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Old 11-10-2006, 08:31 AM   · #1
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Question Creation of Earth

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I was discussing with my classmates today about the creation of Earth and everyone had his own opinion , please what do you think ?
Do you believe in God and was He the creator of this Planet ?

What is My Opinion ?

Personally i dont believe in God , i also dont believe that weird Ev & Adam theory because then the question is how , from 2 people we are nowdays 6 billion ? You know perfectly that incest would occur (when you have relationship with your sister or cousin your children would be with problems)

So that is an absurd theory for me!

I believe everything was created by itself ! You will ask how ? Well there is a simple example , listen how it works :

Get a piece of cheese , let it for one or two months in the middle of a table and you will see that after a period of time there will be some worm-like structures! But also this theory isnt really valid as we all know that humans are multi-cellular organisms where as bacterias and worms are unicellular!

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It is my belief that God created the Earth and everything that took place in Genesis 1 + 2 in relation to creationism is absolute truth. However, I will say that further study should yield that the creation of the races in Genesis 1 is an entirely different story than the creation of Adam and Eve in Genesis 2. That's another thread for another day, but you now know where I stand.
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Its pathetic how people believe everything they hear or read.

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No worms are multicellular.

The stuff on the cheese was probably paramecium.

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Not all worms are multicellular !

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The Oligochaete Worms.

This class includes a wide variety of worms, primarily freshwater and terrestrial in habitat, with giant earthworms having pigmented bodies and few chaetae at one end of the scale, and tiny colourless aquatic worms with pronounced chaetae at the other. The smaller aquatic forms are the ones shown in these galleries.

They are usually found in the mud and detritus of the pond bottom, and in the tangles of filamentous algae floating on the surface and anchored at the edges of the pond.
They are scavengers -- anything digestible is absorbed from the food intake during its passage through the intestine. In turn, the faecal pellets which fall to the floor of the pond, consisting of undigested remains loosely bound with mucous secretions from the gut of the worm, form a suitable substrate for the support of other life such as unicellular algae, bacteria, and the ciliates, rotifers and other worms which are normally found in their company.



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Where did the cheese come from? I personally think our minds can not graps the truth of how everything came together. Trying to understand how something came from nothing is too advanced for our brains, we can not even comprehend our own existence (the meaning of life). It's nice to be comforted by the thought of some greater being being responsible for creating everything but the truth is there is zero proof of this...not one drop. How did the universe come to be.....I don't have a clue because all the theories don't hold water. There are simply to many questions and not enough answers...

!.) God created everything....then who created God?
2.) It all started with the big bang.....how do you create something from nothing?
3.) If we evolved from Monkeys then what are we going to evolve into next?
4.) Only religion can explain the truth.....so far the only thing religion has done is killed people and started wars.
5.) We came from aliens....who created the aliens

As you can see this can go on forever, as long as people believe in what makes then feel comfortable through life than that is all that is important. All over the world people believe in greater beings of one sort or another and that thought makes then feel good...others do not believe in greater beings and that make them feel good....we all need different things in life some people need a crutch and others do not...either way the truth is too great for us to understand. IMO
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The way our community and world thinks can not explain the creation of earth.
Impossible to explain it.
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Thanks 0lgi! I never knew that there was a class of unicellular worms.
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Originally Posted by DN Tycoon
Where did the cheese come from? I personally think our minds can not graps the truth of how everything came together. Trying to understand how something came from nothing is too advanced for our brains, we can not even comprehend our own existence (the meaning of life). It's nice to be comforted by the thought of some greater being being responsible for creating everything but the truth is there is zero proof of this...not one drop. How did the universe come to be.....I don't have a clue because all the theories don't hold water. There are simply to many questions and not enough answers...

!.) God created everything....then who created God?
2.) It all started with the big bang.....how do you create something from nothing?
3.) If we evolved from Monkeys then what are we going to evolve into next?
4.) Only religion can explain the truth.....so far the only thing religion has done is killed people and started wars.
5.) We came from aliens....who created the aliens

As you can see this can go on forever, as long as people believe in what makes then feel comfortable through life than that is all that is important. All over the world people believe in greater beings of one sort or another and that thought makes then feel good...others do not believe in greater beings and that make them feel good....we all need different things in life some people need a crutch and others do not...either way the truth is too great for us to understand. IMO




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Very well said. This can go ON forever and it is in fact in many discussions. Also even science believes a theory of dimensions. For example, fish, I believe its two dimensional. For fish, we are high dimension (of three). Space is higher dimension than us for example time wraps in space. And there is one argument that God exists in 11th dimension. There is a group of scientists and physicists working on some thing called "string theory" to figure out everything in one small equation. These are fascinating discussions without any conclusive end at least for now. I personally believe, science and only science can find the answer for all this recycling confusion.

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Originally Posted by DN Tycoon
Where did the cheese come from? I personally think our minds can not graps the truth of how everything came together. Trying to understand how something came from nothing is too advanced for our brains, we can not even comprehend our own existence (the meaning of life). It's nice to be comforted by the thought of some greater being being responsible for creating everything but the truth is there is zero proof of this...not one drop. How did the universe come to be.....I don't have a clue because all the theories don't hold water. There are simply to many questions and not enough answers...

!.) God created everything....then who created God?
2.) It all started with the big bang.....how do you create something from nothing?
3.) If we evolved from Monkeys then what are we going to evolve into next?
4.) Only religion can explain the truth.....so far the only thing religion has done is killed people and started wars.
5.) We came from aliens....who created the aliens

As you can see this can go on forever, as long as people believe in what makes then feel comfortable through life than that is all that is important. All over the world people believe in greater beings of one sort or another and that thought makes then feel good...others do not believe in greater beings and that make them feel good....we all need different things in life some people need a crutch and others do not...either way the truth is too great for us to understand. IMO

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I believe God created the earth




If that is the case then who created god?
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Consider the characters in a dream discussing this very issue. The true answer might be something they would not comprehend. But it could in some regards be what "god" or a creator is to us. Something that exists in a different realm, infinitely powerful in relation to ours. Not governed by laws of time and space. Where there would be no such thing as beginning or ending.

It's philosophical but to believe in a creator I think you have to get some concepts of the difference between finite and infinite.
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Fortunately, we do not live in a dream world.
If god created everything then who created god.

It's a simple question and I have yet to hear a reasonable answer.

With so many people in this world so commited to religion I would think that at least one of them would have an answer.

Are we losing tens of thousands of lives every month in this world for a question that has no answer?
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True. I believe our existing methods of comprehension, measurement, observation or perception, all those skills are hugely insufficient to understand the concept of God, who apparently has no start or end.

One of Hinduism's holy books tells that God, himself, expressed himself as Time that we normally use in maths. Now we know that we never understood the concept of time anyway. Yeah, we have measurements but they are only relevant. We have perception of time but that goes out of window once we enter into space.

The quest to find the answer will never end, unless we go to basics and take everything in a new perspective, which could also be flawed unfortunately.

I used to believe that God is a mere concept orchestrated by our ancestors along with the concept of Heaven and Hell, just to keep the masses in control from going insane. This may sound anti-religion, but I think religion is also a concept.

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Consider the characters in a dream discussing this very issue. The true answer might be something they would not comprehend. But it could in some regards be what "god" or a creator is to us. Something that exists in a different realm, infinitely powerful in relation to ours. Not governed by laws of time and space. Where there would be no such thing as beginning or ending.

It's philosophical but to believe in a creator I think you have to get some concepts of the difference between finite and infinite.

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From what I've seen, your not much interested in answers or ideas. How long has it been since you've actually contemplated an opposing viewpoint or changed an opinion?

And you don't know what kind of world we live in anymore than the people in your dreams do.
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What do you mean by we do not live in a dream world? I believe the previous post about dreamland suggests to show the incapabilities of us, human beings, to understand God, just as compared to characters in a dream.

Of course millions of people want to know the answer that is reasonable. But if you talk to the most committed people, they do have answer. Now whether its reasonable or not, to me, or to you is independent choice.

Also to elaborate on the topic, creation or destruction, terms and perceptions created by us, imperfect human minds. Most of our perceptions have born out of our capability to understand things. May be in God's terms, there is no creation or destruction or anything else.

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Fortunately, we do not live in a dream world.
If god created everything then who created god.

It's a simple question and I have yet to hear a reasonable answer.

With so many people in this world so commited to religion I would think that at least one of them would have an answer.

Are we losing tens of thousands of lives every month in this world for a question that has no answer?


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From what I've seen, your not much interested in answers or ideas. How long has it been since you've actually contemplated an opposing viewpoint or changed an opinion?

And you don't know what kind of world we live in anymore than the people in your dreams do.




I am very interested in answers.
Unfortunately all I get is rhetoric. No answers what-so-ever.

Do you have an answer to my simple question?
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What came first...the chicken or the egg?
Now prove it!

We believe what we read, and most of what we are told (most of
the time) because NONE of us actually know the truth!
Alot of people believe in religion...as it helps them deal with death
Going to a better place and all! But keep in mind, since
none of us were actually around, many moons ago - we can
only believe what OTHER people before us wrote about, and claimed
to have happened...
I remember when I was a kid in Scotland going to Sunday school...
before I knew what the bible was about, I used to think the guy who wrote
it just sat down one day and wrote what he thought would make
people feel better! and kudos to "him" as it has, for many many
years!

But as in computers.....the knowledge being given, is only as smart
as the person doing it!
Whether there is an after life??? well, guess we'll have to wait and see

Some say the whole point of life is to understand death!
but I still don't get it!
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Well, sorry to say but its easy to ask questions, but difficult to answer questions or contemplate answers, especially in this matter.

Well, I would give you an answer, then the next question would be, proving it. Then I show some kind of proof as per my perception, then you may need absolute proof. Well, if there is an absolute proof and If I can provide that, oh, well, what can I say?

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I am very interested in answers.
Unfortunately all I get is rhetoric. No answers what-so-ever.

Do you have an answer to my simple question?

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Well, sorry to say but its easy to ask questions, but difficult to answer questions or contemplate answers, especially in this matter.

Well, I would give you an answer, then the next question would be, proving it. Then I show some kind of prove as per my perception, then you may need absolute proof. Well, if there is an absolute proof and If I can provide that, oh, well, what can I say?

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So the short version of your answer, is that you don't have an answer.
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It's a simple question and I have yet to hear a reasonable answer.





Nothing simple about this topic I'm afraid!
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