessors, and it's come a long way from Internet Explorer 7, especially in regards to speed. Internet Explorer 8 is a lot faster and a lot more stable than Internet Explorer 7 and even though Internet Explorer 8 is in a beta right now, it feels like a finished product," Bellis said.
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Bellis also feels Internet Explorer lacks the leanness the other browsers offer.

"[Internet Explorer 8] feels bloated, the browser took a lot more space to install and it also takes up a lot more active memory. Internet Explorer is a good browser to have around if you come across a Web site that requires Internet Explorer, but other than that I can't see myself using Internet Explorer 8, especially when I have an alternative like Chrome," Bellis said.

In an article on www.CNN.com, Peter Svensson has a different stance because of how the browsers use the central processing unit, the brain of the computer.

"When playing a YouTube video, Firefox 3 took up 95 percent of the CPU time on a 3-year old laptop running Windows XP. Chrome came in at 60 percent -- still too much. Especially since Google owns YouTube! You'd think it could make its browser work well with that site in particular. Internet Explorer barely broke a sweat, taking up just a few percent."

In the end, Svensson's vote goes toward Internet Explorer 8 as the winner in the battle of browsers.

As both browsers are still in beta testing they should see improvements in functionality and, especially, stability by the time final versions are released.

Contact CU Independent Staff Writer Ellie Bean at eleanore.bean@colorado.edu.
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As for me, I don't plan on using Google Chrome simply because I am not interested in any company controlling almost every step of the process when using the internet. I've heard some good things about it, and I hope that some of the technology might filter down and spark some other ideas in FF and IE.
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Google = walmart of the internet(which to me is even worse).
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I don't like Chrome browser, it's too minimalist. I prefer Opera 9.6 that has the option to synchronize the bookmarks and the feeds with all your computers and of course is really fast
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I don't like the lack of autofill and other things that were located on the Google Toolbar, which, ironically, you can't install on Chrome. I do like the page that links you back to the last few sites you visited since I do go back to the same sites over and over in any given day.
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Chrome's an OS, not a Browser! Chrome's an OS, not a Browser!

Tim Bajarin / 09.19.08

Google's Chrome app may accelerate the move to cloud computing.


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Back in 1995, the folks at Netscape had big dreams for their little browser. At the time, they told me that I should view the browser as the gateway to a world of information and online applications. One of them cast out a throwaway comment, that it might someday be viewed as the operating system of the Internet.

I've never forgotten that meeting and have often wondered about those comments. I understood that the browser would become a gateway to information and simple applications like e-mail and messaging, but the idea of it becoming an OS seemed far-fetched.

Yet this is exactly what's happening today. The browser is on track to becoming the fundamental operating system for the Internet—the medium for delivering the next generation of information, entertainment, and applications. More important, while the goal should be applications that would work with any browser, the trend will be apps that are fine-tuned and integrated into the browser itself. Google officials never refer to Chrome as an Internet OS, but they have emphasized their goals: to evolve the Web, and to make their browser even more powerful and useful. This is marketing speak for wanting greater control of the Web experience itself. And my sense is that Google is going to tightly integrate its suite of apps directly within Chrome.

A good example of what this might look like in the future is the way Apple approaches OS and app integration today. With Mac OS X, you also get the iLife suite, which is highly integrated and extremely fine-tuned for the OS itself. That means you can create an iMovie within iLife, easily pulling music from iTunes and still images from iPhoto to create a seamlessly integrated multimedia movie.

I believe that this type of OS (browser) and application integration is behind Google's thinking about Chrome, and it's designed to help Google differentiate its browser from the others. In that sense, Chrome will become more an Internet OS for delivering integrated applications than just another browser. And of course, search will be intimately integrated into every app to make it even more "useful."

Interestingly, Google did not actually reinvent the browser from scratch. The company just adapted the open-source WebKit browser engine used by Apple's Safari browser. Interestingly, just after Chrome was announced, I spoke with folks at Apple who pointed out that apps written for Chrome could also be used in Safari—since the two browsers use the same base code. And just as important, they both support AJAX and JavaScript, key tools for developing rich applications for delivery over the Internet. So fundamentally speaking, Google is adhering to the major standards that drive the Web today. However, the company clearly sees a way to make its browser different—more like an OS than just a mainstream browser.

There's another way to get a glimpse of Google's priorities, although you might not see this unless you're a Chrome developer. If you click on the Task Manager inside the Developer menu, you get a window that lists each page you have opened and how much memory and processing time it's using. This is something today's traditional operating systems do for you, of course. Also, there is even a button called End Process that forces a wayward page to close. This type of kill function is another normal OS component. Perhaps you're getting the picture. Chrome already acts more like an OS than a browser: It loads Web-based applications, manages memory and processor use, and keeps apps from interfering with one another.

Now, the cynic in me says that this is just another reminder that Google wants to control the Internet and make everyone its slaves. Google does want to expand its dominant position, but making the browser more powerful and developing it in the likeness of an OS is something you can expect from Microsoft, too, as well as from other open-source browsers on the market. Clearly, other browser makers understand that the browser is destined to become an OS and are working on similar strategies of their own.

Although the rise of the browser OS doesn't mean the end of operating systems such as Windows, Linux, and OS X, it does represent the future of the Internet and its role in delivering applications. It will take another couple of years to get these browsers to this level of functionality, but with Chrome, we have the first real glimpse of how the Internet OS might impact the world of personal computing.


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Tim Bajarin is one of the leading analysts working in the technology industry today. He is president of Creative Strategies (www.creativestrategies.com), a research company that produces strategy research reports for 50 to 60 companies annually—a roster that includes semiconductor and PC companies, as well as those in telecommunications, consumer electronics, and media. Customers have included AMD, Apple, Dell, HP, Intel, and Microsoft, among many others. You can e-mail him directly at tim@creativestrategies.com.
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I heard from many fellows that Chrome will be able to get more information about us and I think this is not at all good.

I am not using it till this one is on beta stage. Later on definitely I will give a try
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To be honest, I haven't even tried it yet. I read a lot of articles about it, but didn't install it. At the moment, Firefox's got all that I need.
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To satisfy my curiosity and be able to talk about it: Chrome: Installed - tested - uninstalled. FF3 for me and IE7 as backup.

Just the plain thought of Google collecting more data and spam me with behavioral advertising is appalling. Aren't deep enough into our lives by now?

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I wonder when will google will be out with a new OS
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Microsoft has lot to worry about in 3 or 4 years of time, with google giving away operating systems for FREE. That would be so cool.......heh
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