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Old 05-30-2007, 01:24 PM   · #1
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WASHINGTON (AFP) - The idea of executing child rapists, even when there in no loss of life, is making headway in the United States.

The Louisiana Supreme Court last week upheld the death sentence for a pedophile, and the governor of Texas is soon to sign into law legislation to that effect.

In 1995, Louisiana was the first state to adopt legislation authorizing the death penalty for child rapists.

Ten years later, the movement to make pedophilia punishable by death really picked up steam after nine-year-old Jessica Lunsford was raped and buried alive in Florida by a man with a prior conviction for sex crimes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2007052...liticsexecution

The problem with any death sentence is people frequently live on Death Row for years going thru appeals.. I'm not a big fan of the death penalty, unless it's done quickly (for one). I also don't see it as much of a deterrent. Plus you have the possibility of someone being wrongly convicted..

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Old 05-30-2007, 02:11 PM   · #2
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on the article not so much views as on the news itself. i think it is a bit of an overreacted idea. its like they kill homosexuals in Iran.
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castration of the p***s.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:32 PM   · #4
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i think it is a bit of an overreacted idea. its like they kill homosexuals in Iran.




Not even close. Consensual sex between homosexual adults is nothing like a child being forced to commit a sex act or having one forced on them.

I don't think they should kill gays in Iran but raping a child is worst than murder in my book and they should get at least what a murderer gets. Children are innocent and need protecting. If they just let the pedophiles run in the general population of a prison, they will get what the deserve.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:41 PM   · #5
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You forget.. some pedophiles are women..

And, do we impose the death sentence where no physical injury or physical threat ocurred? Is that "cruel and unusual" punishment?

BTW- I was abused as a child from the age of 6 to 8 by a 16 yr old female neighbor/babysitter and her 11 yr old sister and again a bit later by an adult male whom I cannot remember. In fact, there are large portions of my childhood I cannot recall completely, possibly because of this very thing.

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Old 05-30-2007, 02:52 PM   · #6
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murder should be punishable by death.

all rapists and child rapists for one crime should be put in prison for 40 years
and made to work without no pay, tv, sweets, cigs, chocolates.

child rapists for two crimes castration of the p***s for males put in prison
and made to work untill they die without no pay, tv, sweets, cigs, chocolates..

Makes me sick that in prison you can have a tv, sweets, cigs, chocolates.
it should be rice, water, pasta, veg, bread and a chorky vitamin tablet.

for woman rapists have their tongue and teeth took out plus the above.
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Old 05-30-2007, 03:05 PM   · #7
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on the article not so much views as on the news itself. i think it is a bit of an overreacted idea. its like they kill homosexuals in Iran.

Exactly how is it similar to executing homosexuals in Iran?

I personally think that the death penalty should be imposed for any forced sexual act which involves penetration, regardless of the age of the victim.

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for woman rapists have their tongue and teeth took out plus the above.

WTF?
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for a woman not to be able to talk it would be hell for them.

i was kind of being silly just like the law is a joke, ive heard of a rapist
just getting 6 months in prison and parole in 4 months now thats wtf.

a thief robs 56 houses gets put in prison for 7 months parole in 5 ? wtf.

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Old 05-30-2007, 05:57 PM   · #9
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Simply, no.

Doesn't it make you just as bad as the criminal if you condemn them to death? Surely it's worse to be locked in solitary confinement for the rest of your life than to be murdered by the very people who are trying to stop murders being committed!
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There's a difference between murder or a heinous crime and punishment. I frankly fail to see how people don't see it, I guess it just doesn't coincide with logic for me.

The thing with child predators is there is a serious problem with repeat offenders and this is something that is with the person the rest of their life. It's a heinous act that there is just no excuse or explanation for.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:10 PM   · #11
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I'm all for the death penalty for such disgusting and horrible crimes such as child rape...
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I might be 100% off base, but...

Aren't sexually abused children more inclined -- statistically -- to becoming sexual predators themselves? It definitely has some impact, listening to "Loveline" can reveal as much.

It just seems like we're double punishing people. If we assume that 1/5th of every pedophile was abused themselves and that trauma caused them to become a pedophile -- or at least facilitated it -- then a portion of the victims are then later in life, killed. I just think that there should be extenuating circumstances that would involve jail time or (attempted) rehabilitation.

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I might be 100% off base, but...

Aren't sexually abused children more inclined -- statistically -- to becoming sexual predators themselves? It definitely has some impact, listening to "Loveline" can reveal as much.

It just seems like we're double punishing people. If we assume that 1/5th of every pedophile was abused themselves and that trauma caused them to become a pedophile -- or at least facilitated it -- then a portion of the victims are then later in life, killed. I just think that there should be extenuating circumstances that would involve jail time or (attempted) rehabilitation.

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Peter has a point about abused children more inclined to become sexual predators themselves. Bullied children are more likely to bully another person later on in their life.

My views on the death penalty are clear; It should only happen in extreme circumstances. Serial Killers, Child Rapists, Treason against the state: My three things worthy of the death penalty. I've always thought rapists deserve to have their ... you knows .... cut off but I have read many upon many cases recently in papers over in the UK of women making up that a man raped them. In some cases, just so their husband does find out they've been at it behind their back. How callous. Many also cry rape because they were too drunk to remember giving consent. I can't justify cutting off things if I don't believe they actually did it.

People don't think the British has the death penalty, but they're mistaken. You can still be hung for committing treason. So there you go; don't sell secrets
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There's a difference between murder or a heinous crime and punishment. I frankly fail to see how people don't see it, I guess it just doesn't coincide with logic for me.

The thing with child predators is there is a serious problem with repeat offenders and this is something that is with the person the rest of their life. It's a heinous act that there is just no excuse or explanation for.



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It's certainly a complex issue, isn't it? Exactly why I posted.. wondering what the general consensus is.. as always, good to hear from all sides and perspectives.

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I might be 100% off base, but...

Aren't sexually abused children more inclined -- statistically -- to becoming sexual predators themselves? It definitely has some impact, listening to "Loveline" can reveal as much.

It just seems like we're double punishing people. If we assume that 1/5th of every pedophile was abused themselves and that trauma caused them to become a pedophile -- or at least facilitated it -- then a portion of the victims are then later in life, killed. I just think that there should be extenuating circumstances that would involve jail time or (attempted) rehabilitation.

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