What is the Best Browser?

Terry · 03-11-2004, 01:37 PM

I've just began to try out Opera. I'd like to hear some of the Pro's and Con's of Opera, Mozilla, and IE.

If you have any horror stories, please let me read them.

RJ · 03-11-2004, 01:59 PM

My favorite is Smart Explorer from www.smarteque.com It uses IE as the back end, but adds a lot of nice features.

Opera is nice too once you get used to it.

I must have 10+ browser windows open at any given time so having tabs is very nice.

Terry · 03-11-2004, 02:27 PM

I like the tabs, too, RJ. But, I never liked Mozilla for some reason. Thanks for the new browser name. I'll check it out.

phrone · 03-11-2004, 02:43 PM

Slimbroswer

tabbed windows and all that good stuff

Terry · 03-11-2004, 03:49 PM

Thanks phrone I'll try that one too. The URL for Slimbrowser is: http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/ if you are interested.

Anthony · 03-11-2004, 11:24 PM

Mozilla is my favorite, but I use IE too.

Roenick · 03-12-2004, 07:47 AM

been using netscape 7 which appears to be very closely related to mozilla. agree... tabbed browsing is a must!

vsesco · 03-12-2004, 08:13 AM

touchnet

you will never go back to ie.

http://www.touchingsoft.com/faq/

03-12-2004, 08:42 PM

Really like Opera, but acts up at some sites. I like Mozilla-highly customizable, no fat. Open source progs (I use Thunderbird for email client) have always impressed me as being a tweakers medium.
I use IE and am currently testing out Wysigot on front end.

Rob · 03-13-2004, 05:41 AM

Notice how all those who chose IE havent had to explain themselves!

Go IE!!

Anthony · 03-13-2004, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobSCM
Notice how all those who chose IE havent had to explain themselves!

Go IE!!

That might just be because they are too busy closing all of those pop-up windows!

Terry · 03-13-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RobSCM
Notice how all those who chose IE havent had to explain themselves!

Maybe they are too embarrassed to make excuses?

***armstrong*** · 03-13-2004, 02:58 PM

Odd that Netscape isnt among your choices, since it still has the 2nd largest market share. Anyway, I use Netscape 7, and particularly enjoy the tabbed interface.

Terry · 03-14-2004, 07:36 AM

I thought that Netscape is Mozilla. Have I been mislead?

***armstrong*** · 03-14-2004, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Terry
I thought that Netscape is Mozilla. Have I been mislead?

Your post made me wonder enough to find out. Here's a succinct explanation that I found (from http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~fast/mozilla/node1.html ):

Quote:

For most practical purposes, Mozilla is Netscape. To be more precise, Netscape takes some of the most useful and stable elements of Mozilla and adds a few extra features (e.g. access to Netscape mail accounts and spellchecking1). Similarly, the Mozilla project contains a load of programs and features that aren't included in the standard Mozilla installation (which is virtually the same as Netscape).

I learned something today!

Terry · 03-14-2004, 09:16 AM

Good info. I learned a little more about it, too.

I'm going to have to check on the add-on features a little more.

03-14-2004, 09:32 AM

Quote:

That might just be because they are too busy closing all of those pop-up windows!

HaHa! What pop-up windows?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/the-break-room/23270-what-is-the-best-browser.html
I think IE users are busy navigating as opposed to spending their time at Mozilla or Opera help groups looking for the latest plug-in (that will do something that IE already does), "chrome", JSLib, a favlet or some other strangely named browser function that doesn't work correctly.
Am I defending a M$N product?

Gag me w/ a spoon.

adam_uk · 03-14-2004, 11:59 AM

imo firefox

googlesearch built in, tabed browsing
quick

Terry · 03-14-2004, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grrilla
HaHa! What pop-up windows?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=23270
I think IE users are busy navigating as opposed to spending their time at Mozilla or Opera help groups looking for the latest plug-in (that will do something that IE already does), "chrome", JSLib, a favlet or some other strangely named browser function that doesn't work correctly.
Am I defending a M$N product? Gag me w/ a spoon.

I've been using Opera for about a week now. I haven't had to download any plugins, yet. But, I probably have more limited browsing habits than some. One of the reasons that I decided to try some others is to break that dirty MSN habit. When I do settle on a browser I thought I would give linux a test drive, too.

03-14-2004, 05:05 PM

Overall, Opera is organizationaly and aesthetically more pleasing to me than IE, and may go back or use along w/ IE. My biggest problem isn't w/ it as much as it is w/ the time already invested in IE to learn it's ideosyncracies and to "customize" IE to my liking. There are a few things I can do w/ IE, that I can't do *in the same way* w/ Opera (ie drag a link from address pane to link folder that I have created and positioned adjacently to Tbar. ).

As time goes on, am getting more set in ways and am dedicating less and less time to the OS.

Terry · 03-14-2004, 05:54 PM

Grrilla,

I take it that you have used Opera in the past. Did you use their Mail program or stick with Outlook. I haven't tryed the Opera mail because of all of the time I have in setting up Outlook Express. I was just wondering Opera has similar screening tools.

03-14-2004, 07:35 PM

I used Opera email a little and, as I recall, it seemed more integrated than OE/IE, but I am by no means an expert on this. I haven't used OE for a long time. I used IncrediMail for a couple of years and got tired of it screwing up and having to redownload. Plus, it's a little "fru-fru" for my tastes. I have been using Thunderbird (Mozilla stand alone client) for some time, and am happy w/ it. The Opera forum (avail direct from Opera toolbar), is a very good and active one. Usually get an answer to questions within a few minutes.

Terry · 03-14-2004, 07:43 PM

I had not heard of Thunderbird. I'll have to take a look at it. Thanks.

I've been playing with Firefox (Mozilla). It seems slow to me. Is this something others here have experienced, or is it just my machine?

Anthony · 03-14-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grrilla
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=23270
HaHa! What pop-up windows?
I think IE users are busy navigating as opposed to spending their time at Mozilla or Opera help groups looking for the latest plug-in (that will do something that IE already does), "chrome", JSLib, a favlet or some other strangely named browser function that doesn't work correctly.
Am I defending a M$N product? Gag me w/ a spoon.

I hope you're joking! Mozilla comes with a pop-up blocker, which is very handy. Mind you, I still use both, but IE doesn't block pop-ups!

Anthony · 03-16-2004, 03:29 AM

In case anyone was wondering, IE is the favorite browser when it comes to people visiting NP:

MSIE: 82.04 % (5,943,444)
Netscape: 11.35 % (822,576)
Opera: 0.444 % (32,194)
Konqueror: 0 % (0)
Lynx: 0.001 % (114)
Other: 1.456 % (105,524)

View Poll Results: What is the best browser?
Internet Explorer	13	56.52%
Mozilla	4	17.39%
Opera	1	4.35%
Other - please post your favorite	5	21.74%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

03-11-2004, 01:37 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
Terry NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wibaux, Montana USA Posts: 650	What is the Best Browser? I've just began to try out Opera. I'd like to hear some of the Pro's and Con's of Opera, Mozilla, and IE. If you have any horror stories, please let me read them. __________________ T1 Internet Services - Direct U Telecom Directory

03-11-2004, 01:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
RJ NamePros Admin Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,919 Follow @DomainBuyer	My favorite is Smart Explorer from www.smarteque.com It uses IE as the back end, but adds a lot of nice features. Opera is nice too once you get used to it. I must have 10+ browser windows open at any given time so having tabs is very nice. __________________ Reach me at rj at namepros dot com

03-11-2004, 02:27 PM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
Terry NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wibaux, Montana USA Posts: 650	I like the tabs, too, RJ. But, I never liked Mozilla for some reason. Thanks for the new browser name. I'll check it out. __________________ T1 Internet Services - Direct U Telecom Directory

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Terry NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wibaux, Montana USA Posts: 650	Thanks phrone I'll try that one too. The URL for Slimbrowser is: http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/ if you are interested. __________________ T1 Internet Services - Direct U Telecom Directory

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03-11-2004, 02:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
phrone Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 1,114	Slimbroswer tabbed windows and all that good stuff

03-11-2004, 11:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Anthony NamePros Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 9,132	Mozilla is my favorite, but I use IE too.

03-12-2004, 07:47 AM	#7 (permalink)
Roenick NamePros Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Baltimore/Washington D.C. Posts: 49	been using netscape 7 which appears to be very closely related to mozilla. agree... tabbed browsing is a must! __________________ " be the change you wish to see in the world " â€“ gandhi

03-12-2004, 08:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
vsesco Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: new york Posts: 152	touchnet you will never go back to ie. http://www.touchingsoft.com/faq/

03-12-2004, 08:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Grrilla Guest Posts: n/a	Really like Opera, but acts up at some sites. I like Mozilla-highly customizable, no fat. Open source progs (I use Thunderbird for email client) have always impressed me as being a tweakers medium. I use IE and am currently testing out Wysigot on front end. Last edited by Grrilla; 03-12-2004 at 09:54 PM.

03-13-2004, 05:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rob Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: England, UK Posts: 2,335	Notice how all those who chose IE havent had to explain themselves! Go IE!!

03-13-2004, 02:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
*armstrong* Man from Manila Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Net Posts: 6,022	Odd that Netscape isnt among your choices, since it still has the 2nd largest market share. Anyway, I use Netscape 7, and particularly enjoy the tabbed interface. __________________ Apollo's excellent 3-letter .BIZ auction; $1 starting bid!

03-14-2004, 07:36 AM	THREAD STARTER #14 (permalink)
Terry NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wibaux, Montana USA Posts: 650	I thought that Netscape is Mozilla. Have I been mislead? __________________ T1 Internet Services - Direct U Telecom Directory

03-14-2004, 09:16 AM	THREAD STARTER #16 (permalink)
Terry NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wibaux, Montana USA Posts: 650	Good info. I learned a little more about it, too. I'm going to have to check on the add-on features a little more. __________________ T1 Internet Services - Direct U Telecom Directory

03-14-2004, 11:59 AM	#18 (permalink)
adam_uk Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,187	imo firefox googlesearch built in, tabed browsing quick

03-14-2004, 05:05 PM	#20 (permalink)
Grrilla Guest Posts: n/a	Overall, Opera is organizationaly and aesthetically more pleasing to me than IE, and may go back or use along w/ IE. My biggest problem isn't w/ it as much as it is w/ the time already invested in IE to learn it's ideosyncracies and to "customize" IE to my liking. There are a few things I can do w/ IE, that I can't do in the same way w/ Opera (ie drag a link from address pane to link folder that I have created and positioned adjacently to Tbar. ). As time goes on, am getting more set in ways and am dedicating less and less time to the OS.

03-14-2004, 05:54 PM	THREAD STARTER #21 (permalink)
Terry NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wibaux, Montana USA Posts: 650	Grrilla, I take it that you have used Opera in the past. Did you use their Mail program or stick with Outlook. I haven't tryed the Opera mail because of all of the time I have in setting up Outlook Express. I was just wondering Opera has similar screening tools. __________________ T1 Internet Services - Direct U Telecom Directory

03-14-2004, 07:35 PM	#22 (permalink)
Grrilla Guest Posts: n/a	I used Opera email a little and, as I recall, it seemed more integrated than OE/IE, but I am by no means an expert on this. I haven't used OE for a long time. I used IncrediMail for a couple of years and got tired of it screwing up and having to redownload. Plus, it's a little "fru-fru" for my tastes. I have been using Thunderbird (Mozilla stand alone client) for some time, and am happy w/ it. The Opera forum (avail direct from Opera toolbar), is a very good and active one. Usually get an answer to questions within a few minutes.

03-14-2004, 07:43 PM	THREAD STARTER #23 (permalink)
Terry NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Wibaux, Montana USA Posts: 650	I had not heard of Thunderbird. I'll have to take a look at it. Thanks. I've been playing with Firefox (Mozilla). It seems slow to me. Is this something others here have experienced, or is it just my machine? __________________ T1 Internet Services - Direct U Telecom Directory Last edited by Terry; 03-14-2004 at 08:22 PM.

03-16-2004, 03:29 AM	#25 (permalink)
Anthony NamePros Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 9,132	In case anyone was wondering, IE is the favorite browser when it comes to people visiting NP: MSIE: 82.04 % (5,943,444) Netscape: 11.35 % (822,576) Opera: 0.444 % (32,194) Konqueror: 0 % (0) Lynx: 0.001 % (114) Other: 1.456 % (105,524)

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