What is acceptable definition of a short domain?

stub · 09-16-2010, 03:26 PM

What is acceptable definition of a short domain?

1,2,3,4,6,6,7,8,9,10 chars?

RazorNF · 09-16-2010, 04:45 PM

It really depends on what you're going to use it for.

For example if you want to create a url-shortening service, then LLL.LL or LL.LL seems to be the standard now in the twitter era.

hawkeye · 09-16-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by stub

What is acceptable definition of a short domain?

1,2,3,4,6,6,7,8,9,10 chars?

To Whom?? Don't forget, with opinions, everyone has one! ...or more!!

'Any' domain that coveys it's point in/with the smallest amount of characters, would seem most logical.

MicroGuy · 09-16-2010, 05:21 PM

To me, a short domain is anything under 6 characters, with 6 to 10 being medium, 11 to 14 medium-long, and anything over 14 being unacceptably long.

stub · 09-16-2010, 05:35 PM

I want to use the term short to post domains for sale to end users. What would an end user consider to be a short domain? I don't mind a little bit of poetic license, as with most things marketing related.

***johname*** · 09-16-2010, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by stub

I want to use the term short to post domains for sale to end users. What would an end user consider to be a short domain? I don't mind a little bit of poetic license, as with most things marketing related.

Say to the end enduser that name is short for what it contains:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/677644-what-is-acceptable-definition-short-domain.html

A1plumber.com is short for containing "plumber"

GoQuickly · 09-16-2010, 05:56 PM

I go by syllables, minus the case of 4 letters.

stub · 09-16-2010, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by GoQuickly

I go by syllables, minus the case of 4 letters.

Sorry. I don't get what you mean. Could you elaborate?
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=677644

How about an example? HoverBoat.com? Could that be considered short, to an end user?

***johname*** · 09-16-2010, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by stub

HoverBoat.com? Could that be considered short, to an end user?

Yes if he owns a hover boat!

stub · 09-16-2010, 06:53 PM

Or wants one

So two syllable domains of up to 9 characters could be considered short? Opinions? How about two syllable 10 characters? Remember, I'm talking about end users, and I don't mind pushing the envelope, a little bit

So I'm thinking, either Short Domains - Up to 10 chars or Short Domains - Less than 10 chars?

ToryC103 · 09-16-2010, 07:20 PM

Just as the folks here, everyone is different. The same applies to your clients.

In sales, we learn that the client is going to tell you everything you need to know if you ask the right questions. Try asking the customer what their definition of short is.

stub · 09-16-2010, 08:00 PM

If I haven't made it clear. This is for a domain sales wesite, with short in the url and selling a whole gamut of domain names. Short is the word that binds all these domains together.

GoQuickly · 09-16-2010, 08:57 PM

I was generally saying 4 letter domains you usually have to say the four different letters out for the end user to understand what to type in.

A short domain to me would be 3-4 syllables doghouses.com (3) doghouse.com(2) newyorkrestaurant.com(4... depending on where in new york you are from

)

I would try to stay under 2-3 short, 4 mid, 5 norm-long, 6 go back and search again.

stub · 09-16-2010, 09:22 PM

Thanks for the clarification. I would say 98% of my domains up to 10 chars are 2 syllable domains. None would be 4 syllables.

GoQuickly · 09-16-2010, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by stub

Thanks for the clarification. I would say 98% of my domains up to 10 chars are 2 syllable domains. None would be 4 syllables.

All the ones in your signature are over 2

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=677644

minus freewho.com

stub · 09-16-2010, 09:59 PM

Yeah, but they're not domains I'm selling

Only two of them could be considered short in any case (I'm beginning to get fixated on 10 being the number). Oh, and that's freewho.org

Of course the domains run the whole gamut, but HoverBoat.com would be about typical.

defaultuser · 09-16-2010, 10:14 PM

Quote:

What is acceptable definition of a short domain?

Character Challenged is probably the PC term.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=677644

I think 1-4 letters is pure short.
Then I would work in terms of words.
1 word is short.
2 words is medium.

No domain should violate the MG 14 character rule (except in .de)

***promo*** · 09-16-2010, 10:18 PM

For me short means few characters.. The syllable counting thing, well dont give that much credit

Newyourkrestaurant.com will never, ever be a short domain. Its 18 characters for deities sake!

EDIT
You can use what NP thinks are short domains as benchmark.. This forum does not have anything over 5 characters and this is short domain discussion. But I guess you are more looking for a creative licence

GoQuickly · 09-16-2010, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by promo

For me short means few characters.. The syllable counting thing, well dont give that much credit

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=677644

Newyourkrestaurant.com will never, ever be a short domain. Its 18 characters for deities sake!

EDIT
You can use what NP thinks are short domains as benchmark.. This forum does not have anything over 5 characters and this is short domain discussion. But I guess you are more looking for a creative licence

Understandable, but in the case of GEO there is not much you can do. I received some high offers on a domain (Richmond Virginia Lawyer) dot com

It's not short, but for the keyword value of it all it's prime.

Now I just need to get it listed in the search engine to make sure it's not a banned one

DogHouse isn't considered to be short, but there is no other variation that would work, besides dog+home and that isn't as marketable. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the term "short" is all in the eye of the buyer.

***promo*** · 09-16-2010, 11:50 PM

Well what I am saying is that not every product can have a short domain. You can only stretch the concept so far. Same goes for Geos. You can always say that Value/shortness/weight is in the eye of the beholder. But the truth is we all know when somebody is fat.. Or when a domain is short

But why should they be short, that is one type of names and generic and geos another type. There can be overlaps, but not necessarily.

cache · 09-17-2010, 12:42 AM

"short" implies it is relative to human. The input buffer for human is small, if human on average can only easily remember a 5 random letters, then 5 is your answer.

stub · 09-17-2010, 05:35 AM

So if they think that a two word/syllable of 10 characters is sort, then that's short? Right? this is a proposition only. Not a statement of fact.

---------- Post added at 08:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:12 PM ----------

Originally Posted by defaultuser

Character Challenged is probably the PC term.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=677644

I think 1-4 letters is pure short.
Then I would work in terms of words.
1 word is short.
2 words is medium.

No domain should violate the MG 14 character rule (except in .de)

I don't know what the MG14 rule is. So 2 words is medium, as long as it's under what? 20 chars? Personally I think that two words/syllables of ten characters, two words either 5/5 or 6/4:4/6, is short (to an end user). Remember, that I don't mind pushing the envelope a bit, in terms of definition.

Maybe I'm completely out of whack, and I have no problem in you telling me so. but I don't really have a problem,as a marketing ploy, which describes a short domain as two words/syllable, as short rather than medium.

stub · 09-18-2010, 01:55 AM

Nobody posted any more in this thread since it got transferred. I'd appreciate if it could be transferred back.

***promo*** · 09-18-2010, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by stub

Nobody posted any more in this thread since it got transferred. I'd appreciate if it could be transferred back.

What does that mean? Its been in short domain discussion since you posted?

stub · 09-19-2010, 03:38 AM

Nope. It was in the general Section first and somebody transferred it. And still another day without any more posts, with unfinished conversations.

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stub NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,318	Or wants one So two syllable domains of up to 9 characters could be considered short? Opinions? How about two syllable 10 characters? Remember, I'm talking about end users, and I don't mind pushing the envelope, a little bit So I'm thinking, either Short Domains - Up to 10 chars or Short Domains - Less than 10 chars? __________________ COMDots - DNDots - StubDomains - WebmasterUnlimited - DNSPortfolio Last edited by stub; 09-16-2010 at 07:12 PM.

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GoQuickly NamePros Regular Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Arizona Posts: 302	I was generally saying 4 letter domains you usually have to say the four different letters out for the end user to understand what to type in. A short domain to me would be 3-4 syllables doghouses.com (3) doghouse.com(2) newyorkrestaurant.com(4... depending on where in new york you are from ) I would try to stay under 2-3 short, 4 mid, 5 norm-long, 6 go back and search again. __________________ Trial web hosting >> Free 7 days of Hosting << Cheap hosting renewals! Auto Title Loans Phoenix - Ohio Masonry - Custom Choppers

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stub NamePros Expert Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,318	Yeah, but they're not domains I'm selling Only two of them could be considered short in any case (I'm beginning to get fixated on 10 being the number). Oh, and that's freewho.org Of course the domains run the whole gamut, but HoverBoat.com would be about typical. __________________ COMDots - DNDots - StubDomains - WebmasterUnlimited - DNSPortfolio Last edited by stub; 09-16-2010 at 10:13 PM.

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*promo* Business Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: DK Posts: 1,010	Well what I am saying is that not every product can have a short domain. You can only stretch the concept so far. Same goes for Geos. You can always say that Value/shortness/weight is in the eye of the beholder. But the truth is we all know when somebody is fat.. Or when a domain is short But why should they be short, that is one type of names and generic and geos another type. There can be overlaps, but not necessarily.

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