When do you think LLLL.COM domains will be 1,000 dollar and above???

grigio · 05-21-2009, 10:16 PM

When do you think that LLLL.com will be worth over 1,000 dollar??

owntype · 05-21-2009, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by grigio

When do you think that LLLL.com will be worth over 1,000 dollar??

The minimum resell price worths 1k?
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Never.

Steven · 05-21-2009, 10:32 PM

Never imho

Fka200 · 05-21-2009, 10:33 PM

Never

sunilm87 · 05-21-2009, 10:34 PM

wait for you son's son to start selling domains.. u can expect it then

kaposzta · 05-21-2009, 10:35 PM

The CVCV.com domains are already worth over $1000

But I don't think that combinations like YQHX would have too much value in the future.

Nem0 · 05-21-2009, 10:58 PM

I'll take a stab at year, ohhh.... 2026.

Put your predictions down and be sure to revisit this thread.

rkbdomain · 05-21-2009, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by grigio

When do you think that LLLL.com will be worth over 1,000 dollar??

In 1 year, when massive inflation we are due finally hits

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Domainace · 05-21-2009, 11:19 PM

It's entirely possible within a decade.
I wouldn't bet my retirement on it, but I wouldn't be surprised either.

sunilm87 · 05-21-2009, 11:52 PM

now if you have domains like deed.com or seed.com or rock.com, you can expect more than 1k..
for wzuq.com hope it sells for 10$..
never on earth wil anyone buy wzuq type stupid names for 1000$.. but nothing can be predicted as of..in time to come, even ppl (incl me :-) )might run crazy after these domain like we r now after some 3 characters

Semtex · 05-22-2009, 01:53 AM

When you have names like QIYE.com that sell for $20,300, anything is possible. It will be 20+ years before the minimum is $1,000.

sidekick_33 · 05-22-2009, 05:30 AM

This seems to be an impossible question to answer, and if you were able to answer it successfully, you'd be a millionaire!

If you say never, then perhaps you fail to remember that at the start of the internet all domains were under $1000. (at least i think so...)

If you say 10-20+ years, you have decided that the internet will remain the way it is right now. Perhaps down the road, there will be a new technology that totally changes everything!

So to be honest, I have no clue, just like everyone else. I would really like the answer to be tomorrow though!

regan · 05-22-2009, 06:00 AM

I say 3-5 years, or maybe faster depends on author!

*HcDomains* · 05-22-2009, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by FantasyCombine

When you have names like QIYE.com that sell for $20,300, anything is possible. It will be 20+ years before the minimum is $1,000.

QIYE is the Chinese Pinyin for "Enterprise"

DomainMagnate · 05-23-2009, 04:21 AM

when the world population crosses 140 billion and Internet Penetration levels grow 5 times... so not soon

-REECE- · 05-23-2009, 04:28 AM

Hmm.. First order of business is to close down the Fed and use all the savings to increase internet penetration 5 times... Oh, and then we'll have to make sure people start having a dozen kids each - minimum!

Originally Posted by DomainMagnate

when the world population crosses 140 billion and Internet Penetration levels grow 5 times... so not soon

GreenGambler · 05-25-2009, 11:28 AM

It could happen, not soon, but in 10+ years.. I can see it, just depends on how the world economies develop, internet penetration, population and the use of the internet in general. I'm keeping my fingers crossed..

DnDot.com · 05-25-2009, 11:40 AM

Its hard to say but it could be pretty soon if we get hit by high inflation.

Otherwise I think it will take at least 7-15 years maybe more. The good quality LLLL.coms have already reached $1000+ so it's not something that we will never see happen or we should be suprised about.

It also depends on the number of new investors enter the market, if some strong investors or companies with a lot of cash enter then we could see them reach $1000 pretty soon. Just simple supply and demand.

The other thing is, who knows what will happen to the internet in 15 years?? Will it still be as it is today?

accent · 05-25-2009, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by GreenGambler

It could happen, not soon, but in 10+ years.. I can see it, just depends on how the world economies develop, internet penetration, population and the use of the internet in general. I'm keeping my fingers crossed..

Yeah, that was my thought. Then I started to do some math, based on assumptions that some of us were using around the buyout. At present there is a large number of LLLL.coms in "soft" hands - this doesn't mean that the owners don't work for a living, it means that they do not intend to hold for the long term. So there are a lot of domains either on the market or that could be pried lose with a small price rise. This obscures the long term value of the domains.

Back in the day, our (absent but fondly remembered) friend Italian Dragon, myself, and others were speculating that the natural value or "target price" (underlying price after the dust settles) of LLLL.coms should be about 1/26 the value of a comparable LLL.com (there are 26 times as many LLLLs). If we use that metric with a minimum price today for LLLs of $3,500 we get a target for LLLL.coms of $135.

I doubt many would disagree that the internet, and thus the demand for domains, is rising. The mobile internet is probably about to explode in the same way that the PC internet did, and television did before that. Short domains are well suited to small keyboards. So I assumed a 20% per year growth in internet usage.

At 20% per year it took a little over eleven years to reach $1000 from $135, with the magic of compounded returns!

A 10% growth rate is much less than we are having in this recession (remember we are talking about internet use, not domain prices directly) 10% would take something like three times longer (not going to do that math), and I would not try to guess what the internet will look like that far out.
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Snoop is going to hate this. I will place the caveats that there are many optimistic assumptions in this guesstimate, including the recovery and health of the world economy. Renewal fees have to be factored in. And I certainly would not recommend that anyone spend money without doing a whole lot more research. But I do not think these assumptions are unreasonable, and that is where Snoop and I disagree. But at least I am consistent.
--- another caveat - I have a bunch of LLLL.coms, although few, if any, that I would consider minimum value.

Increase in the number of websites on the internet:
2004 : 12.1%
2005 : 17.1%
2006 : 31.6%
2007 : 48.7%
2008 : 29.9%
source: techcrunchies.com/how-fast-is-internet-growing/

Tim Schoon · 05-25-2009, 01:07 PM

hmmhm maybe in ten years.. never know

sdsinc · 05-25-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by accentnepal

Back in the day, our (absent but fondly remembered) friend Italian Dragon, myself, and others were speculating that the natural value or "target price" (underlying price after the dust settles) of LLLL.coms should be about 1/26 the value of a comparable LLL.com (there are 26 times as many LLLLs). If we use that metric with a minimum price today for LLLs of $3,500 we get a target for LLLL.coms of $135.

The flaw in that logic is using the LLL as a benchmark. They just cannot be compared.
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The LL & LLL are popular as acronyms. For any 'decent' LLL.com there are tens if not hundreds or thousands of companies worldwide, that share the same acronym. You have a number of potential end users (buyers). That is what makes these names so liquid among resellers.

On the other hand LLLL are much less attractive for that purpose. The brandables like good CVCV will always be worth something but let's face it - there is virtually no market for mediocre LLLL.com such as QHKX.com, unless you find that Chinese end user maybe - easier said than done IMO

I think that most of the LLLL.com are barely worth more than $$ at this point and don't even bother with .net .org or any 'lesser' extension. Scarcity alone does not make domains more valuable.

-REECE- · 05-25-2009, 01:27 PM

I was making jokes about the Chinese end users myself until not too long ago, however there are some out there and when the economy gets back on it's feet, I think we'll continue to see more Chinese end users out there for what us North American / European folk see as bad letter combinations.

At least about 30-40% of LLL's have very few meaningful acronyms -- they have value not necessarily for their rarity but because of what they've come to mean to domainers in the domain name world. I would say LLLL.coms - at the very least, quad premium LLLL.coms, are at least moving along that path. Just like a terrible LLL.com sells for half a good one while having realistically 1/100th the end user potential, quad premium LLLL.coms sell at significant premiums to regular LLLL.coms, in many cases there not really being much in the way of a reason for it, other than the fact that it falls into that "collectible" category.

Could ordinary LLLL.coms someday be valued in such a way? I would say they temporarily were in Jan-Feb 2008 where people were buying LLLL.coms because they were LLLL.coms rather than because of any normal indicators of value (traffic, revenue, end user / development potential, etc)

Originally Posted by sdsinc

The flaw in that logic is using the LLL as a benchmark. They just cannot be compared.
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The LL & LLL are popular as acronyms. For any 'decent' LLL.com there are tens if not hundreds or thousands of companies worldwide, that share the same acronym. You have a number of potential end users (buyers). That is what makes these names so liquid among resellers.

On the other hand LLLL are much less attractive for that purpose. The brandables like good CVCV will always be worth something but let's face it - there is virtually no market for mediocre LLLL.com such as QHKX.com, unless you find that Chinese end user maybe - easier said than done IMO

I think that most of the LLLL.com are barely worth more than $$ at this point and don't even bother with .net .org or any 'lesser' extension. Scarcity alone does not make domains more valuable.

james0306 · 07-08-2009, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by FantasyCombine

When you have names like QIYE.com that sell for $20,300, anything is possible. It will be 20+ years before the minimum is $1,000.

QiYe.com means "Enterprise" in China, the prise is still quite cheap compared to its potential application

vanbollu · 07-08-2009, 07:08 PM

Some LLLL.com domain wouldn't be above $1000 now or later.

kleszcz · 07-09-2009, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by L2

Sobering thought but....

I would be willing to bet that in 10/15 years there will not be any extensions at all (as we now know them), and there will be an entirely different way the Internet is navigated by then. Whatever people own when the changes come will somehow work into the new systems, but be rest assured there's a whole new grid process being developed as we speak.
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Remember Compuserve?

The best thing to do is not be greedy, take your profits when you can and move on and follow the technology. Falling in love with something that will become obsolete could be your worst nightmare and give you a heart attack when you look back at what you coulda' or shoulda' done.

The one thing that never changes about technology is it's always changing.

Roll with the changes.

JMO

L2

Compuserve, the good old days. I can see things have changed a lot. Im not sure about changes but I was completely falling in love with LLLL.com. I still like it though.

L2, rep'ed to you.

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05-21-2009, 11:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Domainace Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Japan Posts: 1,879	It's entirely possible within a decade. I wouldn't bet my retirement on it, but I wouldn't be surprised either. Last edited by Domainace; 05-22-2009 at 12:27 AM.

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sunilm87 NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chennai.. I love this place like anything Posts: 157	now if you have domains like deed.com or seed.com or rock.com, you can expect more than 1k.. for wzuq.com hope it sells for 10$.. never on earth wil anyone buy wzuq type stupid names for 1000$.. but nothing can be predicted as of..in time to come, even ppl (incl me :-) )might run crazy after these domain like we r now after some 3 characters __________________ My Virtual World

05-22-2009, 01:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
Semtex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,982	When you have names like QIYE.com that sell for $20,300, anything is possible. It will be 20+ years before the minimum is $1,000.

05-22-2009, 05:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
sidekick_33 NamePros Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 550	This seems to be an impossible question to answer, and if you were able to answer it successfully, you'd be a millionaire! If you say never, then perhaps you fail to remember that at the start of the internet all domains were under $1000. (at least i think so...) If you say 10-20+ years, you have decided that the internet will remain the way it is right now. Perhaps down the road, there will be a new technology that totally changes everything! So to be honest, I have no clue, just like everyone else. I would really like the answer to be tomorrow though!

05-22-2009, 06:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
regan NamePros Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42	I say 3-5 years, or maybe faster depends on author!

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DomainMagnate Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,576	when the world population crosses 140 billion and Internet Penetration levels grow 5 times... so not soon __________________ Domain Magnate

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GreenGambler Visit -- NameManor.com Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Missouri--USA Posts: 3,458 Follow @ArtlicoiusArt	It could happen, not soon, but in 10+ years.. I can see it, just depends on how the world economies develop, internet penetration, population and the use of the internet in general. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.. __________________ Mewv.com is Currently for Sale Original Abstract Art Abstract Artwork For Sale

05-25-2009, 11:40 AM	#18 (permalink)
DnDot.com NamePros Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: BuyShortDomains.com Posts: 417	Its hard to say but it could be pretty soon if we get hit by high inflation. Otherwise I think it will take at least 7-15 years maybe more. The good quality LLLL.coms have already reached $1000+ so it's not something that we will never see happen or we should be suprised about. It also depends on the number of new investors enter the market, if some strong investors or companies with a lot of cash enter then we could see them reach $1000 pretty soon. Just simple supply and demand. The other thing is, who knows what will happen to the internet in 15 years?? Will it still be as it is today? __________________ *Short Domains* Last edited by DnDot.com; 05-25-2009 at 11:44 AM.

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Tim Schoon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,180	hmmhm maybe in ten years.. never know __________________ PEJ.com - high-end domain name brokerage & portfolio management

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vanbollu Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 76	Some LLLL.com domain wouldn't be above $1000 now or later.

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