Why Are PHP Based Sites Loading S-L-O-W-L-Y For Me? Help !

wordplay · 03-09-2004, 07:57 PM

I've got Road Runner cable... HTML based sites come right up, PHP sites used to load fairly fast... but now any PHP based site I visit (such as this site) take around a minute per page to load!

Any ideas why would be very appreciated!

Elefekt · 03-09-2004, 08:13 PM

http://evirant.com check that site..its php based if it loads slow then i dont know whats up...

Maybe some kind of spyware?

wordplay · 03-09-2004, 08:24 PM

Arggg... eVirant took 43 seconds to load

I do a spyware sweep every couple of days or so... this problem has been going on for over a month... so unless the software isn't finding it, I don't think it's a spyware issue.

Thanks for answering, though.

Crusader · 03-09-2004, 08:42 PM

Do you scan your system daily for viruses?

wordplay · 03-09-2004, 08:52 PM

Yes, Crusader, I do (should have mentioned that, too).

Crusader · 03-09-2004, 08:54 PM

very strange...

g0ldy · 03-09-2004, 08:59 PM

might be a worm or soemthing?

Elefekt · 03-09-2004, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wordplay
Arggg... eVirant took 43 seconds to load

I do a spyware sweep every couple of days or so... this problem has been going on for over a month... so unless the software isn't finding it, I don't think it's a spyware issue.

Thanks for answering, though.

43 seconds to load!?!?!! wow!
there is really something wrong with the php or maybe its the mysql not sure but 43 seconds is way too long even for dialup!!

wordplay · 03-09-2004, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elefekt
43 seconds to load!?!?!! wow!
there is really something wrong with the php or maybe its the mysql not sure but 43 seconds is way too long even for dialup!!

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/the-break-room/23072-why-php-based-sites-loading-s.html
No, it's not something wrong with the PHP... ALL PHP sites I go to are the same: s l o w .

identity_00 · 03-09-2004, 10:00 PM

both sites are quick to me. - I have dsl

rambo6376 · 03-09-2004, 10:34 PM

That is strange indeed. I mean, your browser is only being sent HTML code by the site's server after it is already parsed...?

Elefekt · 03-09-2004, 10:39 PM

Yea thats the strange part...php is serverside how does that make it slow unless the server is slow? since you say all php sites than something is really wrong ???

wordplay · 03-09-2004, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rambo6376
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=23072
That is strange indeed. I mean, your browser is only being sent HTML code by the site's server after it is already parsed...?

Sorry, not clear on your question.

The only time I mentioned HTML is to state that all HTML based pages load fine for me... in seconds.

Elefekt · 03-09-2004, 11:13 PM

Have you tried deleting your temp files/cookies and stuff?

I dont know if it will help but its worth a shot..

rabid_nerd · 03-09-2004, 11:56 PM

what about cgi, cfm, non-PHP dynamic pages?

Script pages are frequently marked to never be cached by your browser since they are dynamic, whereas html pages are more often cached by browsers and proxy servers since they are typically static. (that is, ending in ".html/.htm" despite every webpage is HTML whatever the extension)

If EMPTYING your cache actually SLOWS things down, then the speed behind the html pages was actually artificial and your connection is actually still going slow.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=23072

evirant.com loaded in 5 seconds from click to finish and I have cable - it's not the internet or PHP causing the problem - It's somewhere between RR and your computer..

That said, there is a build of Mozilla that is a REAL pain in the butt because it replaces periods in browser variables with © signs... This could theoretically cause a conflict. Trying another browser in any case might help.

RJ · 03-10-2004, 12:04 AM

What browser are you using? It wouldn't be Netscape by chance?

Anthony · 03-10-2004, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wordplay
Sorry, not clear on your question.

The only time I mentioned HTML is to state that all HTML based pages load fine for me... in seconds.

He just meant that the PHP code never "sees" the browser because it is all converted into HTML on the server side.

wordplay · 03-10-2004, 06:52 AM

Elekfect: Yes, I had tried dumping cache, etc. No effect.

rabid_nerd: Thanks for the info. I tried Opera on the PHP pages awhile back, still super slow. Emptying my cache does not slow things down.

RJ: Using IE 6

Anthony: Thanks for the clarification.

Thanks to all of you guys for pitching in.

RJ · 03-10-2004, 01:34 PM

Could there be a windows file association with .php files that would cause the slowdown?

For instance if I come across a .pdf file on the web, my browser knows to open it with Adobe Acrobat. Maybe there's something telling your computer or browser to handle .php files in a special way.

Could be worth a quick check

Windows Explorer -> Tools -> Folder Options -> File Types
Look for the PHP extension

wordplay · 03-11-2004, 09:03 PM

I had high hopes for your suggestion, RJ. I did as you suggested, and actually found two PHP lisitngs. I deleted them, but it had no effect. Thanks a lot for trying, anyway.

Just clocked the loading of DNForum at a blazing 51 seconds

Anthony · 03-12-2004, 12:20 AM

Are you still having this problem?!? Why not try connecting to the sites on a different computer at your house to see if its your ISP that has the problem. Can you borrow someone's laptop or something?

Pablo · 03-12-2004, 12:28 AM

Do you have anything like a P2P application open, something such as kazaa, edonkey, emule or others. FTP uploading somthing, if you dont then maybe your ISP is slow. Also consider the time you go on the net, is it peak time with school holdays etc..

Tekim · 03-12-2004, 07:29 PM

It may have to do with IE sending cookie information correctly. PHP based sites generally use cookies. If IE is not sending the cookies fast enough or properly, it will slow down the php on the server. I suggest that you either reinstall IE reinstall windows. Yes I know that reinstalling windows does mean you have to back everything up, but this almost always solves any problems you may have.

You could also try disabling cookies first, just to see if it will load faster if IE doesn't try sending cookie information.

wordplay · 03-14-2004, 03:14 PM

I tried the cookie solution, but no effect. I will likely have to reload Windows soon, per your suggestion. I guess I'll just have to live with this until then. Thanks, Tekim, for your suggestions.

adam_uk · 03-15-2004, 12:47 AM

by the time you spent trying to resolve windows you coulda backed up your data and re installed windows

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wordplay NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 850	Arggg... eVirant took 43 seconds to load I do a spyware sweep every couple of days or so... this problem has been going on for over a month... so unless the software isn't finding it, I don't think it's a spyware issue. Thanks for answering, though.

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wordplay NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 850	Yes, Crusader, I do (should have mentioned that, too).

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identity_00 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,212	both sites are quick to me. - I have dsl

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Elefekt Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 3,529	Yea thats the strange part...php is serverside how does that make it slow unless the server is slow? since you say all php sites than something is really wrong ??? __________________ Standards Voice - Coming soon...

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wordplay NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 850	Elekfect: Yes, I had tried dumping cache, etc. No effect. rabid_nerd: Thanks for the info. I tried Opera on the PHP pages awhile back, still super slow. Emptying my cache does not slow things down. RJ: Using IE 6 Anthony: Thanks for the clarification. Thanks to all of you guys for pitching in.

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RJ NamePros Webmaster Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,930 Follow @DomainBuyer	Could there be a windows file association with .php files that would cause the slowdown? For instance if I come across a .pdf file on the web, my browser knows to open it with Adobe Acrobat. Maybe there's something telling your computer or browser to handle .php files in a special way. Could be worth a quick check Windows Explorer -> Tools -> Folder Options -> File Types Look for the PHP extension __________________ @DomainBuyer facebook

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wordplay NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 850	I had high hopes for your suggestion, RJ. I did as you suggested, and actually found two PHP lisitngs. I deleted them, but it had no effect. Thanks a lot for trying, anyway. Just clocked the loading of DNForum at a blazing 51 seconds

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Anthony NamePros Expert Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 9,134	Are you still having this problem?!? Why not try connecting to the sites on a different computer at your house to see if its your ISP that has the problem. Can you borrow someone's laptop or something?

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Pablo NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 44	Do you have anything like a P2P application open, something such as kazaa, edonkey, emule or others. FTP uploading somthing, if you dont then maybe your ISP is slow. Also consider the time you go on the net, is it peak time with school holdays etc.. __________________ Click Link for Java IRC PHP-Live IRC: pgardner.net:6667, Channel: #php.

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Tekim NamePros Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 59	It may have to do with IE sending cookie information correctly. PHP based sites generally use cookies. If IE is not sending the cookies fast enough or properly, it will slow down the php on the server. I suggest that you either reinstall IE reinstall windows. Yes I know that reinstalling windows does mean you have to back everything up, but this almost always solves any problems you may have. You could also try disabling cookies first, just to see if it will load faster if IE doesn't try sending cookie information.

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wordplay NamePros Regular Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 850	I tried the cookie solution, but no effect. I will likely have to reload Windows soon, per your suggestion. I guess I'll just have to live with this until then. Thanks, Tekim, for your suggestions.

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