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“655,000 Iraqi civilians have died. Who are the terrorists?”
-Rosie O’Donnell from The View comparing U.S. activities with Islamic terrorism
If a U.S. politician stood up and said that he’d kill 100 Iraqis for every one U.S. soldier killed, he would be considered a moderate since the U.S. has killed on average over 500 Iraqis for every one Westerner killed by Al Qaeda.
Now this isn’t intended to get into a debate over motivation or reasons for engaging in these horrible killings. Everybody has reasons for the things they do and anybody can justify their actions (at least to themselves). But, objectively, it is more than obvious that Rosie O’Donnell statement was actually conservative and an underestimation.
Rofl They hate us, yet like everything we have and make. Idealogize the freedoms and enjoy the freedoms. What a contradiction to say the least. IF they dislike the US ideology they need to not let and or buy Coke, Pepsi, Mcdonalds, Walmart, US Guns, Cloting, Our music industry and stop watching US movies.
As far as Rosie Goes. Her comments are fine, even if I disagree with her. She just needs to realize that The View is a daytime talk she. If she wants to be a host and or moderator she needs to look elsewhere, cause the general public only watches her to see what her mouth will get her into. She needs to host Nightline, 20/20, Larry King Live, Bill O'Reilly, Air America, 60 Minutes, Charlie Rose. Or work for FOX news or CNN and do a political show.
There is a time and a place for everything and The View wasnt the place. But really the statements and beliefs she has are really not for the View and needs to be done on a more political show. The View is for pure entertainment purpose and does provide useful information on human interest stories. But not in the length or magnitude Rosie discusses. She needs a better suited program for her beliefs and facts to discuss.
I actually watched this episode of the View the day it aired and everyone was spewing out their opinions on the war for some reason. It wasn't just Rosie. I think it was the topic of that segment of the show.
Yes and your right. But again like I said what the level of The View is. The woman use the show like it was a politcal air time. For that magnitude of discussion should lie within another show and not on The View. Not a daytime talk show that equals to like Regis and Kelly.
Many times I have seen the woman get side tracked from the real topic at hand. And I do remember at times that Star Jones and Joy Behar where at each others eyes on certain discussions as well.
So it is apparent that the producers like cat fights out of the woman for ratings. That is apparent. Just unless The View producers want to gear the agenda of the show elsewhere.
Indeed I find myself discussing politics with other woman. But as a general rule(not always followed though). There is a time and a place for everything. And while discussing politics with other woman or other people, I do not do it to get noticed, ratings, brownie buttons, applause or greenies. I make a point and have to realize that others may have a different opinion and or see it a different way.
But on the view neither woman took the time to say, "We can agree to disagree". But made it into a drag out, drag down cat fight. And they both looked foolish and pushy.
And the magnitude of the discussion should not be on the show but a show geared more towards that level of discussion. Thats just my opinion.
So again it goes back to that such magnitude of political discussions should be done or geared more on a political/news show than on a daytime talk show.
Aww, come on, does it really have to be all or nothing? It is possible to love something, but still criticise some of its attributes, e.g. I love my girlfriend, bit it still drives me up the wall when she leaves her make up everywhere!
(I can't believe I just compared foundation powder on the kitchen table to over half a million dead people!)
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt
Ok, Ok. You can have your Mcdonald's double cheesburger and coke while shopping at Walmart for the great rollbacks in search of those great Nike's and New Realeses on movies and music. Ok Ok. Everyone has to enjoy themselves. Your right. Rofl
Actually it's not about rejection of the US way of life as a whole, but rejection of certain aspects like foreign policy.
I don't have to be a Muslim to enjoy a good couscous
Marked Heated - As anything with the Word Rosie in it should be ....
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That's a stupid comparison Rosie made. Iraq wasn't invaded because of the terrorism. It was invaded on suspicion of W.O.M.D. first, and after none were found, "to free the people from Saddam's rule of terror".
No, it was oil. The other reasons you mentioned were just political spin to get support for the war.
Someone mentioned in this thread that they thought the issues Rosie raised should have been on some other TV program, a program dealing with political issues. I disagree, IMO most people who watch those types of programs are the ones who need a wake up call.
well, I don't think we will ever know the true reasons, our world works in too mysteries ways. but i do think that as a presumption, you must be pretty close.
Well, we closed down the special ops unit assigned to searching for Bin Laden, so I'm assuming we aren't looking too hard.. our priorities seem to be "elsewhere".
I found some interesting information yesterday, did you know that there are 100,000 American contractors working in Iraq? If you add the deaths of those contractors (770 in total) to the American deaths in Iraq, it raises it by 25%
Of course, you don't hear these figures bantered about by the media, it's bad press for the government and contractors would stop signing up for the jobs.
Then there's the 8,000 contractors who were badly wounded while working in Iraq.
So hearing about the deaths of our troops and the Iraqi people daily is good news? Come on.
I'm not attacking you, but this statement itself suggests a pretty misinformed attitude. Think about the other side of the coin. These contractors include ex-military men, most of whom who went over there to make money. They know good and well what they are getting into. A war zone is a war zone.
As for Rosie... She calls the troops terrorists - and yes, I've seen the clip, she did - instead of attacking the President. That is a pig headed remark coming from one it seems. She just attacks whoever she wants to get the publicity. It works for a while, but she eventually flops like she always has. Furthermore, have you ever watched Rosie on the The View? I admit it's not one of my favorite venues, but it was physically impossible to have a conversation on the show because she'd run her mouth about what she knew so much about on every topic. She interrupts, talks over, and simply doesn't stop.
Finally, she always comes through in the end. Just like this episode where she said she won't talk to this girl again now. Way to bow out gracefully, Rosie.
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CrazyTech, you're missing valid points here and I'm not 'misinformed'
If I sat around watching FOX, CNN, ABC and the rest of the corporate controlled American media networks, I most certainly would be 'misinformed'
I get my news from the frontline news agencies, the ones which don't have a myriad of political filters in place, the ones which don't tell the so called journalists 'what to say' before they go on air, the ones which don't censor words and phrases like 'occupation' when reporting on the Israel conflict.
Any death is a tragedy, IMHO (And I'm a British citizen) America should keep their nose out of other countries business, resources and politics. I mean, how can you force 'Democracy' on Iraq? A people who have never had or experienced democracy in their entire political history? Ridiculous, and all those innocent civillians, soldiers, contractors killed in the name of what? Democracy? No, corporate profits.
The money that America has spent on overseas bases, overthrowing enemy governments, starting wars, paying corporate contracts and financing terrorism amounts to Trillions of dollars. Yes, you might not like hearing it but America finances terrorists and that includes Israel which is a terrorist state.
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